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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 11:29:04 GMT -5
Here we hide in our corner of the web.
So the question is, do you have "in real life" friends whom you talk to or confide in about this. Or have they told you their issues. As it seems a lot of us have a public face we perpetuate that we have good marriages. As for the ones who have left their marriage, where some people surprised about the break up because you always showed that public happy face, did you share the reasons with friends etc.
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Post by JonDoe on Nov 27, 2016 11:39:35 GMT -5
I opened up to a friend years ago. His response was "So!?" It turns out that he is the refuser in his relationship. Other male friends have responded with "Join the club! We don't get as much sex as we want either, but you don't hear us whining about it." Then they changed the subject to football. I found that most guys don't care to discuss anything serious about relationships.
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Post by wewbwb on Nov 27, 2016 11:40:40 GMT -5
Yes , i have friends I've confided in. They understand and are supportive. (Their friends duh) the only surprise they have shown is that I've lived this way as long as I have.
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Post by Chatter Fox on Nov 27, 2016 12:27:13 GMT -5
I've shared with friends and relatives. It's very helpful. I highly recommend opening up to trusted people that you are close to.
The number one thing I've gotten out of it is that a truly happy marriage is hard to come by. Hearing other people's marital problems put mine in perspective. Some are having sex yet have it worse than me. Others are not having sex and still have other problems that I don't have. Few have it much better than I do overall, regardless of bedroom activity.
If I had an option to permanently switch lives with any of these friends of mine by waving a magic wand, I may actually choose to just put the magic wand in the garbage if you can believe that. It'd be amazing to have a sex life again but I'm just not sure it'd be worth the trade in the long run.
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Post by bballgirl on Nov 27, 2016 12:27:27 GMT -5
I kept it a secret for 2 decades. I was very ashamed and thought there was something wrong with me. Until I found EP and read a lot did I start to understand that it wasn't me. As well my FWB helped me to realize it wasn't me and helped me regain my confidence. Once I gained some confidence I confided with a couple of friends, one who is also in a SM. I didn't discuss it with friends who were also friends with my husband. When I told friends who we were both around and who are probably my closest friends, they were shocked. One person said - "if you guys can't make it then who can"? We put on a good enough act I guess. Never PDA but we got along well. Now we are divorced almost a year and I'm happier.
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Post by misssunnybunny on Nov 27, 2016 12:39:49 GMT -5
Opening up to friends and close family was one of the best things I did. Those I told were supportive and many remarked that I had given every chance I could to make the marriage work, so many would have left way earlier. We had kept the "happy, perfect couple" facade up so well that people who didn't--and still don't really--know were shocked when we said we were getting divorced. Interestingly, my family was supportive and understanding of the reasons behind leaving, his family all thought it would be better to preserve the marriage even without the sex. I also found it interesting to find folks in real life (not on EP, so thankful for there as it was the first place I resealed my secret), who were going through the same thing. Having the support off- and online helped so much during my exit process.
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Post by callisto on Nov 27, 2016 12:55:38 GMT -5
I have found a very mixed response from friends- infact as I have already shared with you guys, my supposed best friend just screamed at me that I would be making the biggest mistake of my life if I left my home, financial security and good husband because of sex. This conversation has remained with me and makes me shake with nerves for I wonder if this friend is a portent of my doom. It has slowed me down in gaining resolve to leave.
I wish I'd never said anything to my friends for now I keep quiet and feel estranged from them. Don't feel at all close to them any more. Ironically my absolute best friend is my spouse...
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Post by nancyb on Nov 27, 2016 14:10:23 GMT -5
I have told my therapist and 2 of my sisters. I even told my therapist about the ILIASM site to recommend to other clients. I would say the response has been shock and disbelief but I only told them this past week.
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Nov 27, 2016 16:33:29 GMT -5
Post by wewbwb on Nov 27, 2016 16:33:29 GMT -5
I have found a very mixed response from friends- infact as I have already shared with you guys, my supposed best friend just screamed at me that I would be making the biggest mistake of my life if I left my home, financial security and good husband because of sex. This conversation has remained with me and makes me shake with nerves for I wonder if this friend is a portent of my doom. It has slowed me down in gaining resolve to leave. I wish I'd never said anything to my friends for now I keep quiet and feel estranged from them. Don't feel at all close to them any more. Ironically my absolute best friend is my spouse... I am very sorry for you. That is horrible for you to deal with.
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Post by cagedtiger on Nov 27, 2016 16:57:56 GMT -5
Friends, yes. Family, not yet, as my parents with their good Christian upbringing will immediately go to something about the marriage being more about the spirit than the flesh, blah blah blah blah. Siblings, maybe eventually, but not yet.
I told my closest friends this summer, although they'd already suspected something was wrong, and noticing that I'd disappeared for a while (when the wife was at her most reclusive, and I let myself get sucked into it. Most of my closest friends, ironically enough, are divorced, and they all know what I'm going through. My best friend at work was in pretty much the exact same situation (his ex-wife only pretended to like sex to hook him and get him to stay), and he's pretty strongly encouraged me since he started getting the sense something was wrong. Add in that his girlfriend is a therapist (she's the one who suggested our current marriage counselor, though I couldn't tell my wife that, because she despises my friend and his girlfriend), and I've got a pretty strong "corner," if you will.
Not sure yet how/ when to bring it up to family, or how to do so appropriately. Parts of me still feel guilty at times for not being "content" with everything else being ok sometimes.
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Post by GeekGoddess on Nov 27, 2016 17:09:41 GMT -5
I finally told people but it took a while. For the first 2-3 years, I was complicit & agreeable to trying life w/o sex. But that approach eroded all other forms of manners & politeness & I finally found EP. After that, I started telling people (my oldest stepdaughter, my sisters some, a friend or two like neighbor & coworker). Eventually though - it was better to keep my complaint quiet while I worked out the details to leave. Just like a refuser who SAYS one thing but does another - I decided to let my actions speak for themselves & that point, talk was no longer needed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 19:22:39 GMT -5
I have very friends and no one knows. I am very affectionate and no one would believe it. People often ask if we are newly weds due to me being so demonstrative.
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Nov 27, 2016 19:51:37 GMT -5
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Post by novembercomingfire on Nov 27, 2016 19:51:37 GMT -5
Few friends. I keep this to myself as my secret shame. I don't think that anyone can offer me redemption or validation in a useful way.
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 27, 2016 20:06:41 GMT -5
New friends! I took on new friends. Like the song from Cheers, "were everybody knows your name, and they're always glad you came, and troubles are all the same".
I have found it somewhat relieving to know I am not alone, and even if my problems aren't quite the same you will be surprised at the people who whisper, "I was divorced."
Finding the SM people is not as common. Once you mention divorce , there is a lot of comfort for you out there. People stand up for you, and say, "you've been through a lot, yea but your situation is different, that is not fair at all, of course you do, that's to be expected".
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Post by baza on Nov 27, 2016 21:36:07 GMT -5
I have one friend - singular - who knows just as much about me as I know myself. We've been friends since about grade 5 at school. He has helped me through some shit times, and has shared in the great times. We've had some major blow ups over the years when one of us has been a bit too honest with the other, on one memorable occassion it became a deadly serious punch on. He has a motto - and it goes like this - - "A friend is someone who knows you really well, but likes you anyway" - I have no other friends at the same level of understanding as this relationship. I would count the next tier of "special" relationships I have where I am OK with sharing "most" things on the fingers of one hand. - - And of course, nowadays, into year 7 of my life with Ms enna, I have her in my corner, and she probably knows MORE about me than I do myself.
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