Finding sex & love on EP

I had to look up "Neat".

Nice.... but I still like my Crown....smooth and warm.... hmmmm...i like some other things that are smooth and warm too....

Maybe it's just me.....
There are several questions running thru this thread, several opinions and thoughts about what happens between members here. A few of my thoughts:
While reading thru this thread, I kept looking at the title "Finding sex and love on EP" and the chart "Did you hookup on EP?" and it bothered me. Quite a bit.
I am not a word Nazi, but I believe that different words mean very different things, and especially here on ILIASM and on EP, the use of the most correct word is very important. In fact, I've always been extremely impressed at peoples ability to express some very deep feelings and emotions, both here and at EP. It's been stunning at times. 

Did I "hook up" on EP? No. Most definitely not. I'm just not wired that way. I fell in love with someone on EP.  
Did I have sex with someone I met on EP? Technically, yes. While I made love to them, I guess you could say I did.
Did I have cyber sex with a person on EP? No. I made love to their mind and mine, with my words. And they with me.

Some might say I'm splitting hairs, maybe parsing the meaning of the words, too far. But I don't think I am. I think it ties back into the other parts that I'm seeing in this thread. Is it of any big concern or consequence that we're asking about it because it's EP or ILIASM.org? I respectfully disagree with Fiery and baza and others about the significance of it being here, at least for me. While I am on other general public sites, I don't have the opportunity to read those peoples inner most feelings and thoughts on their needs for love, intimacy, sex, and fulfillment. Here, I do. Here I get to express what mine are, and I get to explore what I want for that in my life. As love, acceptance, sex, desire, intimacy, affection, happiness, and fulfillment are the biggest need in my life next to food, I'd say that this place is unique in that. I love to play guitar....but....this, this is important to my very survival. 

I found at EP and here that by doing that, by having that as a starting point for PM's with the women that I am friends with, and the main topic, we are miles away from topics I'd have on a guitar playing site, or a long distance train trip, or a horse riding forum. Miles and miles.....

I've also found that, in having these types of conversations, I have found something very unique can happen. A connection. An almost instant connection. One that I can't explain, how it happens, why it happens, how it happened with that particular person, though I've gone thru it once on EP. 

And I'm finding it again.

I know many of the women here, and a lot of women on EP. I have exchanged PM's with them. Lot's. We talked about deep things. We joked and laughed behind the scenes in these PM's.
But I haven't had that sudden realization like I have with one particular person of a deep connection, a "click", a swift OMG Tug On The Heart....sudden....stunning...scary...and....

Absolutely wonderful. With this one person. 

Have I "hooked up" on ILIASM.org? - No. I most definitely never will. But I may be falling in love with someone I've met on ILIASM - I've found a deep connection, with someone who I now know more about than I ever will with someone on Guitarplayer.com. She doesn't even play guitar!  (She will think that's funny....I hope...LOL) 
Have I had cyber sex with a person on ILIASM? No. We've made love to our minds, with my words and her's.
Have I made love with someone on ILIASM? - Not yet. But to take that connection, those thoughts and feelings that we've expressed to each other, and express them IRL, while literally looking in each other's eyes and hearts, while touching......wow.....just wow.....*sigh*

And it's wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. 

Yep! I did! Though, given what I said, the inability to select more than one was kind of limiting! Ha ha ha!! 

As for the wording....it's fine. Lol. I've found that iliasm'ers are an extremely inclusive and non-judgmental group of people! I may not be "wired that way" (my personal wiring, not my worldview) for a casual hookup (damn it?!?), but I'm glad, if not just flat out envious of those who can find the shear fun and joy in them. Love is love. Intimacy is intimacy. It's a basic human need. Not having it is why we're here. I wouldn't presume to judge anyone who can find what their refuser won't provide them. Hooking up, or falling in love, we all need to feel wanted and desired.

It's how we ALL are wired. 

I can tell you I have a connection with someone on here. We started with messages and really hit it off. I normally would be private about this, but there have been some posts that might have given it away. You know who you are lol

We decided on some guidelines from the start. We wanted to make sure we're both very comfortable with things we did/said.

I have advice for anyone interested in a female friend on here. Don't send an unsolicited dick pic to start. And don't go too fast. Everyone on here has some pain they're dealing with. Don't make it worse.


I can certainly see how one might fall in love with someone on here. And as far as sex goes, there's variations of that depending on your definition. I've learned to use my imagination again. A few words and instant arousal is amazing. And of course there's other technology as well.

I consider myself very lucky. Some of this has included experiences I missed out on when I was young.

So true... the first message should always be simple: "Hi!".  Anything more risks being too wordy.