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Post by wewbwb on Sept 12, 2016 19:18:59 GMT -5
Not to disagree too strongly with worksforme2 but literally, my best lovers were (and some still are) my friends. Friendship as well as lovers. What an idea! Friendship starts the communication, and we all understand how important that is. Being comfortable enough to discuss your sexual desires and not feel judged? AWESOME!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 21:06:24 GMT -5
worksforme2, for whatever reason, I felt like this relationship was progressing faster than I was ready for. I do like this man. I have some doubts about whether we are physically compatible; but if I got to know him more slowly, over a longer period of time, I might begin to want him in my life enough to figure out ways to make the physical side of things work. The problem here is that I feel rushed and overwhelmed. I'm sensing a lot of hunger in this man. Whether it's for sex only or if he has some emotional hunger as well, I can't know for sure. But I feel like he wants an awful lot from me in some way. I can't fill up whatever emptiness he has inside himself. I tried to get him to talk about his divorce and his recent past, but he would not open up. I have no idea what his ex was like, or the circumstances of their breakup. I don't need (or want) every little detail. But no information at all? In the end, I took baza 's advice and listened to my gut. My gut was telling me things were getting too intense too fast, and I felt like a small fish getting swallowed up by a larger fish. So, I put on the brakes. If he wants to continue seeing me, I would do it only if we can build things up more slowly. This is just where I'm at right now, with this particular man. I do not react to all men the same way. They aren't interchangeable parts.
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Post by itsmytime2be on Sept 12, 2016 21:19:57 GMT -5
Listen to your gut! It's telling you to back away, and you don't want to have more regrets later. I made that mistake too many years ago, and married the jerk anyway. Please don't make the same mistake I did!
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Post by adventura on Sept 12, 2016 21:39:47 GMT -5
SmartKat, you say you're not sure whether it's physical or emotional hunger, but it makes you uncomfortable. Listen to yourself, because you have amazing instincts!
If it's emotional hunger: I usually take neediness for a red flag, and I've never been wrong. Every time I've ignored my instincts about needy types because I thought I was being too hard on the guy, I've ended up in a messy, protracted split with hard feelings on both sides. You don't like to hurt people, so if this is a needy guy, you're going to find this an emotionally draining experience.
Physical hunger usually shows itself for what it is - dude just wants sex from me. Nothing wrong with that, but if you're looking for something more (from someone, not necessarily him), he'll sense it and move on when you become inconvenient - probably none too kindly. I had that happen to me, and while I knew the whole time it was just for sex (and it was some pretty good sex), the way the guy ended it was just not pleasant. We'd been sleeping together every weekend for three months, and he dumped me via email with, "I enjoy sex with you, but the emotional passion just isn't there for me when I'm with you." Totally unnecessary for him to say that - I understood, but it was just tone deaf.
Trust yourself. The point of online dating is to cast a wide, wide net and throw almost everything back. Maybe everything.
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Post by worksforme2 on Sept 13, 2016 8:31:01 GMT -5
Not to disagree too strongly with worksforme2 but literally, my best lovers were (and some still are) my friends. Friendship as well as lovers. What an idea! Friendship starts the communication, and we all understand how important that is. Being comfortable enough to discuss your sexual desires and not feel judged? AWESOME! Reading smartkats reply to my take on her update story I think I got it mostly right along the lines I was thinking. What did you disagree with?
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Post by wewbwb on Sept 13, 2016 9:03:03 GMT -5
Not to disagree too strongly with worksforme2 but literally, my best lovers were (and some still are) my friends. Friendship as well as lovers. What an idea! Friendship starts the communication, and we all understand how important that is. Being comfortable enough to discuss your sexual desires and not feel judged? AWESOME! Reading smartkats reply to my take on her update story I think I got it mostly right along the lines I was thinking. What did you disagree with? That being "friendzoned" is failure. That it happens through a lack of confidence. That is the part I disagree with. Thus my post. Friends make the best lovers. They understand us and our flaws and out desires. They support you, have your best interests at heart and don't pass judgements . If you can't have a friendship with someone, how are you going to have a relationship that lasts?
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Post by Dan on Sept 13, 2016 10:31:44 GMT -5
I have five words for you: WAY TOO SOON TO SETTLE.
Fish the pond. Sample more options. Figure out what you really want -- and what trade-offs you will accept -- as you go.
If your dream-guy walks in to your life, great. Grab him!
If not, after a while (2 years? 5 years?) you will become confident that you "know the marketplace", then you'll have a better idea of what a "good-if-not-perfect deal" looks like when you see one.
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Post by Dan on Sept 13, 2016 12:14:11 GMT -5
So, you know that I had joined OKStupid, and I had done some practice dating. ... ... I really, deep down inside, don't want to go on with this man. But I'm afraid of hurting his feelings... One more thought for you, @smartkat : Apparently, one of the things you need some practice at: being honest with yourself and the guy you've just met about how YOU feel about the relationship. "Not wanting to hurt his feelings" is NOT a sound basis for staying in a relationship! So, practice your "sorry, not so interested" speech/email/whatever... then practice in on him. "Fail fast, fail often:" you should be cycling through prospects as fast as bballgirl ... =========== Sudden, unexpected realization: "not wanting to hurt my wife's feelings" is definitely slowing me down from telling her "I want a divorce". (There are other factors why I actually prefer to wait another two years or so, but boy do I dread The Talk.) Ugh. Maybe I should listen to my own advice!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 17:46:54 GMT -5
I have five words for you: WAY TOO SOON TO SETTLE. Fish the pond. Sample more options. Figure out what you really want -- and what trade-offs you will accept -- as you go. If your dream-guy walks in to your life, great. Grab him! If not, after a while (2 years? 5 years?) you will become confident that you "know the marketplace", then you'll have a better idea of what a "good-if-not-perfect deal" looks like when you see one. Thank you, Dan. I need to hear this. I wish I could give myself so much permission not to settle. That's why I need friends like you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 20:15:02 GMT -5
So, you know that I had joined OKStupid, and I had done some practice dating. ... ... I really, deep down inside, don't want to go on with this man. But I'm afraid of hurting his feelings... One more thought for you, @smartkat : Apparently, one of the things you need some practice at: being honest with yourself and the guy you've just met about how YOU feel about the relationship. "Not wanting to hurt his feelings" is NOT a sound basis for staying in a relationship! So, practice your "sorry, not so interested" speech/email/whatever... then practice in on him. "Fail fast, fail often:" you should be cycling through prospects as fast as bballgirl ... =========== Sudden, unexpected realization: "not wanting to hurt my wife's feelings" is definitely slowing me down from telling her "I want a divorce". (There are other factors why I actually prefer to wait another two years or so, but boy do I dread The Talk.) Ugh. Maybe I should listen to my own advice! Well you know my broken record advice. Don't tell her you want a divorce. Tell her you are divorcing her. Or filing for divorce. Or moving out if there is a separation period. Whatever, say what you are going to do, not what you want.
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