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Post by wewbwb on May 6, 2016 8:22:45 GMT -5
Thank you mountainrunner - It's a process and I understand that. I just have some "abandonment" issues that I struggle with.
But the Buddhist in me asks "What is my lesson in this? What am I supposed to learn?" (maybe I am too attached to things?) An ongoing theme in my life.
Especially when someone special comes into it then leaves.
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Post by smilin61 on May 6, 2016 9:13:04 GMT -5
Gentle (((hugs))) today, my friend. I'm so sorry.
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Post by wewbwb on May 6, 2016 9:20:38 GMT -5
Gentle (((hugs))) today, my friend. I'm so sorry. Sorry- That's a banana in my pocket. (and yes humor is how I cope and she would have enjoyed that)
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Post by 3000more on May 6, 2016 17:51:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry for your loss. That's terrible. 1. You must grieve for your own good, 2. you can do it publicly and go to a service if available but just tell anyone that wants to know you were very good friends for a period of time, and how special of a person she was to you and leave it at that. 3. leave out the gory (to others) details of what all of that means to spare the poor souls left behind. You can't shove it under the rug, it will haunt you forever.
My unsolicited $.02
I wish you well.
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Post by 3000more on May 6, 2016 17:53:27 GMT -5
My Happy Place When the chips were down I needed a friend - an ear – a shoulder Without a second thought you listened You shared, you cared, and you dared I hope I helped you as much as you did me I hope I cared as much as you did I hope I gave as much as I took You smiled for me and with me Laughed with me and at me And we cried together We leaned on each other Stood strong for each other And you made me better As a person and man You gave me a place to be happy To be safe and to be me I am a better person for knowing you I know how to be a friend You taught me that and so much more The hardness you showed with many I knew was just a façade A way to hide the pain and fear I didn’t play that that game I wouldn’t let you You are you and that was enough I made you know it didn’t matter Your tough and angry talk I saw right through it and you smiled And that will have to be enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 21:44:47 GMT -5
Today is going to be a bit rough for me. Fridays is when I would usually call her and chat for about an hour or so. And then add Mothers Day and yeah, I'm feeling the loss. But again, I want to thank everyone here for their support. Allow yourself to grieve for not just the loss of a lover, but also a dear friend. We're here for you.
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Post by SweepyBear on May 8, 2016 9:31:46 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of your loss I'm sure she was a great lady and you both brought joy to each others lives
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Post by obobfla on May 8, 2016 20:16:38 GMT -5
So sorry for your loss. My FWBs have been true friends and saved me. If nothing else, I have wonderful memories of the time we spent together. Thankfully, we are still friends and occasionally chat. We have moved on as far as lovers go. Hope you cherish the memories of your time together and give others the help she gave you.
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Post by wewbwb on May 16, 2016 8:21:25 GMT -5
Thank you all for your support. I have not yet sent my poem to her daughter. I have, however, been emailing her and checking up on her. I am trying to walk the line between friendly support for a woman who just lost both parents and "creepy stalker guy".
Not really sure how I'm doing.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 24, 2016 5:22:04 GMT -5
A little background before an update.
In the post above, I passingly reference that the daughter (called C) lost both both her parents. 18 months before Fran(the mother) passed C's father passed away. Although C is 35, she is suddenly parent less, and does not seem to have the tools to cope.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 24, 2016 5:30:19 GMT -5
I spoke to C this weekend. The original plan was to meet and have lunch so we could talk. Instead, we spoke on the phone for 3 hours. It worked out better in the long run. I'm not sure that meeting with her would have helped. The last bit of background. The physical part happened about about 11 or 12 years ago. We remained friends, spoke weekly and emailed often.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 24, 2016 6:07:25 GMT -5
The call: C and I set up a time to call. Two minutes into the conversation, she is using phrases Fran used. It's bittersweet. She tells me about her uncle and How hes a dick (she curses like a sailor who drives a truck to repair shops,seriously I thought i was bad.) I listen and say, "Remember when your Dad and him had the store?" This stopped her cold. So i excuse myself and explain that I know a lot about her through her mother, the boyfriends (losers) the jobs (awesome ones) and the grief she suffered by losing her father.
I explain her uncle to her and caution her to walk lightly. (Her uncle loaned her money for the funeral, she is paying him back, but not as quickly as the uncle likes, so she got the letter from the lawyer) (told you, dick) she says "I thought of my uncle that way before"- yes me and your mom figured it out.
I said to her, "C, its got to be a bit creepy, meeting someone who knows so much about you and you don't know anything about."
She said to me "It probably would be if it was anyone else. But Mom trusted you. She didn't trust anyone. So you must be special."
So I explained her mom to her. The good and the bad. Why her parents marriage failed. Why so many people thought her mom was a bitter and angry and a heartless bitch.
And how I saw her Mom as a kind gentle fragile woman who loved completely, but was devastated by husband's leaving her. So she would push people away, that she tried that with me as well.
The difference was, I wouldn't let her push me away. (Um, I think we'll leave that for another category)
Three hours later, she asked me if I could try to stay in her life.
Yes C, I can.
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Post by misssunnybunny on Jul 24, 2016 9:57:06 GMT -5
How wonderful you were able to talk, and share memories of Fran with C. I hope it was healing and brought some comfort to both of you after such a loss, and that your future conversations with C help maintain memories and bring both of you peace.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 24, 2016 10:15:15 GMT -5
I believe that it will. She commented that talking to me was more helpful than her therapist. That she gained insight into her family that she never knew, and that she was calmest she's been in months. I am honored to be allowed into her her life. Although I did stop her when she said she would enjoy and older father figure in her life. "Whoa, slow down with that older crap, father figure sure, but not that much older!"
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Post by tamara68 on Jul 26, 2016 1:55:56 GMT -5
Wonderful for C that she has got to know you and that she too sees how awesome you are!
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