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Post by bballgirl on Feb 24, 2017 9:29:03 GMT -5
I have never been attached to religion as a way of life. But I do have a few basic tenants that I try to live by. That being said, if one of these tenants causes harm to someone else, it causes me to stop and reexamine the reason behind it. 1. Do no harm or at least intend no harm (we all make mistakes). - Try not to be a dick. 2. Keep your word - I expect this from others as well and when they break their word to me - I have to know if it was intentional harm. If so, then I am coming for you. - you are a dick to me expect that I will be a dick to you. If it was unintentional, I will adapt to get what I need, but from then on - trust will be an issue. 3. Your plans are irrelevant - life will screw them up. If you can not or do not adapt then you are being a dick to yourself. Go with the flow. When real proof is offered that your way of doing things can be improved - embrace it! 4. What I have, I have worked for and I will defend it - I don't want to hurt you, but I will. 5. I believe love and sex are not mutually exclusive. When they are together it is awesome! When they are not together they are still pretty good. Don't be a dick - give your partner what they need or expect they will get it somewhere else.  Your don't be a dick is pretty much my philosophy. Earlier this month I was discussing religion with my friend who is an atheist and we were discussing the topic of salvation. So I told him despite the fact that I believe in God/ Jesus/ Heaven, I don't believe in it for salvation it's just what I believe. I also believe that if you don't believe in it that you don't go to heaven. So during the discussion my pov was if you are an asshole you go to Hell and if you're not an asshole you don't, you go to Heaven. Almost like a meter type thing. Hitler - Meter puts him in a special place in Hell. Joan Crawford- Hell. Nero - Hell. Charlie Sheen - Heaven Bballgirl - cheated a few times but overall not an asshole - Heaven! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 15:47:07 GMT -5
wewbwb, snowman12345, and bballgirl - I like the way you think. "Don't be a dick." If this was EP, that could go in a group called I Want You To Write a Four Word Philosophy.
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Post by wewbwb on Feb 24, 2017 16:06:53 GMT -5
@smartkat Start the thread....  |
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Post by wewbwb on Feb 24, 2017 16:09:55 GMT -5
 Fine, maybe more than "A little" but still. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 16:11:01 GMT -5
My favorite: "Do no harm but take no shit."
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Post by leifericson on Feb 24, 2017 21:13:34 GMT -5
I have never been attached to religion as a way of life. But I do have a few basic tenants that I try to live by. That being said, if one of these tenants causes harm to someone else, it causes me to stop and reexamine the reason behind it. 1. Do no harm or at least intend no harm (we all make mistakes). - Try not to be a dick. 2. Keep your word - I expect this from others as well and when they break their word to me - I have to know if it was intentional harm. If so, then I am coming for you. - you are a dick to me expect that I will be a dick to you. If it was unintentional, I will adapt to get what I need, but from then on - trust will be an issue. 3. Your plans are irrelevant - life will screw them up. If you can not or do not adapt then you are being a dick to yourself. Go with the flow. When real proof is offered that your way of doing things can be improved - embrace it! 4. What I have, I have worked for and I will defend it - I don't want to hurt you, but I will. 5. I believe love and sex are not mutually exclusive. When they are together it is awesome! When they are not together they are still pretty good. Don't be a dick - give your partner what they need or expect they will get it somewhere else. Well said. Follow the golden rule which most religions have some form of, treat others how you want to be treated (Don't do to others what you don't want done to you is a better form). I've seen plenty of religious people who are good people, some are dicks but you get a mix in any group. More people have been killed and mistreated because of religion and intolerance than for any other reason outside of disease. A good reason to stay away from organized religion. Being spiritual, believing in a creator is much more important imo. Be a mensch, that's religion enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 0:25:15 GMT -5
Very little is more obvious then the lack of god.
God was created to answer the unanswerable questions and as a control.
That control issue is painfully obvious here.
Imagine if no one ever told you that there was a god?
Marriage is basically an inevitable result of human society. It is hard enough and then someone introduced god. What a trip!!
Let marriage be itself.. Fallopians 1:12
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 25, 2017 1:58:16 GMT -5
For me, it is my love for my saviour, Jesus Christ, who gave his life for me that makes me want to be a better person. Out of my love and appreciation to God, I choose to understand and follow His will for my life. As my Creator, he knows what the original purpose and context that he designed and intended for sex. Following that purpose and plan is sometimes a sacrifice, yes, but not following it is actually damaging to me and whomever I use for satisfying my sexual human nature. I am always striving to love other people better, to love like he loves. If I have sex outside of God's will, purpose, and context then I am not being loving and instead am causing damage. No more would I want to hurt another person by eating because I'm hungry than by satisfying my need to orgasm. It's not about giving up sex. I'm keeping hope for having it in an appropriate context, which is really best for me in the end. I have outlets for the merely physical, but I also crave the spiritual side and pray for it I like your post. How long have you been married and how long have you been keeping hope? At some point hunger will harm you gravely though. Hopefully she is preparing a feast in the near future. |
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Post by shamwow on Feb 25, 2017 10:38:48 GMT -5
Ooooohhhhhh!
I can't wait for someone to introduce politics into this discussion. (sarcasm)
Is there a God? That is a matter of faith and each person must decide that for himself/herself.
Are we in sexless marriages? That is a matter of fact. If you take solace that there is a God and this is part of the Plan, that is your own choice. If you do not, that is also your choice.
However, we should treat each other here with respect, love, and compassion here as we each go through this painful experience.
In short, let's try to avoid preaching or bashing. As the great philosopher Rodney King once said: "Can't we all just get along?"
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 25, 2017 10:48:41 GMT -5
Or...same boner different jiz.
By another philosopher.
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Post by shamwow on Feb 25, 2017 10:56:55 GMT -5
Or...same boner different jiz. By another philosopher. lol how philosophical! |
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Post by johnwyo1 on Feb 26, 2017 14:02:41 GMT -5
For me, it is my love for my saviour, Jesus Christ, who gave his life for me that makes me want to be a better person. Out of my love and appreciation to God, I choose to understand and follow His will for my life. As my Creator, he knows what the original purpose and context that he designed and intended for sex. Following that purpose and plan is sometimes a sacrifice, yes, but not following it is actually damaging to me and whomever I use for satisfying my sexual human nature. I am always striving to love other people better, to love like he loves. If I have sex outside of God's will, purpose, and context then I am not being loving and instead am causing damage. No more would I want to hurt another person by eating because I'm hungry than by satisfying my need to orgasm. It's not about giving up sex. I'm keeping hope for having it in an appropriate context, which is really best for me in the end. I have outlets for the merely physical, but I also crave the spiritual side and pray for it I like your post. How long have you been married and how long have you been keeping hope? At some point hunger will harm you gravely though. Hopefully she is preparing a feast in the near future. Thanks for your reply. My wife and I have been married ten years. I hope that the hunger doesn't hurt me. Did you mean physically because of no release? I hope for a feast with my wife. I'm grateful for even a little fast food from her on the rare occasion. 😋 |
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 26, 2017 21:46:02 GMT -5
I like your post. How long have you been married and how long have you been keeping hope? At some point hunger will harm you gravely though. Hopefully she is preparing a feast in the near future. Thanks for your reply. My wife and I have been married ten years. I hope that the hunger doesn't hurt me. Did you mean physically because of no release? I hope for a feast with my wife. I'm grateful for even a little fast food from her on the rare occasion. 😋 fast food is fine, hopefully she serves it hot when it happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 23:16:55 GMT -5
Earlier this month I was discussing religion with my friend who is an atheist and we were discussing the topic of salvation. So I told him despite the fact that I believe in God/ Jesus/ Heaven, I don't believe in it for salvation it's just what I believe. I also believe that if you don't believe in it that you don't go to heaven. So during the discussion my pov was if you are an asshole you go to Hell and if you're not an asshole you don't, you go to Heaven. Almost like a meter type thing. Hitler - Meter puts him in a special place in Hell. Joan Crawford- Hell. Nero - Hell. Charlie Sheen - Heaven Bballgirl - cheated a few times but overall not an asshole - Heaven! , Maybe I can simplify this a little if csl hasn't already. God's not putting up barriers to prevent folks from having fellowship with him. No tricks or gadgetry. He's done everything necessary to reconcile us to him. All of us. And this reconciliation is freely given. No strings attached. If you want it, it's yours. And, you can have sex with whoever or whatever you want. But you probably won't do that any more than you'd deliberately key your dad's truck. He'd still love and take care of you if you did that. But you love your dad. And you don't begrudge your mother for restricting your heroin use. She's not being a kill-joy, she just knows it's bad for you and would prefer to save you from learning about heroin addiction the hard way. In the end, we choose to have a relationship with our Creator, or we choose not to. It's no more complicated than that. They (God) call the Kingdom of God a kingdom because it has a king -- Jesus. Not everyone loves Jesus or wants to serve him. To force these folks into citizenship in this kingdom -- heaven -- against their will would be worse than hell. So God grants them their hearts' desire and separates them from from his presence. So they can serve themselves for eternity. I'm thankful that God saves assholes. I like it in his kingdom. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 2:35:47 GMT -5
It's simple if you faith rules your life shut up and move on "for better or worse" .... I hate people of faith who need to cherry pick and ignore other parts of the Bible to get their point across. Be the husband or wife your supposed to be... end of story and if your here to defend your marital position then your a shitty Christian .... for better or for worse .... so shut the fuck up and move on Pretty damned arrogant to think you can tell others to shut up, doncha think? I am not just para phrasing god |
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