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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 18:42:31 GMT -5
Thank you all for your opinions! It really helps me to think clearly. Half of me says I shouldn't give up yet, especially for our child, but then my other half says it's just wasting time/energy and so I have to make a plan B. @thecelt There are some good examples of international relationships, sadly ours didn't become that. Every time he uses this "our culture" card, I ask him: why the hell did he want to marry a foreign woman? But there's no answer. He had foreign girlfriends before and lived abroad too, so he experienced how complicated it can be. He could easily find a woman here who obeys without saying anything against his will. He clearly wants me to think and live like that - for the sake of my own sanity I don't want to force myself or to be forced into it. lyn He's a kind man, but his controlling behaviour can make my head hurt many times. I think if some s**t happens again, I'll just leave for a week or so and stay at a cheap hotel in the town without telling him (I've already made a plan for that last year), maybe that would make him think. Is it normal that I feel so cruel? I am sorry you are here. I don't have any wisdom to offer on top of what the other lovely members here already offered. I can only offer you my supportive thoughts and a word of encouragement to never give up on your own life and your own happiness. As much as I believe in reincarnation, I have to say, you live only once. More to the point, you are young only for a short while.
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Post by allworkandnoplay on Apr 30, 2017 22:40:54 GMT -5
Wow... Some of the things you've said. I have no words. I have read about sexual issues in Japan, but never anything like this. I hope you find advice here that helps you. You mentioned a friend who ended up divorcing. Do you have any friends IRL you can talk to?
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Post by idna on Apr 30, 2017 23:33:33 GMT -5
I am sorry you are here. I don't have any wisdom to offer on top of what the other lovely members here already offered. I can only offer you my supportive thoughts and a word of encouragement to never give up on your own life and your own happiness. As much as I believe in reincarnation, I have to say, you live only once. More to the point, you are young only for a short while. Thank you! This forum is a great eye opener for me. It felt strange to write here, but gave me comfort. And now I see our relationship isn't good or good enough at all. I'm often told that I'm still young, I shouldn't worry, I've got plenty of time. But I don't think I should spend those years like this.
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Post by idna on May 1, 2017 0:09:19 GMT -5
Wow... Some of the things you've said. I have no words. I have read about sexual issues in Japan, but never anything like this. I hope you find advice here that helps you. You mentioned a friend who ended up divorcing. Do you have any friends IRL you can talk to? I can't get in touch with her since last year. After the divorce she was attacked by almost everyone, claiming it was all her fault, how could she had an affair, her poor husband etc. She changed her number and email address and deleted her profile from every community page. The only thing I know is that she's still living in Japan. Now I only have Japanese friends. Not much help, lol. I've asked my married friends and they said they don't have sex regularly or at all, but they don't need it. They were shocked to hear I still want sex. And I'm shocked they're fine without it.
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Post by greatcoastal on May 1, 2017 5:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by idna on May 2, 2017 22:29:04 GMT -5
I think it's time for a good vent or my head will blow up...
Since the weekend I've opened my eyes, stepped back a little and observed our everyday life. H really wants to control everyone and everything. Up until today I did everything as he said. This morning I made a small mistake by forgetting a paper coffee cup on the table. After listening to comments like I can't do such easy tasks and I'm a bad wife, I said sorry and stood up to waste that cup. He said it's too late, he did it already. I just said sorry again for causing a problem. And since then, he just acts like nothing ever happened.
I'm too tired of telling him again and again: what about me doing everything around the house, cleaning after him every f*ing day because he simply doesn't appreciate my work enough to not make a mess 5 min after I cleaned the whole place? I know, this is the role of a housewife. His work is appreciated by a paycheck. What about my work? The paycheck should be at least a "thank you", but that never happens. This happens every month. What's shocking is it wasn't like this until we had a child. I have to remind him again and again, but no effect after a week passed.
We had "the talk" again too. I promised myself that this was the last one. I told him that I need him emotionally, physically, sexually. And even if it's a cultural thing in Japan, he knows I'm not Japanese, this is not normal for me and I wasn't warned about this before we got married. And now expects me to deal with it. I also told him I feel less and less attracted to him thanks to all the failed attempts and rejections. (Although I felt the urge, I didn't threat him saying I'll look for intimacy at somewhere else, because that would just backfire.)
Our marriage is getting worse and I'm tired of trying to keep everything together. I know, I shouldn't give up for my child's sake, but I just had enough. He doesn't need a wife, just a maid.
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Post by idna on May 2, 2017 22:52:34 GMT -5
More about the sexlessness: he added he can't see himself being able to have regular sex with me in the near future. He needs much more stronger stimulation than that (I posted about this here: iliasm.org/thread/675/caught-dealing-matters-hand ), and became addicted to porn. Still, if I want something I should initiate, but after hearing this - why?
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Post by baza on May 3, 2017 0:00:40 GMT -5
"We had "the talk" again too. I promised myself that this was the last one" - you say Sister idnaIf (as is extremely likely) he does nothing, or fobs you off, what are you actually prepared to do ?
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Post by idna on May 3, 2017 0:25:13 GMT -5
"We had "the talk" again too. I promised myself that this was the last one" - you say Sister idnaIf (as is extremely likely) he does nothing, or fobs you off, what are you actually prepared to do ? I have to become financially independent again, and I'm already working on it. That will take a lot of time, years actually. I have a therapist and I consult with her twice a month. I want to continue that, really helps a lot. I want to look around if there's counseling available, but I'm afraid of that, as basically I'm the black sheep here. And if there's nothing left to do, collecting information about divorce. But I shouldn't even think about it yet since I'm dependent of him.
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Post by baza on May 3, 2017 21:10:15 GMT -5
Gaining financial independence is a great idea - irrespective of whether your marriage is "made in heaven" or is an "ILIASM shithole". It is a basic responsibility of every adult.
With an appropriate plan, and discipline, you can "fix" your finances.
You can't fix an ILIASM shithole.
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Post by lyn on May 3, 2017 21:46:55 GMT -5
Please keep posting here idna. We are your friends that understand you. Have you spoken with your family about the situation at all? If you've already spoken to this here, I'm sorry, I've missed it. Speaking with your family and friends that understand you and care about you is invaluable. Don't be embarrassed. I was too embarrassed to speak the truth of my relationship to those that truly care about me for many years, now that I have, the support is amazing. Please don't short-change yourself. He is not going to change. He sounds extremely domineering to say the least. If you aren't going to, or can't, leave, you might want to find alternate avenues in your life to fulfill you - to live a life miserable and unfulfilled is just too sad to contemplate. Hugs to you sister
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Post by idna on May 4, 2017 2:00:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry, baza. I lose my mind easily when I'm annoyed. Now I see that everything I wrote has nothing to do with this. I realised that I can't fix my SM, nothing ever will. Since I'm the one going against the culture, there's basically nothing I can do. For now, I think I'll just try to befriend the thought of it, not lose myself in the process and find my happiness somewhere in it (or outside of it).
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Post by idna on May 4, 2017 2:01:26 GMT -5
lynI have mentioned it to my mother, but no one else knows in my family/friends. Just as you wrote, because of embarrassment.
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Post by seabr33z3 on May 4, 2017 2:12:23 GMT -5
More about the sexlessness: he added he can't see himself being able to have regular sex with me in the near future. He needs much more stronger stimulation than that (I posted about this here: iliasm.org/thread/675/caught-dealing-matters-hand ), and became addicted to porn. Still, if I want something I should initiate, but after hearing this - why? Your answer to him...." you know I've been thinking about what you've said and you're right. I feel EXACTLY the same way about you. I have also been feeling that I need much stronger stimulation than just you. Glad that we are both on the same page regarding satisfying ourselves in ways that works best for each of us".
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Post by baza on May 4, 2017 2:16:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry, baza . I lose my mind easily when I'm annoyed. Now I see that everything I wrote has nothing to do with this. I realised that I can't fix my SM, nothing ever will. Since I'm the one going against the culture, there's basically nothing I can do. For now, I think I'll just try to befriend the thought of it, not lose myself in the process and find my happiness somewhere in it (or outside of it). I don't pretend to know a lot about Japanese attitudes, but the *impression* I get is that it is pretty sexist and hierarchical. The chances of *you* (or any individual) winning over the hearts and minds of the nation would be pretty slim. What are the nations views on cheating ? (My impression is that for blokes it is "acceptable" - but for women ??) Is that an option ? Meantime, embracing a "hobby" of consolidating your financial position would be a good one to have a red hot go at.
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