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Post by solodriver on Mar 28, 2017 21:35:18 GMT -5
I had the same excuse from my wife: "I can't because the dog can hear and see us and I don't want to close him out of the room!" When I suggested we go somewhere else away from home without the dog, the answer because, "I don't trust ANYONE to take care of the dog properly."
End of sex life.
I am sorry, but this made me laugh out loud. I was imagining your W taking the dog to a canine psychologist and saying, "Doctor, my dog is severely traumatized! My husband forced me to have sex with the dog in the room! And worst of all, he did me PEOPLE STYLE!" ROTFL, very good Flashjohn!
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Post by solodriver on Mar 28, 2017 21:38:14 GMT -5
Yep, exactly like Gunny Sgt Hartman said :"You're the lowest form of life on the earth." How tall are you, Private? Sir 5' 3" sir!
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Post by solodriver on Mar 28, 2017 21:39:50 GMT -5
How tall are you, Private? I didn't know they stacked shit that high! Sir I'm not from Texas sir!!!!
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Post by obobfla on Mar 28, 2017 21:46:01 GMT -5
I wanted to write this lady a letter too. I would have talked about parenting.
If there is one thing I have learned as a father, it is that kids will never do what you say, but they will do what you do and think the way you think. So if you see yourself as too busy to enjoy life, your children will get the idea that life is supposed to be all work and no play. Enjoy life, and your kids will be happy too.
I constantly finding myself making mistakes. I have just learned to say, "Oh that's another $20 towards therapy!" Despite having autism and a mentally ill mom, my son is a funny, popular kid at school. He's had the same girlfriend for a year. But he does have issues with his mom, so I am working on those.
As for pets, well they aren't shy about having sex or going the bathroom in front of me. Why should they care if you are getting it on? Are they upset that you had them neutered? I've had both cats and dogs, and neither cared about my having sex in front of them. If your animal does, you need to get a new animal. Maybe donate it to a monastery or convent.
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Post by solodriver on Mar 28, 2017 21:48:53 GMT -5
I didn't know they stacked shit that high! Ah, an educated man! I heard a very similar monologue on my first day of Air Force Basic Training in 1978 from my Senior Training Instructor!! That's why I could laugh about it when Full Metal Jacket came out.
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Post by greatcoastal on Mar 29, 2017 5:28:12 GMT -5
The closest thing to "I am a DAD," might be my ex - who couldn't be sexual if one of our pets was in the room; and would do anything for one of them before he would do me. And I felt like I couldn't say a word - since it was my idea for us to have pets in the first place. I'm an animal lover, so how could I possibly be upset at what a devoted "parent" he turned out to be? I had the same excuse from my wife: "I can't because the dog can hear and see us and I don't want to close him out of the room!" When I suggested we go somewhere else away from home without the dog, the answer because, "I don't trust ANYONE to take care of the dog properly."
End of sex life.
This reminds me of my W's lame excuse. "Grandpa might hear us". You mean, half deaf grandpa? The one who turns his hearing aids off grandpa? The one who's doors are shut, and his tv blaring, grandpa? How do you think he became grandpa in the first place!! (geeez)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 8:49:01 GMT -5
The closest thing to "I am a DAD," might be my ex - who couldn't be sexual if one of our pets was in the room; and would do anything for one of them before he would do me. And I felt like I couldn't say a word - since it was my idea for us to have pets in the first place. I'm an animal lover, so how could I possibly be upset at what a devoted "parent" he turned out to be? I had the same excuse from my wife: "I can't because the dog can hear and see us and I don't want to close him out of the room!" When I suggested we go somewhere else away from home without the dog, the answer because, "I don't trust ANYONE to take care of the dog properly."
End of sex life.
Those two should meet each other!
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Post by LITW on Mar 29, 2017 16:21:36 GMT -5
There used to be an EP group called "I am a mother above all else" I think the group title speaks for itself--I am sure many members were/are refusers.
I love this line "I assure you, you are still one of my top priorities – you just aren’t on the top of the list anymore." How does that even make sense? You are either top priority or you are not. Apparently this woman's idea of prioritizing her husband is worrying about his sleep apnea or his knee ... um ok.
As someone who went from top priority to bottom priority in my own wife's list instantly upon signing the marriage license, I was dumbstruck by this story at first, and I can very much sympathize with her husband. I think this missive reveals something about this woman ... that her husband has never been in her "top priorities". Let me explain.
There are priorities, and then there are top priorities. Priorities can and do change with circumstances, but top priorities never do. A person's top priorities are tied to his or her core self--and people are willing to make time for their top priorities. The extent you are willing to forego other things for your priorities shows what your top priorities are. If being intimate with her husband were a top priority, she would pick a day, make sure the kids were in bed, and let the vacuuming and dishes slide for a day to make it happen. Because something is always more urgent to her than being intimate with her husband, then her husband is not "one of her top priorities."
Of course, this truth applies to both sexes. If your husband makes time to play video games or go golfing with his buddies, but won't take time to try and meet some of your needs, or at the very least spend time with you, then you are not his top priority ... golfing or video games are.
This whole story is essentially a very long "I'm sorry, but ..." statement. She isn't sorry, and I'm pretty sure her husband knows that. The presence of the "but..." cleverly disguised as a hyphen shows us that she is not. No amount of regaling us with a laundry list of extenuating circumstances will convince us otherwise.
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Post by greatcoastal on Mar 29, 2017 16:57:10 GMT -5
"You just aren't on the top of the list anymore". What??? Yea..that really got me. Like during our therapy when my W. said,"I detached myself from you two years ago". My response was, "Oh really, I didn't even notice, you're that distant to begin with".
So where is he on "the list?" The bottom 3000?
Who makes this list? Is it a joint list, decided on by the "damn good team"? It's all about her, and her selfish control.
This reminds me of the time my W. and I were asked to write a list of our top 5 priorities.
I found my W's list, it had 4 things on it.
1) God 2) Family 3) work 4) church.
I asked her, "where's marriage on your list?" That got her. Typically she had a come back. she said, "oh, that's part of family". I reminded her of everything I have ever read, or heard, That puts God first, marriage second, and family third.
She says nothing,..... typical denial.
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Post by JonDoe on Mar 29, 2017 22:53:51 GMT -5
Jesus, just have sex with him, whiney little twat. These "articles" bolster the already incessant stereotype that men are the sex maniacs and women the frigid b*tches. These "articles" seemingly erase the women, like the glorious women of iliasm, with NORMAL sex drives. We just don't exist. Where are we? Gender-biased bullshit really gets me going - and no NOT in a good way. It's just the societal norm unfortunately. K, putting my homogenized mask back on. I hear ya loud and clear! However, as a man who is a few short months away from being free from a long term SM, I gotta admit to thinking married women that enjoy and encourage an active sex life are like unicorns and leprechauns. 😉
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Post by shamwow on Mar 30, 2017 13:21:13 GMT -5
Jesus, just have sex with him, whiney little twat. These "articles" bolster the already incessant stereotype that men are the sex maniacs and women the frigid b*tches. These "articles" seemingly erase the women, like the glorious women of iliasm, with NORMAL sex drives. We just don't exist. Where are we? Gender-biased bullshit really gets me going - and no NOT in a good way. It's just the societal norm unfortunately. K, putting my homogenized mask back on. I hear ya loud and clear! However, as a man who is a few short months away from being free from a long term SM, I gotta admit to thinking married women that enjoy and encourage an active sex life are like unicorns and leprechauns. 😉 I am in the exact same boat...just a few months from being out of a 20 year SM. But I don't think married women who enjoy and encourage an active sex life are mythical creatures. I do, believe, however, that they are pure gold. If you happen to find one, hang onto it tight. Just because you found iron pyrite (fools gold) before doesn't mean that the real thing isn't out there.
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Post by lyn on Mar 30, 2017 19:39:10 GMT -5
I hear ya loud and clear! However, as a man who is a few short months away from being free from a long term SM, I gotta admit to thinking married women that enjoy and encourage an active sex life are like unicorns and leprechauns. 😉 I am in the exact same boat...just a few months from being out of a 20 year SM. But I don't think married women who enjoy and encourage an active sex life are mythical creatures. I do, believe, however, that they are pure gold. If you happen to find one, hang onto it tight. Just because you found iron pyrite (fools gold) before doesn't mean that the real thing isn't out there. The "real thing" IS out there guys. Tons of men and women out there who LOVE sex........ hopefully a decent amount also LOVE intimacy. Fingers-crossed we all find this exquisite being - and once we do, here's hoping we're savvy enough to recognize it for what it is.
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Post by shamwow on Mar 31, 2017 13:09:25 GMT -5
I am in the exact same boat...just a few months from being out of a 20 year SM. But I don't think married women who enjoy and encourage an active sex life are mythical creatures. I do, believe, however, that they are pure gold. If you happen to find one, hang onto it tight. Just because you found iron pyrite (fools gold) before doesn't mean that the real thing isn't out there. The "real thing" IS out there guys. Tons of men and women out there who LOVE sex........ hopefully a decent amount also LOVE intimacy. Fingers-crossed we all find this exquisite being - and once we do, here's hoping we're savvy enough to recognize it for what it is. Well, I have the "men" part covered...the molester jogger in the park. Just got to find a lady who likes my harness now
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Post by lyn on Mar 31, 2017 14:32:33 GMT -5
The "real thing" IS out there guys. Tons of men and women out there who LOVE sex........ hopefully a decent amount also LOVE intimacy. Fingers-crossed we all find this exquisite being - and once we do, here's hoping we're savvy enough to recognize it for what it is. Well, I have the "men" part covered...the molester jogger in the park. Just got to find a lady who likes my harness now Hmmmm..... I've always had a thing for harnesses😉
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Post by shamwow on Mar 31, 2017 14:55:36 GMT -5
Well, I have the "men" part covered...the molester jogger in the park. Just got to find a lady who likes my harness now Hmmmm..... I've always had a thing for harnesses😉 Furiously taking notes.... Lol
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