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Post by heartbroken55 on Apr 18, 2016 10:26:29 GMT -5
This is my first day on the group. I've been searching for answers to my SM for a couple of years and while googling, came upon another site which referenced this one. I'm in a really dark place today. I've been crying for most of it and haven't managed to even get out of bed today. I don't see the point. I've tried hundreds of times over the last few years to get my husband to talk to me, to tell me why he doesn't want me any more. I've been rejected too many times and I don't try to initiate sex anymore - it's too painful. I guess today I just can't take any more of it and I'm just feeling sorry for myself and the realisation that it's make or break time. I'm so sorry to ramble on. I've read what so many of you have posted and so much is ringing true with me. I didn't realise that it was such a common problem and some of the possible reasons for his behaviour. I've got no self-esteem anymore, no confidence and my spark has gone. I don't know what the answer is. Either accept it or leave I suppose. But why can't I accept it? I do still love him, but I can see now how cruel he's being. How do we cope? Because I'm not at the moment. Sorry
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Post by wewbwb on Apr 18, 2016 10:59:18 GMT -5
You are in a place that understands all you are going through. You are not alone dealing with this. I know I speak for everyone when I say we are sorry you are going through this. This is the place to let it all out. Without judgement. Stay strong and realize - that the issue is not you. There is more going on. PM me if you'd like.
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Post by heartbroken55 on Apr 18, 2016 11:10:24 GMT -5
You are in a place that understands all you are going through. You are not alone dealing with this. I know I speak for everyone when I say we are sorry you are going through this. This is the place to let it all out. Without judgement. Stay strong and realize - that the issue is not you. There is more going on. PM me if you'd like. Thank you. I don't know how to pm at the moment. I'm not a techie at all. I appreciate that most people on here are in the same boat, and I suppose it's hit me hardest reading on here that there is nothing that I can do. It's really nice to know that support is here though. I thought about marriage guidance but he's not interested...."Can't talk about that now I've got a lot on!" I'm sure I'll bounce back a bit tomorrow. But thank you for your kind words..,they mean a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:12:24 GMT -5
Acceptance or Moving On -- or Acceptance THEN Moving On -- will take time. Read and goof with the folks here. They're all friendly folk, and most are past the dismal point where you find yourself -- the point where you're starting to realize your spouse doesn't love you like you'd like to be loved.
Take a deep breath and work daily on the things you CAN change. Try not to get depressed and stop living. You don't want any new problems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:14:50 GMT -5
You are in a place that understands all you are going through. You are not alone dealing with this. I know I speak for everyone when I say we are sorry you are going through this. This is the place to let it all out. Without judgement. Stay strong and realize - that the issue is not you. There is more going on. PM me if you'd like. Thank you. I don't know how to pm at the moment. I'm not a techie at all. I appreciate that most people on here are in the same boat, and I suppose it's hit me hardest reading on here that there is nothing that I can do. It's really nice to know that support is here though. I thought about marriage guidance but he's not interested...."Can't talk about that now I've got a lot on!" I'm sure I'll bounce back a bit tomorrow. But thank you for your kind words..,they mean a lot. Even if he doesn't have time for counseling, you may consider just going by yourself. It won't change your situation (I'm afraid you're likely going to find that nothing will change that short of leaving the marriage), but it may help YOU cope with it better.
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Post by heartbroken55 on Apr 18, 2016 11:18:42 GMT -5
Thanks for that. I need to learn to cope I think. I just feel so worthless.
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Post by wewbwb on Apr 18, 2016 11:27:52 GMT -5
You're not and we can prove it.
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Post by bballgirl on Apr 18, 2016 11:33:24 GMT -5
I'm glad you found this group. I am thankful that I found it years ago. At that time I was not ready for divorce, I was still trying to get my spouse to want me, and I loved him at that time more than I loved myself. However eventually the scales tipped and I loved myself more and really saw him for who he was and how I was mistreated through the years. The level of anger and resentment I had was so toxic and there was only one choice for me. My advice to you would be to lay your cards on the table with your husband and tell him that if he can not make a genuine effort then divorce is inevitable. You don't want him to have sex with you, you want him to want to have sex with you!! See what his reaction is. Set a timetable. Find a way to accept and come to peace with not having sex with your spouse if not you will just go crazy. Start saving money, exercise even if it's just walking around the block, seek an outlet with friends even online friends like here. Figure out what will make YOU happy!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:42:19 GMT -5
First of all, take a peek at my post in the welcome section. It's called "A Post About You." It will be encouraging. Try to remember that it is completely normal to want sex in marriage. The person who does not is the one with the problem. Here is a link to the post. iliasm.freeforums.net/thread/98/postAnd if you want to look, there is a link to my blog below
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Post by bballgirl on Apr 18, 2016 11:45:32 GMT -5
Thanks for that. I need to learn to cope I think. I just feel so worthless. Do not feel that way! It is them with the problem. A sexless marriage is not normal and what is even more not normal is a spouse that is avoidant, selfish and unsympathetic to our needs and feelings. That's not normal!!
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Post by DryCreek on Apr 18, 2016 12:10:24 GMT -5
I thought about marriage guidance but he's not interested...."Can't talk about that now I've got a lot on!" Welcome to the site, unfortunately. It's the club nobody wants to join, but it does a world of good to have someone you can talk to. Nobody here is an "expert" in the official sense, but we've all got our own stories, and they have remarkable similarities. As wewbwb pointed out, counseling can be invaluable to help you cope, and perhaps identify things about yourself that you can improve - whether or not they help the marriage. Counseling cannot help you fix your spouse. Been there, tried that. They have to seek out their own help, and be motivated to action themselves. Threatening, begging, coercing him to go will not get him seriously engaged in trying to change. It is a sad reflection when you raise a concern and it gets dismissed or pushed to the back burner. Consciously or not, he's saying "this is less important than other things in my life". That may or may not be reality - people often confuse "urgent" with "important". That is, giving priority to things that are "urgent but not important" while neglecting things that are "important but not urgent". The thing that's hard for us all to absorb is that "it's not us". Not that we are innocent victims (because at points along the way we've probably fueled the situation), but for reasons most of us can't comprehend (and they don't grasp either), they've lost their desire for us. Typically, nothing we try will have an effect - and they simply can't be bothered to try. More significantly, we can't fix it by ourselves. It takes active effort on their part too, and even then only because they are motivated to do so (not under threat of divorce, etc.). Often, they either refuse to acknowledge there's a problem, or they don't care. As you've already surmised, there's no "one simple trick" that you've overlooked. The best thing you could do for the immediate is internalize is that this isn't about you, this is about him. You're not unattractive or undesirable - he's broken. Once you get past that very large mental obstacle, you can make better plans for how you're going to deal with the situation. Not all of us choose to leave. DC
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Post by heartbroken55 on Apr 18, 2016 13:05:31 GMT -5
Thank you. Wise words methinks.
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Post by misssunnybunny on Apr 18, 2016 13:38:12 GMT -5
I thought about marriage guidance but he's not interested...."Can't talk about that now I've got a lot on!" Welcome to the site, unfortunately. It's the club nobody wants to join, but it does a world of good to have someone you can talk to. Nobody here is an "expert" in the official sense, but we've all got our own stories, and they have remarkable similarities. As wewbwb pointed out, counseling can be invaluable to help you cope, and perhaps identify things about yourself that you can improve - whether or not they help the marriage. Counseling cannot help you fix your spouse. Been there, tried that. They have to seek out their own help, and be motivated to action themselves. Threatening, begging, coercing him to go will not get him seriously engaged in trying to change. It is a sad reflection when you raise a concern and it gets dismissed or pushed to the back burner. Consciously or not, he's saying "this is less important than other things in my life". That may or may not be reality - people often confuse "urgent" with "important". That is, giving priority to things that are "urgent but not important" while neglecting things that are "important but not urgent". The thing that's hard for us all to absorb is that "it's not us". Not that we are innocent victims (because at points along the way we've probably fueled the situation), but for reasons most of us can't comprehend (and they don't grasp either), they've lost their desire for us. Typically, nothing we try will have an effect - and they simply can't be bothered to try. More significantly, we can't fix it by ourselves. It takes active effort on their part too, and even then only because they are motivated to do so (not under threat of divorce, etc.). Often, they either refuse to acknowledge there's a problem, or they don't care. As you've already surmised, there's no "one simple trick" that you've overlooked. The best thing you could do for the immediate is internalize is that this isn't about you, this is about him. You're not unattractive or undesirable - he's broken. Once you get past that very large mental obstacle, you can make better plans for how you're going to deal with the situation. Not all of us choose to leave. DC All of this is so true. Please seek counseling for yourself, it was so helpful for me. We are all here for you to help. So glad you found us.
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Post by lwoetin on Apr 18, 2016 14:13:14 GMT -5
Howdy hb55. It's your first day here and it's 360x4 days for me. You can stay as long as you like to figure out what is best for you. I hope your heart gets unbroken again soon. We can help each other on our self-esteem and confidence issues. Not so sure about putting sparks in our spouses pants though. Maybe a few more years of hard labor is needed....
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Post by DryCreek on Apr 18, 2016 14:39:49 GMT -5
Not so sure about putting sparks in our spouses pants though. Battery cables. Those who've seen Mortdecai will appreciate the reference. (And if you haven't, it's a fun movie to take your mind off things.)
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