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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 16, 2017 11:47:26 GMT -5
Back when I was younger, before electricity, there was, grassy fields, swimming pools, inner tubes, diving boards, barns, hay bales, forests, lawn chairs, sandy beaches, surfboards, blankets, fence railings,roof tops, recliners, couches, love seats,back seats, pick up truck beds, car hoods, beds in 18 wheelers, school bus seats, sleeping bags, park benches, weight lifting benches, picnic tables, coffee tables, kitchen tables, counter-tops, washer and dryer tops, bath tubs, showers, etc.... Who needs a bed?
Agh... the good old days.
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Post by novembercomingfire on Jan 16, 2017 12:56:35 GMT -5
Back when I was younger, before electricity, there was, grassy fields, swimming pools, inner tubes, diving boards, barns, hay bales, forests, lawn chairs, sandy beaches, surfboards, blankets, fence railings,roof tops, recliners, couches, love seats,back seats, pick up truck beds, car hoods, beds in 18 wheelers, school bus seats, sleeping bags, park benches, weight lifting benches, picnic tables, coffee tables, kitchen tables, counter-tops, washer and dryer tops, bath tubs, showers, etc.... Who needs a bed? Agh... the good old days. Yep. In the days when anything was a bed. As compared to now, when not even a bed is a bed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:02:54 GMT -5
Oh, yeah. I was mostly thinking about the tall posts; form, not function. The whole need-a-ladder-to-get-into-bed design kinda kills a bunch of on-off positions. I noticed that could be a challenge with our current pillow-top bed; of course, that problem has never presented here... Have the best of both. Tall 4 poster bed with a wide padded bench at the foot. Opens up some possibilities. You just gave me a bumper sticker idea. CREATIVE THINKERS DO IT BETTER
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:27:10 GMT -5
We've had the talk many times, but only since I suggested during therapy that I thought we should consider separating, did she suggest that I should sleep in the spare room. In a strange way, it's so much more comfortable - not wondering/hoping/fantasizing if she'll decide to wake we up with a naked nuzzle (which of course, never happens). There have also been too many times when I'm so horny that I can't help myself and roll over and try to spoon and cuddle and scratch her back...She either does nothing/zip/nada, or lets me know she only wants to cuddle. So, for me the 'banishment room' is curiously more comfortable - not dealing with quashed hopes when the proximity of an attractive woman is so close and already in bed. BTW, our children are all grown 2 already out of the house (one son remains, but he's pretty much aware of our impending separation), so kids and space are not an issue for us. What do others do about this? what would you prefer? We both sleep in the same bed, but have different falling asleep preferences. She prefers to lay on her right side near the edge. I prefer going to sleep on my left side near the other edge. It looks like a queen's sized bed, but feels like King size. The other night I faced her side and put my left hand on her left arm. It felt weird. Like it wasn't the arm I used to know. Does that make sense to you? Stuff like that happens when there's very little physical contact and a lot of time has gone by. I had forgotten what her arm felt like. I can't even imagine what the rest of her body would feel like. Not that I'm interested in finding out at this point.
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Post by shamwow on Jan 18, 2017 19:19:34 GMT -5
So the past few days she has been crossing the 3-4 foot demilitarized zone between us. No idea why but she has been extremely ill with a stomach bug for almost two weeks now.
Biological warfare, perhaps? Perhaps I should launch a gas attack.
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Post by lyn on Jan 19, 2017 13:17:00 GMT -5
So I haven't responded to this thread, but Ibe been thinking about it.
A few months ago we moved to a new city, in a new state, bought a lot of new things...... EVERYTHING was supposed to be New - new epoch of our relationship - we talked about this...... for the millionth time
Among the "new" items, was a fabulous new bed, four poster, galvanized steel - upholstered headboard - very French Chateau..... anyhoo...... at the showroom picking out this bed my H said, "You know I'm going to tie you to the posts right (he whispered in my ear)", my immediate response was, "well, you better" (in my head it was more like, "yeah right"). Anyway, a few weeks later, said bed is delivered - along with a super plush cashmere covered mattress. We made up the bed in our fluffy white linens. That night my H climbed into this new bed - the "new "stage", if you will for all of this amazing sex we're about to start having. By the time I came back from brushing my teeth and lotioning up like we girls like to do, he was sawing logs like no tomorrow, rolled over on his side facing away from me. I went back into the closet changed out of the silk nightie and into an old college t-shirt, and ended up falling asleep on the deck.
The next night, H showed up again (I am IN bed wearing zilch) and I said, "This new bed is NOT a celibacy bed" . Let me just say, I'm the furthest thing from a nag...... my tone was not bitchy, It was quiet, peaceful - I thought MAYBE he would climb in with me and make this STUPID bed a "sex" bed not a "celibacy" bed. Nope. He walked off and now the guest room is HIS room and he seems almost giddy about it. We did end up having terrible, kind of drunken reset sex in the new bed about a week later. I woke up alone ....... wandered over to the guest rooms and there he was, sleeping like a baby. Whatever.
This is a long rambling post....... if you read this..... thanks <B
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Post by shamwow on Jan 19, 2017 13:36:50 GMT -5
Serious question. Are you sure your husband isn't gay?
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Post by lyn on Jan 19, 2017 13:47:34 GMT -5
I think it is a possibility.
Of course, it's possible he's just not into me - for whatever the reason. Crushing to the self-esteem yes, but, I'm pretty sure I'm not hideous.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 19, 2017 14:36:06 GMT -5
I think it is a possibility. Of course, it's possible he's just not into me - for whatever the reason. Crushing to the self-esteem yes, but, I'm pretty sure I'm not hideous. Some of you ladies don't give yourself near enough credit! Your posts tell me you are sexy, confident, compassionate, a risk taker, fun, exciting, caring, and highly capable and deserving of a confident, happy, intimate man . A giver who gives back and will cherish you!
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Post by darktippedrose on Jan 19, 2017 14:36:09 GMT -5
After my husbands 5 month trip after the children were diagnosed, my husband would wait until I was sleeping and then take my debit card. Thus - my husband would rarely come to bed before I was asleep. I would cry myself to sleep all the time.
he wouldn't touch me. Gradually and gradually I couldn't sleep on his chest. or anything like that. He would be so careful not to touch me in any way, sometimes even shoving me over so we wouldn't touch.
When we moved to a place with stairs, i decided to sleep by myself.
It was too painful to sleep next to him, so I sleep in the living room. that way the kidz don't get out of control, and I'd rather sleep by myself. but with my kidz, I rarely do. I usually wake up surrounded by them lol.
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Post by lyn on Jan 19, 2017 15:50:01 GMT -5
I think it is a possibility. Of course, it's possible he's just not into me - for whatever the reason. Crushing to the self-esteem yes, but, I'm pretty sure I'm not hideous. Some of you ladies don't give yourself near enough credit! Your posts tell me you are sexy, confident, compassionate, a risk taker, fun, exciting, caring, and highly capable and deserving of a confident, happy, intimate man . A giver who gives back and will cherish you! You are one in a million GC. Thank you for saying this!
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Post by GeekGoddess on Jan 19, 2017 16:01:50 GMT -5
lyn - I'm so sorry the galvanized steel frame has not been properly tested. He is a total schmuck. And, the most cynical part of my brain wonders if the move is a way to be sure you are isolated from a support network of friends - i.e., so you won't get any bright ideas about runnin' off. The whole "new city, new bed, same shithole results" thing makes me very sad.
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Post by unmatched on Jan 19, 2017 19:01:43 GMT -5
It is bad enough being celibate in the first place. For him to be talking about a fresh start in a new city and promising to tie you to your new bed, and then retreat to the spare room just sucks! I am sure he has his own issues with guilt and inadequacy blah blah blah, but to lead you on like that is totally unacceptable in my book.
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Post by lyn on Jan 19, 2017 19:54:32 GMT -5
lyn - I'm so sorry the galvanized steel frame has not been properly tested. He is a total schmuck. And, the most cynical part of my brain wonders if the move is a way to be sure you are isolated from a support network of friends - i.e., so you won't get any bright ideas about runnin' off. The whole "new city, new bed, same shithole results" thing makes me very sad. @geekgoddess I know! What a terrible waste of a perfectly good, sturdy bed! Maybe his intentions were/are different than his actions..... I dunno.... The good thing is...... I'm not really 'why chasing' too much anymore. One thing is for sure, I'm not staying in this city any longer than absolutely necessary!
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Post by lyn on Jan 19, 2017 19:57:57 GMT -5
It is bad enough being celibate in the first place. For him to be talking about a fresh start in a new city and promising to tie you to your new bed, and then retreat to the spare room just sucks! I am sure he has his own issues with guilt and inadequacy blah blah blah, but to lead you on like that is totally unacceptable in my book. Thanks unmatched and yes, it's a pretty crappy thing to do. But, if nothing else, these past few months have dashed any hope I had at a miraculous transformation in this thing. That is actually something very worthwhile.
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