|
Post by eternaloptimism on Oct 19, 2016 12:01:33 GMT -5
I've just taken a step.
It's only tiny but a step nonetheless.
I've been reading up on enabling.
Mother fucker.
I thought I understood what enablers are.
But it's bigger than I realised. And it's me.
Omfg. I gotta a lotta work to do
a. To extrapolate myself from this stupid farce of a relationship and
b. To sort my own shit out and start respecting myself more or I'm gonna be on this not-so-merry-go-round for life. No thanks!
Aye aye aye. I always thought I was being kind and protective.
Always learning!!
Any other enablers here?
|
|
|
Post by bballgirl on Oct 19, 2016 12:39:41 GMT -5
I was an enabler because I didn't want to upset him. I avoided conflict. I enabled him to be a refuser and irresponsible with money and parenting. However I was stuck until my income went up and then when the time was right I pulled the plug. He didn't like it but tough shit, eventually the chickens come home to roost.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 14:02:16 GMT -5
I've just taken a step. It's only tiny but a step nonetheless. I've been reading up on enabling. Mother fucker. I thought I understood what enablers are. But it's bigger than I realised. And it's me. Omfg. I gotta a lotta work to do a. To extrapolate myself from this stupid farce of a relationship and b. To sort my own shit out and start respecting myself more or I'm gonna be on this not-so-merry-go-round for life. No thanks! Aye aye aye. I always thought I was being kind and protective. Always learning!! Any other enablers here? Just a warning. Enablers are easily manipulated by guilt trips. Don't fall for it when the sobbing and begging start. Especially since given what you've said so far they are likely to be followed by violence if they don't work. You may need someone else around when you tell him you're kicking him out, but however that shakes out, you have to go into cold bitch mode.
|
|
|
Post by eternaloptimism on Oct 19, 2016 14:08:37 GMT -5
I was an enabler because I didn't want to upset him. I avoided conflict. I enabled him to be a refuser and irresponsible with money and parenting. However I was stuck until my income went up and then when the time was right I pulled the plug. He didn't like it but tough shit, eventually the chickens come home to roost. Snap! Here chicky chickens!! Xx
|
|
|
Post by eternaloptimism on Oct 19, 2016 14:10:26 GMT -5
This is it exactly @phinheasgage!
I think the more I read the better prepared I'll be for his tactics.
Feeling pretty positive just now.
X
|
|
|
Post by eternaloptimism on Oct 19, 2016 14:11:41 GMT -5
Cold bitch is soooooo hard for me to pull off though @phinheasgage!
I need a practice partner!
|
|
|
Post by bballgirl on Oct 19, 2016 14:23:44 GMT -5
Cold bitch is soooooo hard for me to pull off though @phinheasgage! I need a practice partner! That is hard for me too but I did it FOR ME!! I was tired of being used!! I was very resolute, stone faced, lawyer like and robotic. It was a rehearsed monologue that I delivered effectively.
|
|
|
Post by RexCorvus on Oct 19, 2016 17:04:15 GMT -5
eternaloptimism, I had this revelation yesterday and it has hit me HARD! God bless @phinheasgage, baza, Pinkberry. They replied to one one of my posts and combined together it flipped a switch in my mind and shed light on my deep enabling. I knew I had co-dependency issues but this was a look inside on how deep the matatissis has spread. I have taken care people since I was 15 years old. It is no less a part of me than my arms or legs. It is rooted to my core. I have given everything to enable them to have an easier more comfortable life at my personal expense. Over the weekend my wife complained about being stuck in her part time jobs. So I looked at my company's open positions, to my surprise I found several that she qualified for. This would provide her higher pay, benefits like a pension, health insurance, tuition reimbursement, advancement opportunities! All of these things she complains she doesn't have. She made excuse after excuse why it wasn't practical. She wouldn't even look at them although she hates where she works because it is dysfunctional, pays shit, no benefits, no chance of promotion. I've got to get out of this marriage, and I've got to not allow myself to be taken advantage of. I've got to have this cancer removed, this enablement. ((HUGS)) eternaloptimism. I get it. RC
|
|
|
Post by Pinkberry on Oct 19, 2016 18:15:22 GMT -5
RC, thanks so much for tagging me. I love this community and cherish those who were straight with me when I needed it. I am so thrilled that I was able to contribute something useful for you.
eternaloptimism, I'm so glad that you are having revelations about how things have worked in your life. Figuring out what you don't want is such an important piece of the puzzle.
|
|
|
Post by unmatched on Oct 19, 2016 20:35:45 GMT -5
Me too, I have been reading a lot about 'rescuers' in relationships and it fits me pretty well. I tend to go for people who have issues and then support them because it is a safe and easy way of getting a sense of intimacy when underneath I don't feel like I really deserve it. So then unsurprisingly I created a marriage dynamic where I am always being supportive and my wife doesn't give me what I need. It has become very clear that whatever sense of intimacy that was is completely fake - there is no real intimacy in it at all. Because I wasn't vulnerable enough to express my needs (or even be aware of them half the time!), and because all she had to do was take.
Now, 10 years down the line, I am struggling to be supportive because everything in me rises up and screams "No, fuck off!!!", and despite now knowing what my needs are she still can't get over her intimacy-averse self enough to do anything about it.
|
|
|
Post by ggold on Oct 19, 2016 20:54:13 GMT -5
Cold bitch is soooooo hard for me to pull off though @phinheasgage! I need a practice partner! You and me both girl!
|
|
|
Post by baza on Oct 19, 2016 21:02:15 GMT -5
The "enabling" phenomena rears its' head in here in just about every post to some degree or other I believe. - It is sometimes cloaked in another name however, like "nice guy", or "giving woman" as a couple of obvious examples. - When I twigged that I was an enabler, it was one of the bitterest pills I ever had to swallow. It forced me in to confront aspects of my persona that I would rather not have. It forced me to challenge my thinking radically. It forced me to stop bullshitting myself. - I am betting that you are finding it every bit as confronting as I did Sister EO. You have my empathy.
|
|
|
Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 19, 2016 23:05:43 GMT -5
This isn't just a small step - it's really kind of huge. In my deal, we both enabled different bad behavior in each other. But I found the secret weapon - EP ILIASM. I read & learned. I understood. I came to decisions. I delivered news of those decisions & proceeded with my life. It's not murdering a marriage when it's in Self-Defense. Practice your resting bitch face & a cold, hard view of what is really happening. Steel yourself. You CAN do cold, hard bitch if that's what it takes to save yourself. I believe you can, EO!
|
|
endthegame
Junior Member
Posts: 96
Age Range: 46-50
|
Post by endthegame on Oct 20, 2016 1:40:30 GMT -5
I was a big enabler. Strange how the moment she found the divorce papers amongst my stuff she also found a job. I have changed radically, and as baz stated, it's hard. But doable. I found my anti enabling tactics started with small things. "Will you get dressed and go to the shop for me to buy chocolate?" "Of course darling dearest." To Will you get dressed and go to the shop for me to buy chocolate?" "Why didn't you buy some earlier when you were at the shops? I've just worked a 14 hour day and I'm knackered, but if your going we need some milk." Later in the relationship... "But if you leave we can't fund the kids through university!" "I will support the children emotionally, functionally and financially as best I can. What choices you make in your life are up to you." The article below opened my eyes. Then the work on myself began in earnest. (Apologies to the women, again, this article is from shrink for men but the premise is the same for both male and female." shrink4men.com/2009/01/16/the-real-reason-your-wife-doesnt-want-to-work/EO. Breathe, take your time, take stock. Being kind and caring are the best traits a human can have, and on face value you have bucket loads. Work at separating kindness from enabling habits. No hurry, your personal freedom train has already gained more momentum than you think. BTW, your part time working stoner husband can survive without you.
|
|
|
Post by tamara68 on Oct 20, 2016 3:50:03 GMT -5
I was an enabler too. Aren't we all here? It took me a long time to find strength to get away. I know I always give in too easily, but I am aware of that and fairly confident I will guard my boundaries.
|
|