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Post by choosinghappy on Jul 11, 2017 23:14:55 GMT -5
This is probably going to come across as glib, and/or simplistic Sister choosinghappy . Probably because it is. But none the less I believe it to be so. Who is most likely to do a better parenting job ? An unhappy parent. A happy parent. A parent in a dysfunctional environment. A parent in a neutral environment. A parent who needs to direct a lot of energy toward a dysfunctional spouse's issues. A parent who does not need to direct a lot of energy to a dysfunctional spouse's issues. Might be worth thinking on. Oh I've certainly thought on it and continue to do so. Thank you for the reminders. I do enjoy your clear and broken down replies. And though those things are certainly important I also have to consider other major factors if I were to choose to leave my marriage: I would need to go back to work full time and I'd need to hope I could find (and afford) good specialized care for my child. I would have financial concerns when I don't currently have any. I would be giving up fantastic medical insurance and may not be able to keep the same specialists we currently see, which could be devastating for my child's care. So while I agree a happy parent is a better parent I'm not sure that leaving would make me a happier parent. My hope is that it would make me a less sexually frustrated parent (and of course I'd hope to one day find a better relationship) but there's also no guarantee of that happening either, while the odds of my three above points happening are quite high, if not a given. My happiness is important and I know I deserve that but my main focus is and has to be: What is likely to be best for my child? Edited to add: It seems I've come to the determination that the only scenario I can see (hopefully) working would be to remain in my marriage and find an AP without my H knowing. I've come to realize that I'm secretly hoping the couples counseling will serve to make H finally understand how important sex is to me and since he can not and will not fulfill that need for me I *have* to fill the need elsewhere. I would like his approval to look outside the marriage. I don't know if I'll get that. But the reality is I have needs and if I have to sneak around to get them filled then that might just be what I have to do.
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Post by baza on Jul 11, 2017 23:37:32 GMT -5
I reckon I could mount reasonable counter arguements to the *roadblock issues* you see Sister choosinghappy , in partic the financial ones, but this isn't the time or place for that. Rather, I think this is a time to congratulate you on the balancing act you have been able to manage thus far. You seem to have adopted a pretty pragmatic approach to the whole picture, and that pragmatism is a great tool to have in your box of tricks. It will serve you well in this trying environment.
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Post by choosinghappy on Jul 11, 2017 23:48:44 GMT -5
I reckon I could mount reasonable counter arguements to the *roadblock issues* you see Sister choosinghappy , in partic the financial ones, but this isn't the time or place for that. Rather, I think this is a time to congratulate you on the balancing act you have been able to manage thus far. You seem to have adopted a pretty pragmatic approach to the whole picture, and that pragmatism is a great tool to have in your box of tricks. It will serve you well in this trying environment. Thank you. You may be right that this is not the time nor place but at some point I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the financial roadblocks. I admit I have done no research on divorce, division of assets, alimony, etc. so the above are my assumptions and fears. Maybe the time has come that I should consider really looking into what would happen in the case of a divorce. And don't think I don't have emotions attached either. I still love my H. That feels like a reason to stay. I can't picture a future without him in it. There's another thing holding me back. The list goes on. So don't give me too much credit for the pragmatism
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Post by baza on Jul 11, 2017 23:56:46 GMT -5
When you get around to that information gathering re the financial implications of divorce, check out also levels of government assistance for you as primary carer of your kid, and what the kid is entitled to in their own right in regard to gov. assistance, subsidised child care and suchlike, education supprt etc etc. In my jurisdiction, all sorts of gov. assistance for the disabled is available (with plenty of hoop jumping to access it I ought add)
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Post by northstarmom on Jul 12, 2017 6:28:29 GMT -5
"baza said:This is probably going to come across as glib, and/or simplistic Sister lonelywifey . Probably because it is. But none the less I believe it to be so.
Who is most likely to do a better parenting job ?
An unhappy parent. A happy parent.
A parent in a dysfunctional environment. A parent in a neutral environment.
A parent who needs to direct a lot of energy toward a dysfunctional spouse's issues.
"I would need to go back to work full time and I'd need to hope I could find (and afford) good specialized care for my child. I would have financial concerns when I don't currently have any. I would be giving up fantastic medical insurance and may not be able to keep the same specialists we currently see, which could be devastating for my child's care."
Have you talked to a lawyer to find out what might be possible? For instance, your child might be able to keep the current insurance. Due to your child's needs, child support may be enough to allow you not to have to work full time. You have not described your husband as an uncaring father. Do you really think he'd want a settlement that causes medical hardship for your child?
An affair could, however, lead to a vindictive divorce if your husband finds out.
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Post by Apocrypha on Jul 12, 2017 11:04:11 GMT -5
I would need to go back to work full time and I'd need to hope I could find (and afford) good specialized care for my child. I would have financial concerns when I don't currently have any. I would be giving up fantastic medical insurance and may not be able to keep the same specialists we currently see, which could be devastating for my child's care. So while I agree a happy parent is a better parent I'm not sure that leaving would make me a happier parent. My hope is that it would make me a less sexually frustrated parent (and of course I'd hope to one day find a better relationship) but there's also no guarantee of that happening either, while the odds of my three above points happening are quite high, if not a given. My happiness is important and I know I deserve that but my main focus is and has to be: What is likely to be best for my child? Edited to add: It seems I've come to the determination that the only scenario I can see (hopefully) working would be to remain in my marriage and find an AP without my H knowing. I've come to realize that I'm secretly hoping the couples counseling will serve to make H finally understand how important sex is to me and since he can not and will not fulfill that need for me I *have* to fill the need elsewhere. I would like his approval to look outside the marriage. I don't know if I'll get that. But the reality is I have needs and if I have to sneak around to get them filled then that might just be what I have to do. An affair as solution indicates that you are still framing the problem of your marriage as a lack of sex, rather than how your husband's aversion to sex with you makes you feel. Having sex outside the marriage tends to shine a bright light on what's lacking at home, further illuminating a comparison to how you feel on excursions with your paramour who desires you, vs how you feel with your husband, who avoids you. The lesser investment your paramour has in shared history, hardship, stakes, compared to your husband, rubs salt in the wound. Invariably, it shows that a near stranger is more likely to want you than this person who knows you. Resentment on the home front increases. If the affair spills - either as a result of increased vigilance and suspicion on your spouse's part, sloppy forensics on your part, your paramour's part, or increased vigilance on your paramour's spouse's part, then you run the risk of a furious and betrayed spouse deciding to wreak maximum vengeance, or possibly even becoming despondent and depressed and nuking their own career. It's pretty common for work performance to dive in either a devastating infidelity AND a divorce, and data indicates it tends to hit men harder than women. Medical insurance, especially for special scenario with kids, is a sound, practical and reasonable consideration. It's possible your spouse may feel the same way. It's possible your spouse may also lose his job or his insurance at some time. In my own separation, we have chosen (so far, a couple years out) to live apart but to remain financially blended and to support the household as a financial unit, including with medical benefits (as we have some of our own). We are both invested in the notion, at the moment, that the children are the priority and meeting their financial needs is the priority. There's no guarantee that a spouse might arrive at similar thinking, but I can say with conviction that had I chosen to separate upon discovering my wife's cheating (as opposed to her telling me and trying to work it out), I was completely out of my right mind then, and likely would have attempted to inflict maximum harm, and try to put maximum distance between us as fast as possible, possibly to the family's long term detriment. An insight the family counselor gently tried to nudge us toward: Whether you are together or apart as husband and wife, you are going to remain a family as co-parents for a very long time. Perhaps the rest of your lives. Upon reflection, I think he was trying to get us to reframe "the relationship" as something independent on "the marriage", and changeable. The "marriage", such as either of us defined what a marriage is, was effectively over, and had been for years. The "relationship", as something undefined, continued. It's worth your time to break down the benefits that you associate with the marriage into smaller chunks - such as financial benefits - and to question the likelihood of such benefits continuing in one form or another in a separation.
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Post by beachguy on Jul 12, 2017 12:24:36 GMT -5
choosinghappy, your child's special needs are your H's child's special needs too. In a divorce, he is usually as responsible for his child as he is now, especially if he is the primary breadwinner now. Some jurisdictions punish "cheating" spouses. Might not affect child support but it might affect the cut of his income (in terms of alimony or maybe amount of child support if an unsympathetic judge has any leeway here. This is a good example where you might want to consult a lawyer on the impact of an affair, if that is the only slightly lesser evil you choose.
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