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Post by Caris on Oct 13, 2017 14:38:24 GMT -5
Ha! That's funny! I know for sure she is right on the money. I really believe the men and women on this forum are more emotionally intelligent and giving than the average person out there. Partly because of the pain we have endured but it's a catch 22 - we are giving so we sacrificed ourselves and endured the pain. We compromised too much of ourselves away. It's a tough lesson to learn but better late than never. I'm so grateful to have found ILIASM forum. That is what I keep trying to get across to other refused spouses.Β After staying in a sexless marriage for so long, we develop characteristics that make us extremely attractive to the opposite sex. We do? Well, whatever those characteristics are, they are not attracting the opposite sex to me. I don't even receive messages anymore on OKC.
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Post by TheGreatContender -aka Daddeeo on Oct 13, 2017 14:57:45 GMT -5
Im in tears...no words. πππππ I thought I was crude and rude. The last crude message I got a man wrote "I want you to sit on my face". That's all he said, no hello - you are beautiful - and I just couldn't help myself so I responded- I said,"oh yeah? Are you going to eat your way to my heart?"
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Post by WindSister on Oct 13, 2017 15:44:31 GMT -5
Phew. A million comments so I am late the game. Forgive me if I repeat what has been said. There is no script you have to follow, this is your life and you are a wise woman - follow your heart/head. Maybe this is how your story unfolds and who is anyone to say anything about it. As long as we aren't letting fear drive our major decisions (fear of loneliness, for example). I don't think that is what you are doing. Worth repeating: you are a smart woman. I wish you the best on your journey, no matter what. He's not with a new woman, right? Was he dating? I just ask because if I can have an opinion or express "judgment" it would be under that -- that you didn't see him with someone new and got jealous and thought you'd give it another try. I don't see you doing that, though. I did that with my ex when broke up the first time before we got married - I think I let fear rule me and that got me into a decade of sexlessness.
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Post by northstarmom on Oct 13, 2017 16:15:52 GMT -5
"We do? Well, whatever those characteristics are, they are not attracting the opposite sex to me. I don't even receive messages anymore on OKC."
I doubt that those 2 men who started conversations with you were just killing idle time. Something about you appealed to them. People don't start conversations with strangers who seem hideous looking, bad tempered, etc. it may be that you didn't find those men interesting or appealing, which is your right to be discerning. But they liked something about you.
It might be helpful to others to mention where you were when the men approached you. The gym? library? Grocery store? You haven't indicated he scared you, so that kind of location might be a good place for others here to frequent if they are looking to meet people of the opposite gender.
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Post by hopingforachange on Oct 13, 2017 16:20:53 GMT -5
Im in tears...no words. πππππ I thought I was crude and rude. The last crude message I got a man wrote "I want you to sit on my face". That's all he said, no hello - you are beautiful - and I just couldn't help myself so I responded- I said,"oh yeah? Are you going to eat your way to my heart?" @bbalgirl Can I give it a try?
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Post by bballgirl on Oct 13, 2017 16:42:55 GMT -5
Phew. A million comments so I am late the game. Forgive me if I repeat what has been said. There is no script you have to follow, this is your life and you are a wise woman - follow your heart/head. Maybe this is how your story unfolds and who is anyone to say anything about it. As long as we aren't letting fear drive our major decisions (fear of loneliness, for example). I don't think that is what you are doing. Worth repeating: you are a smart woman. I wish you the best on your journey, no matter what. He's not with a new woman, right? Was he dating? I just ask because if I can have an opinion or express "judgment" it would be under that -- that you didn't see him with someone new and got jealous and thought you'd give it another try. I don't see you doing that, though. I did that with my ex when broke up the first time before we got married - I think I let fear rule me and that got me into a decade of sexlessness. Thank you for your thoughtful response. You really asked good questions to make me think. No this is not based on fear or any other thing. I just found that I wanted to only spend time with him. No I never saw him with another woman and he did not date anyone. You are a wise woman too. Hugs xoxo
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Post by bballgirl on Oct 13, 2017 16:43:22 GMT -5
Im in tears...no words. πππππ I thought I was crude and rude. The last crude message I got a man wrote "I want you to sit on my face". That's all he said, no hello - you are beautiful - and I just couldn't help myself so I responded- I said,"oh yeah? Are you going to eat your way to my heart?"Β @bbalgirl Can I give it a try? Absolutely honey! Lol
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Post by Caris on Oct 13, 2017 17:35:59 GMT -5
"We do? Well, whatever those characteristics are, they are not attracting the opposite sex to me. I don't even receive messages anymore on OKC." I doubt that those 2 men who started conversations with you were just killing idle time. Something about you appealed to them. People don't start conversations with strangers who seem hideous looking, bad tempered, etc. it may be that you didn't find those men interesting or appealing, which is your right to be discerning. But they liked something about you. It might be helpful to others to mention where you were when the men approached you. The gym? library? Grocery store? You haven't indicated he scared you, so that kind of location might be a good place for others here to frequent if they are looking to meet people of the opposite gender. I've been visiting that location for a little more than two-years, and those are the only two men I've interacted with in all that time, so it's not a place one normally meets others to chat with, except when I ask someone about their dog, (usually older women), and most don't take their dogs. I go to the lake several times a week. It's beautiful. Sometimes, I take my morning coffee, sometimes my lunch, or just go and sit listening to the waves hitting the shore, and watch the wildlife, which fascinates me. Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature. I'd still like to know what characteristics flashjohn was talking about.
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Post by hopingforachange on Oct 13, 2017 18:39:53 GMT -5
"We do? Well, whatever those characteristics are, they are not attracting the opposite sex to me. I don't even receive messages anymore on OKC." I doubt that those 2 men who started conversations with you were just killing idle time. Something about you appealed to them. People don't start conversations with strangers who seem hideous looking, bad tempered, etc. it may be that you didn't find those men interesting or appealing, which is your right to be discerning. But they liked something about you. It might be helpful to others to mention where you were when the men approached you. The gym? library? Grocery store? You haven't indicated he scared you, so that kind of location might be a good place for others here to frequent if they are looking to meet people of the opposite gender. I've been visiting that location for a little more than two-years, and those are the only two men I've interacted with in all that time, so it's not a place one normally meets others to chat with, except when I ask someone about their dog, (usually older women), and most don't take their dogs. I go to the lake several times a week. It's beautiful. Sometimes, I take my morning coffee, sometimes my lunch, or just go and sit listening to the waves hitting the shore, and watch the wildlife, which fascinates me. Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature. I'd still like to know what characteristics flashjohn was talking about. It sounds like a place to go to find someone that enjoys nature too.
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Post by Caris on Oct 13, 2017 19:04:43 GMT -5
I've been visiting that location for a little more than two-years, and those are the only two men I've interacted with in all that time, so it's not a place one normally meets others to chat with, except when I ask someone about their dog, (usually older women), and most don't take their dogs. I go to the lake several times a week. It's beautiful. Sometimes, I take my morning coffee, sometimes my lunch, or just go and sit listening to the waves hitting the shore, and watch the wildlife, which fascinates me. Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature. I'd still like to know what characteristics flashjohn was talking about. It sounds like a place to go to find someone that enjoys nature too. That's true, but it's not a singles hang out. It's mainly couples, families, and groups of people. I see people of all ages, and some people are alone, jogging, bicycling, sailing, etc, but as I said the prospects of meeting a man in my age range, who is not only single, but is also compatible is a very long shot indeed. I wouldn't place a bet on it. Two men in more than two years, and they were recent. I don't even know if one was married or not. One did say he was divorced, but like I said, it's just chance that I met them, and neither one asked me out. I have as much chance of finding a date in my own backyard as I do at the lake. I can't even get a date on a dating site, so I am curious to know what flashjohn means by characteristics that attract the opposite sex.
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Post by greatcoastal on Oct 13, 2017 19:33:29 GMT -5
Phew. A million comments so I am late the game. Forgive me if I repeat what has been said. There is no script you have to follow, this is your life and you are a wise woman - follow your heart/head. Maybe this is how your story unfolds and who is anyone to say anything about it. As long as we aren't letting fear drive our major decisions (fear of loneliness, for example). I don't think that is what you are doing. Worth repeating: you are a smart woman. I wish you the best on your journey, no matter what. He's not with a new woman, right? Was he dating? I just ask because if I can have an opinion or express "judgment" it would be under that -- that you didn't see him with someone new and got jealous and thought you'd give it another try. I don't see you doing that, though. I did that with my ex when broke up the first time before we got married - I think I let fear rule me and that got me into a decade of sexlessness. Thank you for your thoughtful response. You really asked good questions to make me think. No this is not based on fear or any other thing. I just found that I wanted to only spend time with him. No I never saw him with another woman and he did not date anyone. You are a wise woman too. Hugs xoxo Just to share a funny little story with you. The other day my daughter had her first softball game. My W. and I arrived at different times, different cars, and she could not stay until the end. I purposely brought my own folding chair and sat on the side of the opposing team so I could get the best view of my daughter playing shortstop. My W. sat in the bleachers on the highest seat. So we where far enough apart. One of the men standing there spoke with her for quite a while before the game started. My immediate thoughts where,"poor guy, I hope he figures out what he's dealing with!!" That and " he sure is in for a disappointment!". There was no jealousy, no envy, no spark.........nothing! Just a smirky grin on my face that it's over. I also look at my W. physical features, then look at the other women around, and don't regret my decision.
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Post by northstarmom on Oct 14, 2017 6:58:03 GMT -5
"Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature"
You are right. It doesn't sound like a pickup place. It does sound like a place where one might meet a nature lover and engage in nice conversation. Such conversation could be a nice part of one day or depending on the people involved could lead to a friendship or relationship that was romantic.
I think the best way to meet friends and potential dates is by doing things one enjoys just for the pure pleasure of doing those things. That's how I met most of my friends and it's how I met my post sm partner. I was just enjoying being me.
When I was young, I got involved in things to meet guys or to hang with a crowd. Now I do what I like whether or not my friends and guy are into those things. I'm happier and have a more interesting life.
I like to walk around a little lake in my town. I enjoy doing that by myself. It's my time for sweet solitude. Sometimes I run into friends and have brief conversations but I like doing those walks alone and am not seeking extended conversations. When I was single I wouldn't have been interested in talking to a strange man there even if he seemed nice.
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Post by JMX on Oct 14, 2017 20:31:37 GMT -5
I understand.Β I am asking because Kimmie got really weary of them as well.Β Lots of messages, and many of them were very crude right off the bat. I did not get a lot of crude messages but I got a fair amount of messages. Most I was not interested in the men but I responded to some and went out with some. The last crude message I got a man wrote "I want you to sit on my face". That's all he said, no hello - you are beautiful - and I just couldn't help myself so I responded- I said,"oh yeah? Are you going to eat your way to my heart?" Most people on dating apps I believe are just looking for a hookup it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Honestly, bballgirl - this made me giggle. We all know that a man has to eat his way to your heart! Ha! I sure love you. I know that you are making the right decision for yourself. You already know how you can reverse it if it careens off into a ditch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 10:31:11 GMT -5
"We do? Well, whatever those characteristics are, they are not attracting the opposite sex to me. I don't even receive messages anymore on OKC." I doubt that those 2 men who started conversations with you were just killing idle time. Something about you appealed to them. People don't start conversations with strangers who seem hideous looking, bad tempered, etc. it may be that you didn't find those men interesting or appealing, which is your right to be discerning. But they liked something about you. It might be helpful to others to mention where you were when the men approached you. The gym? library? Grocery store? You haven't indicated he scared you, so that kind of location might be a good place for others here to frequent if they are looking to meet people of the opposite gender. I've been visiting that location for a little more than two-years, and those are the only two men I've interacted with in all that time, so it's not a place one normally meets others to chat with, except when I ask someone about their dog, (usually older women), and most don't take their dogs. I go to the lake several times a week. It's beautiful. Sometimes, I take my morning coffee, sometimes my lunch, or just go and sit listening to the waves hitting the shore, and watch the wildlife, which fascinates me. Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature. I'd still like to know what characteristics flashjohn was talking about. Here is a thread where I discuss them. iliasm.org/thread/98/postAnd I do want to give you some advice. If you are unhappy with your appearance, your confidence or whatever you feel is lacking, please do something about it. I really do understand how you can feel this way. But I also know that negativity comes across to another person. Please get a makeover, start working out, take a speaking class. Do something to make you feel better about yourself. If you are overweight, get on an exercise/diet program & make some changes. In the past 4 months, I have lost 40 pounds on a weight loss drug called Contrave. I wish I had tried something like this a long time ago.
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Post by Caris on Oct 16, 2017 19:00:06 GMT -5
I've been visiting that location for a little more than two-years, and those are the only two men I've interacted with in all that time, so it's not a place one normally meets others to chat with, except when I ask someone about their dog, (usually older women), and most don't take their dogs. I go to the lake several times a week. It's beautiful. Sometimes, I take my morning coffee, sometimes my lunch, or just go and sit listening to the waves hitting the shore, and watch the wildlife, which fascinates me. Each of those men were there to enjoy the beauty of the place, and just happened to see me, and engage me in conversation. That was pure chance. It's not a place you'd go to find a date, but to enjoy nature. I'd still like to know what characteristics flashjohn was talking about. Here is a thread where I discuss them.Β iliasm.org/thread/98/postAnd I do want to give you some advice.Β If you are unhappy with your appearance, your confidence or whatever you feel is lacking, please do something about it.Β I really do understand how you can feel this way.Β But I also know that negativity comes across to another person.Β Β Please get a makeover, start working out, take a speaking class.Β Do something to make you feel better about yourself.Β If you are overweight, get on an exercise/diet program & make some changes.Β In the past 4 months, I have lost 40 pounds on a weight loss drug called Contrave.Β I wish I had tried something like this a long time ago.Β I'm not negative around people. In fact, I'm very friendly. I work out regularly for years now. You can't change ageing. Well, you can with plastic surgery, but I'm not going that route. I don't need a make-over, or a speaking class. I can hold an intelligent conversation with people. I'm not a shrinking violet or wallflower. Sometimes things are as they are, and we just have to accept it. We may not like it, but it is what it is. Congratulations on your weight loss.
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