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Post by winds on Aug 14, 2020 21:23:00 GMT -5
“She just refuses to accept my resignation under any circumstances”
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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 15, 2020 6:56:34 GMT -5
“She just refuses to accept my resignation under any circumstances” 😂 Is she bigger and stronger than you? Or is she packing a 9mm?
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Post by Handy on Aug 15, 2020 10:33:41 GMT -5
Wind “She just refuses to accept my resignation under any circumstances”
The reality is you "could" resign (divorce) because the state or local government allows divorces. More correctly you stay because, like a lot of ILIASM posters, you want to avoid all or some of the problems associated with divorce. I am in that "avoiding the problems" camp and that is OK for now until something changes.
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Post by saarinista on Aug 15, 2020 11:33:59 GMT -5
Here's a thought that might help some of the stayer high earner guys. To wit: as loathsome as your wife might be, at least she wasn't SO disgusting that she decreased your earning ability, right? Maybe if you look at a it that way, it will be easier to give her some of the earnings she didn't stand in the way of if/when you bail?
Another thought: the longer you stay, the longer she'll have UNFETTERED access to ALL of the marital assets. However, divorce filing will halt her ability to financially encumber the marital estate by her sole action. As I understand it, once the filing is in, bills incurred after that date are credited to the divorce settlement. She can't legally run out and spend whatever the hell she wants to on her own, as she currently can! Any decent women with half a brain (like me) know that any guy we meet going forward will be broke due to divorce laws. That's why we are working (or trying to) and reasonable about what we can expect financially from a future man.
I would avoid any future woman who won't sign a prenup or who doesn't get it that divorce is financially punishing for affluent men. Stay away fron gold diggers. Always good advice, actually. Marry a responsible, dutiful woman.
Or just don't get married. I'm not sure I even want to again. Maybe I don't even want to get divorced that badly. Maybe I just wanted to play around. I don't know. I'm so tired of seeing the moochery of some wives, I'm not sure I want to go there again. Meh.
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Post by Handy on Aug 15, 2020 12:45:43 GMT -5
To give a glib answer to Saarinista's latest post about not getting or getting married again, "bur she is so HOT, I couldn't resist" Handy's version of explaining the little head's logic.
A couple of younger women I know said they would never marry again but after they were in a long term relationship with a guy they really liked It seems the women wanted to get married again. I don't know any divorced men so I have no actual experience BUT I suspect it is the same way for men.
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Post by saarinista on Aug 15, 2020 13:55:57 GMT -5
Look. Could I envision getting married again? Yeah. Will it happen? Heck, I'm not sure whether it makes sense to get divorced at this point.
My main thing is finding a decent job so I have a life focus other than... nothing? Also, I can't afford to leave my husband without a job. Nor would I want to.
It's tough when things other than just marital sex are bad.
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Post by isthisit on Aug 15, 2020 15:04:53 GMT -5
It’s a year and a half since I exited my marriage and I have been reflecting upon it a lot recently as time is moving on now. Part of this has involved trying to objectively examine my own choices.
I think at the core the reason I stayed was because I perceived the pain of leaving to be more than the pain of staying. Up until I reached my tipping point where suddenly I understood it to be the other way around. I factored in not only the pain of today, but added to the weight of my future trapped in my marriage and it was horrific, much worse than the pain of leaving. Because of course we should all live without any pain at all, and definitely not caught between two flavours of it.
So, now life is not all unicorns and rainbows. Realistically it never will be because that’s life right? But I do have days which are unicorns and rainbows which I never had whilst trapped between those flavours of pain. Sometimes I have a run of those days and I enjoy them immensely as my reward for my bravery in getting out.
I guess everyone will have their own tipping point, mine came suddenly and caught me unawares in an everyday encounter that caused my epiphany. I hope you all experience yours, because past the immediate pain life is so much lighter, brighter and joyful. My future is mine to shape, share and explore.
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Post by baza on Aug 15, 2020 21:17:39 GMT -5
I think that humans will usually take what they perceive to be - "the easy way out".
What does happen in some instances, is that the persons "perspective" changes .... that is to say that what may have been seen as "the easy option" changes, and what appeared to be the "hardest option" actually holds the potential to be a more life enhancing option.
This tipping point is where one's focus may move from "short term gain for long term pain" to "short term pain for long term gain".
Your focus subtly shifts to a longer term .... to "what is in my longer term best interests". And, almost certainly, choosing what is in your longer term best interests, is going to involve some very significant short term pain.
Yet, as far as your future goes, the leaving option may actually be the "easier" option. And humans usually choose the easy option.
The tipping point is way more likely to be based on your perception of what's in your longer term best interests changing, rather than what the easiest immediate option is.
The situation you are in isn't likely to change much .... but your perception of the situation may indeed change - a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 16:37:13 GMT -5
I've been examining this carefully lately. Not the surface reasons but the real core. The reason I stay is that I don't think I'll find someone again. There, I said it. How about the rest of you? The one-short-sentence reason that you stay. Strange that I posted this almost exactly one year ago. My reasons have changed. I would be fine with being alone and, in some ways, it would be preferable to staying. My "if I'm honest" reason these days is that I no longer resent the lack of a sex life, truly down to zero, which is a blessing. I'm at a wait and see phase on the marriage but not related to sex. The core is now familiarity and the kids (all just out of college aged) and that's enough to not want to blow up my life and rebuild.
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Post by baza on Aug 17, 2020 20:08:10 GMT -5
Seems to me Brother @tooyoungtobeold2 , that you've moved past the fear of "not being to find someone else" and would be fine being alone.
That is pretty impressive progress in your thinking, moving on from a "fear" based choice. "Fear" based choices seldom work out well longer term.
And, if you have truly gotten over the resentment of your ILIASM deal that's another big step forward.
Your thinking may yet clarify further given more time, but if you have gone over the fear and the resentment hurdles then you can make you next choice without those two matters muddying the water.
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Post by lessingham on Aug 29, 2020 5:57:51 GMT -5
Today I do not know why. I ricked my back and had to rest all day. The worst case of passive aggressive ever. Meals were prepared with clatter and scowls, "I suppose you want me to make you another coffee", everything was effort and my fault. This morning she refuses to get dressed and had a stomach ache, chores are either not to be done or my back is tested.
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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 29, 2020 6:50:09 GMT -5
Today I do not know why. I ricked my back and had to rest all day. The worst case of passive aggressive ever. Meals were prepared with clatter and scowls, "I suppose you want me to make you another coffee", everything was effort and my fault. This morning she refuses to get dressed and had a stomach ache, chores are either not to be done or my back is tested. Let's hope that you don't come down with a really serious ailment. Unless you are a "whiner" and are milking your back problem for all it's worth, and perhaps deserving of her being cross about the whole thing, this example of how your spouse responds to your broken condition should be an eye opener for you.
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Post by northstarmom on Aug 29, 2020 8:23:21 GMT -5
What would you expect, lessingham, from a selfish woman who says if you become infirm, she will put you in a home?
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Post by lessingham on Aug 29, 2020 14:40:54 GMT -5
I do not whine and I am not ever going into a home. I'll totter off Beachy Head first
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Post by Handy on Aug 29, 2020 17:20:40 GMT -5
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