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Post by h on Oct 19, 2017 20:30:09 GMT -5
Reading your Wash. Rinse. Repeat. really hit home for me. I had been running out the clock on life for years too. My pattern was slightly different but similar. No screaming at traffic (there isn't any traffic here) but there was daily jerking off and drinking myself stupid to kill the libido. I dialed back the drinking once I started in here. This place has been a lifesaver. I know that if I hadn't found this group, I probably would have spiralled down into rock bottom at some point. Not that I wan't anyone to hit rock bottom-- but here's a helpful phrase, "rock bottom is a very good place to build a foundation". There's wisdom in that, but I'm glad I didn't hit bottom. This way, I can work on fixing my life without risking my career first. I was close to just saying "screw it all" and quitting everything.
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Oct 23, 2017 13:17:34 GMT -5
Post by shamwow on Oct 23, 2017 13:17:34 GMT -5
Not that I wan't anyone to hit rock bottom-- but here's a helpful phrase, "rock bottom is a very good place to build a foundation". There's wisdom in that, but I'm glad I didn't hit bottom. This way, I can work on fixing my life without risking my career first. I was close to just saying "screw it all" and quitting everything. My AA sponsor has an interesting way of putting it. He, like me, never hit "true" bottom (living under a bridge, unemployed, broke, in prison, etc...). Instead, we both kind of hit "middle bottom." We had both become functioning alcoholics, able to get by day to day and miserable in doing so. My SM was similar. I never hung myself from the rafters because I couldn't take it anymore. Yes, I was just running the clock out on my life. I was close to saying "screw it" to most of the things I loved. Fortunately, I hit my "middle bottom" without the need to completely wreck everything around me first. I was satisfied to wallow in the shit for a little while and did not feel the need to know how it tasted as well. But if you can fix yourself while in the shit? You'll be much better able to tackle the post-SM world once out of it.
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Post by hopingforachange on Oct 23, 2017 13:35:26 GMT -5
I see rock bottom as a personal level, everyone had thier own limits as to how far they will fall until the falling is more painful then the action needed to correct the falling.
For some, they have to have the pain of living under a bridge other's, just have to realize they are miserable and are self medicating.
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Post by shamwow on Oct 23, 2017 13:43:06 GMT -5
I see rock bottom as a personal level, everyone had thier own limits as to how far they will fall until the falling is more painful then the action needed to correct the falling. For some, they have to have the pain of living under a bridge other's, just have to realize they are miserable and are self medicating. Truth ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by shamwow on Oct 26, 2017 13:07:59 GMT -5
T-Plus 106: Divorce Finalized My Hurricane Harvey refugee family moved out this week. I'm excited that they got back on their feet so quickly and happy I could help them do so. Over the past two months or so, I've grown accustomed to hearing the sounds of an intact family once again. It will be a bit of a shock to the system to go from "house full of people" to living completely alone twice in the course of 6 months. Overall, though, I would say that having them there has been a good experience for all involved. Although, I'm sure that my son will enjoy sleeping back in his bed again tonight rather than on the couch (falling asleep to the xbox). Many on the forum lately have been feeling down lately, and I'm wondering if it's the holidays coming up. For the love of Christ (pun intended), they already have Christmas stuff on sale at Wal-Mart. We haven't even hit Halloween yet. WTF? Zombies and Santa together in the holiday section? I kind of wonder how I'm going to handle the holiday season spending much of it alone. I'm somewhat lucky that I don't see it as the huge event that most people seem to think it is. But it is a time to spend with family. And for the first time in my adult life, my family will be dispersed. But in the end, I made my decision and know to the marrow of my bones it was the correct one. My marriage was literally killing me. But as with all decisions, there are consequences. The consequence here is that I now live alone most of the time. Lonliness can be pretty brutal, but whether I want to remain lonely is also up to me. Right now, my non-working hours break into four parts: Spending time with ballofconfusion (online or in person), time with my kids on "my" weekends, time at my kid's activities, and time working the AA program. In a few weeks, the kids activities will start to taper off for the fall. So it's up to me to PROACTIVELY figure out how to fill the void. Since the divorce, I've let my diet/exercise slip a little bit (up about 10 pounds...grrr). I also stopped doing BJJ (Brazillian Jiu Jitsu). Perhaps I pick BJJ back up or pick back up rucking. This is the 3/4 of the year where Houston isn't like the surface of the sun, so some exercise seems like a good idea. Perhaps a meetup group? My Spanish needs some work, as well as my guitar. I haven't done much volunteering, but perhaps it is time to give that a try as well. If I were a wiser man, I would have realized that all of these were options DURING my marriage. Instead during the bad decade or two I did a couple of these things, but it was always with a beaten down spirit. Now, I am free of my SM and all its attendant baggage. For today at least, I'm also sober. As a result, I actually feel ALIVE for the first time in many, many years. I am grateful that I find myself in this situation. I am grateful that I finally have the opportunity to LIVE.
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Post by shamwow on Nov 6, 2017 16:01:06 GMT -5
T-Plus 116: Divorce Finalized
My daughter turned 17 on Saturday. 17 years ago, she was this little 7 pound 11 ounce helpless thing that needed my love, care, and protection. Now she is a self-absorbed, phone-wielding high school student. Like most teens she thinks she knows everything, and questions just about everything I do. It doesn't help that her mom spent her entire life portraying me as a bumbling fool of a TV sitcom dad. Undoubtedly, she still does, and she has them for the majority of the time. I have to work double-time to dispel that myth. But she is a teen, and this kind of behavior is kind of par for the course...divorce or not.
On Friday, I took her out shopping because she wanted a new outfit for when we went out to dinner on Saturday night. We went to the nearby outlet mall and she found something nice and reasonably priced. We picked up a cookie cake I'd ordered for the next evening. Finally, we drove to the barn. She does FFA at school and is raising a pig. We are in suburbia, so the barn is a bit out of place, but this is her third year raising an animal (past two years were goats), and going to the barn is nothing new.
What was new this evening was that on Friday night, her pig was suffering from rectal prolapse. Well, for those of you who are un-initiated to this condition, it basically means that the pig was trying to poop so hard its rectum was literally pushed 2 inches OUTSIDE of its ass. So after a call to the vet, we are given the instructions to try to "just push it back in and see if it will stay". So here I am. A 45 year old man fisting a juvenile pig. I won't go into details (and, oh boy are there details). But my intervention was unsuccessful. I had to call my ex and have her drive us the hour to the vet. Now, my request was to borrow her car (she drives an SUV and I have a Camry), but I get it. Daughter wanted to ride with the pig. I get that too. So we took two cars. They headed back to Houston while I settled the bill. It turns out mom didn't pay last week at the vet so I get to pay for both visits. Now, I'll true this up, but I don't think for an instant that it was an accident I was taking care of the bill and she "forgot" to mention she hadn't paid the previous week.
That evening, we went to the Cheesecake Factory (party of 9) for dinner. Daughter wanted both mom and I there. I'm cool with that. It's her birthday and she can invite whomever she wants. But ex drives 5 of them and I drive 4 of us. As we are waiting for a table (had to split it for the party size) I take my daughter to the side and explain to her she should figure out who is sitting at which table (without weighing in myself). Instead of thinking about it, she loudly says that she will want her boyfriend at her table and can't decide from there. Ex wife helpfully suggests we split table based on what car they came in. Convenient that it was her who drove my daughter. I gotta say...the woman is good at this shit. Daughter says "sure" and that's how we are sitting. I paid for dinner at my table, and the ex paid for dinner at hers (if she wants more people at her table, I'm sure as hell not paying for them).
My niece was there as well. She also spent the night. It was a good barometer of how I'm being portrayed in her family. Apparently, they barely let her spend the night at my place (only at begging from my ex...uh yeah). I got an almost constant "you are an asshole" stare from my niece. 9 months ago, I was the "fun" uncle who was the only one spending any time with the kids on vacation (everyone else was busy getting trashed). But I guess that's to be expected. My ex can't exactly tell the truth as to why I left her. So she has to spin something about how I left her destitude (exempting the 300k in cash / retirement and another 100k in child support paid over the next 5 years).
So I guess the takeaway here is this: Even though I bought an outfit, organized the party, had her friends overnight, and even fisted a pig for my daughter, the ex is still better at manipulation than I am. Maybe it would be different if we had 50/50 custody, but we don't, so the message my kids get will always be slanted towards mom and against dad. And she's SO good at manipulating the message while making herself look the victim. That ain't going to change. I can only pray for the serenity to accept it.
But at least now I have the freedom and opportunity to put my own mark on the kids. It is fighting against the tide sometimes, but at least I have the opportunity to show them who their dad really is.
On a side note, my daughter suffers from severe migraines. Her doctor recommended several things, but among them is to go to a therapist. I'm thinking I need to proactively look into this myself since it could either be a way for my daughter to appreciate her pig-fisting father or a way to condemn the man who left her mother. Any thoughts on this, team?
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Post by northstarmom on Nov 6, 2017 16:24:20 GMT -5
“On a side note, my daughter suffers from severe migraines. Her doctor recommended several things, but among those is to go to a therapist. I'm thinking I need to proactively look into this myself since it could either be a way for my daughter to appreciate her pig-fisting father or a way to condemn the man who left their mother.”
You need to proactively proceed with getting your daughter a therapist in order to reduce her chances of continuing to experience severe pain.
As for where your daughter sat: she probably didn’t care which parent was at her table. At her age, she probably would have preferred that you and her mom just stay home while footing the bill.
Since she was guest of honor, she should have spent time engaging with guests at both of the tables.
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Post by hopingforachange on Nov 6, 2017 16:29:37 GMT -5
shamwow I know your daughter had to have taken a video of you anally fisting the pig. You have to post that and not deprive us if that laugh.
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Post by shamwow on Nov 6, 2017 16:34:43 GMT -5
shamwow I know your daughter had to have taken a video of you anally fisting the pig. You have to post that and not deprive us if that laugh. For a brief moment, I thought you might be right, but she was holding the poor animal down. I will never watch Deliverance again and hear the line "squeal like a pig" in quite the same way. And watch out or I'll PM you a series of still pictures of the pig. It is NOT pretty, especially if you are like me and like bacon.
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Post by hopingforachange on Nov 6, 2017 17:47:41 GMT -5
shamwow I know your daughter had to have taken a video of you anally fisting the pig. You have to post that and not deprive us if that laugh. For a brief moment, I thought you might be right, but she was holding the poor animal down. I will never watch Deliverance again and hear the line "squeal like a pig" in quite the same way. And watch out or I'll PM you a series of still pictures of the pig. It is NOT pretty, especially if you are like me and like bacon. I grew up in a rural area and when we went to a petting zoo my kid scared a little girl by calling the chicks chicken nuggets.
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Post by h on Nov 6, 2017 18:20:30 GMT -5
For a brief moment, I thought you might be right, but she was holding the poor animal down. I will never watch Deliverance again and hear the line "squeal like a pig" in quite the same way. And watch out or I'll PM you a series of still pictures of the pig. It is NOT pretty, especially if you are like me and like bacon. I grew up in a rural area and when we went to a petting zoo my kid scared a little girl by calling the chicks chicken nuggets. shamwow and hopingforachange I grew up on a farm and knew exactly where my steaks and burgers came from. Kind of awkward to explain to friends who came for dinner when I was a kid though.
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Post by h on Nov 6, 2017 20:32:13 GMT -5
shamwow if your kids were taught to think for themselves, they will see the good you bring to their lives. I'll admit when my parents got divorced just after I went away to college, I blamed my father and felt sorry for my mother. Looking back, yes my father was a jerk most of the time but my mother wasn't blameless in the breakdown of the marriage. They couldn't even bring themselves to smile for our wedding pictures being in the same room as one another. The thing that stands out the most to me now though, is the fact that my father has never once said a negative word about her in my presence. My mother doesn't show this restraint and regularly brings up his faults and wrongs from decades ago. Your Ex's negativity will come back to bite her some day. You keep being you and they will see it. It may not be right away but eventually they will see it.
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Post by shamwow on Nov 7, 2017 14:33:58 GMT -5
It just occurred to me...since I fisted a pig on Friday, does that make me a pigfucker?
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Post by h on Nov 7, 2017 14:40:43 GMT -5
It just occurred to me...since I fisted a pig on Friday, does that make me a pigfucker? Pigfister yes, pigfucker no.
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Nov 7, 2017 14:45:17 GMT -5
Post by shamwow on Nov 7, 2017 14:45:17 GMT -5
shamwow if your kids were taught to think for themselves, they will see the good you bring to their lives. I'll admit when my parents got divorced just after I went away to college, I blamed my father and felt sorry for my mother. Looking back, yes my father was a jerk most of the time but my mother wasn't blameless in the breakdown of the marriage. They couldn't even bring themselves to smile for our wedding pictures being in the same room as one another. The thing that stands out the most to me now though, is the fact that my father has never once said a negative word about her in my presence. My mother doesn't show this restraint and regularly brings up his faults and wrongs from decades ago. Your Ex's negativity will come back to bite her some day. You keep being you and they will see it. It may not be right away but eventually they will see it. The fear I have is that they weren't taught to think for themselves...at least my daughter. I spend a lot of time with my kids, trying to teach them the things they need to know to survive in this world. But mom's example is the opposite. From her, they learn dependence, manipulation, and victimhood. I have more of a chance with my son since he is still 13, but I fear I don't have enough time left with my daughter. These lessons were baked into her by my ex while I was trying to numb myself in a bottle. That's on me, but I do worry about her.
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