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Post by jerri on Jan 30, 2021 19:27:09 GMT -5
How it works in the U.K: Your GP texts you with your appointment, all triaged and fair and square. We are close to completing the top four categories now. The NHS may have its disadvantages, but the one system approach is handy in these circumstances. A lot of people here have been bamboozled about NHS! How do you like it? How long does it take to get in if you are really sick and what about if you a just getting a physical? Asking in real life, I hope everyone has seen a documentary.😺 ETA they took away my Hs second appointment for his second shot. Must be doing more important seniors, new hospital staff...he can have very bad asthma |
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Post by Handy on Jan 30, 2021 19:54:55 GMT -5
The first vaccines to arrive in the Union of South Africa 1 Feb 2021 and be distributed 10 to 14 days later.
“South Africa will be receiving one million doses in January and 500,000 doses in February,”
Which countries have administered the most COVID-19 vaccinations ? (scroll down to see several interesting charts)
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Post by isthisit on Jan 31, 2021 3:24:37 GMT -5
How it works in the U.K: Your GP texts you with your appointment, all triaged and fair and square. We are close to completing the top four categories now. The NHS may have its disadvantages, but the one system approach is handy in these circumstances. A lot of people here have been bamboozled about NHS! How do you like it? How long does it take to get in if you are really sick and what about if you a just getting a physical? Asking in real life, I hope everyone has seen a documentary.😺 ETA they took away my Hs second appointment for his second shot. Must be doing more important seniors, new hospital staff...he can have very bad asthma Well, misinformation about the NHS (or similar structures across Europe) within the US advantages many powerful organisations. You asked how long it takes to get care when you’re really sick. The honest answer is it does not. Ever. (Umm, this is from the point of entry of care. If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere in Scotland, that’s your own fault.) The NHS provides world class critical care. No if’s, no buts. However, you get whinging from folks who think they are really sick, but are not. People wait for elective surgery, this is true. But then if those feckless bastards stopped living off Doritos and shifted their lardy arses off the sofa now and again there would be more resources available to cut those waits down. A lot. The issue in the U.K. is two fold. Firstly the public pay beer money and have champagne taste. Secondly they are blind to the value of what they have and overlook the brilliance of what is there, and just want to whinge about what is not. Summary: it is shit hot when you need it to be, and people wait for stuff that will wait. |
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Post by petrushka on Jan 31, 2021 4:35:14 GMT -5
As far as I know nobody in NZ has been vaccinated at this point in time.
It is not clear what the heck was actually going on with the alarming case of that woman:
none of her contacts have tested positive. She is considered 'recovered'.
We're keeping a weather eye out.
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Post by jerri on Jan 31, 2021 4:56:24 GMT -5
As far as I know nobody in NZ has been vaccinated at this point in time. It is not clear what the heck was actually going on with the alarming case of that woman: none of her contacts have tested positive. She is considered 'recovered'. We're keeping a weather eye out. Why not vaccinated? Supply? |
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Post by worksforme2 on Jan 31, 2021 8:26:47 GMT -5
A lot of people here have been bamboozled about NHS! How do you like it? How long does it take to get in if you are really sick and what about if you a just getting a physical? Asking in real life, I hope everyone has seen a documentary.😺 ETA they took away my Hs second appointment for his second shot. Must be doing more important seniors, new hospital staff...he can have very bad asthma Well, misinformation about the NHS (or similar structures across Europe) within the US advantages many powerful organisations. You asked how long it takes to get care when you’re really sick. The honest answer is it does not. Ever. (Umm, this is from the point of entry of care. If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere in Scotland, that’s your own fault.) The NHS provides world class critical care. No if’s, no buts. However, you get whinging from folks who think they are really sick, but are not. People wait for elective surgery, this is true. But then if those feckless bastards stopped living off Doritos and shifted their lardy arses off the sofa now and again there would be more resources available to cut those waits down. A lot. The issue in the U.K. is two fold. Firstly the public pay beer money and have champagne taste. Secondly they are blind to the value of what they have and overlook the brilliance of what is there, and just want to whinge about what is not. Summary: it is shit hot when you need it to be, and people wait for stuff that will wait. Let's try comparing apples to apples, OK? Here in the US medical care is readily available, what ever your ailment. Most of the time one can see a physician anytime, for anything, usually within an hour of walking into their practice. And for those without medical insurance, emergency care facilities at a hospital are required to treat anyone who shows up. Elective procedures are on hold for now but before those procedures could be done within a short time, say a week or maybe two. How does that compare to the NHS. |
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Post by saarinista on Jan 31, 2021 13:14:23 GMT -5
Actually, health care in the US is not so great in my experience.
It CAN be great if you have money, transportation and good private group insurance, or Medicare/Medicaid .
If not, your selection of doctors is much smaller and access much harder.
As for emergency rooms they are only required to stabilize you enough to keep you from immediately dying. They are NOT required to treat your underlying issues. They refer you out for that. And if you can't find or afford a provider to treat the underlying issue, too bad for you.
Here's my story in that regard:
2 years ago, I broke my arm. I went to the emergency room.
Did they set the arm? Nope. They splinted it. (I could have done that at home) and gave me pain pills. 🙄. Then they gave me a list of doctors to call to finish setting it. However, none of those doctors would see me in a reasonable amount of time. Very few doctors were even on my insurance provider's list.
After 3 weeks, I ended up going to a doctor and self-paying several thousand dollars for a manual reduction, which ended up not working because the arm had already healed in the wrong position. It still hurts a lot to this day.
The doctor I went to said some insurance providers make it difficult for him to obtain reimbursement. This requires him to pay for staff time to file for reimbursement. In some cases, the staff time costs so much that it ends up eating away his profits. So I can't blame him for not accepting all insurance.
He did cut the amount he charged me off his list price, since I paid cash up front. However, since I have real insurance, it should not be this way. But it is.
My insurance is an ACA compliant policy. Alas, many doctors stopped taking it for several years because they feared it would be outlawed by the government. Who can blame them? Hopefully that will get better.
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Post by petrushka on Jan 31, 2021 13:49:52 GMT -5
As far as I know nobody in NZ has been vaccinated at this point in time. It is not clear what the heck was actually going on with the alarming case of that woman: none of her contacts have tested positive. She is considered 'recovered'. We're keeping a weather eye out. Why not vaccinated? Supply?
What I read is, they want to wait and see how the vaccines pan out in other countries.
Govt bought several million doses of different vaccines, and want to share them with the Polynesian countries. But it looks like they are hanging on to the lot just yet.
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Post by isthisit on Jan 31, 2021 14:47:21 GMT -5
Well, misinformation about the NHS (or similar structures across Europe) within the US advantages many powerful organisations. You asked how long it takes to get care when you’re really sick. The honest answer is it does not. Ever. (Umm, this is from the point of entry of care. If you choose to live in the middle of nowhere in Scotland, that’s your own fault.) The NHS provides world class critical care. No if’s, no buts. However, you get whinging from folks who think they are really sick, but are not. People wait for elective surgery, this is true. But then if those feckless bastards stopped living off Doritos and shifted their lardy arses off the sofa now and again there would be more resources available to cut those waits down. A lot. The issue in the U.K. is two fold. Firstly the public pay beer money and have champagne taste. Secondly they are blind to the value of what they have and overlook the brilliance of what is there, and just want to whinge about what is not. Summary: it is shit hot when you need it to be, and people wait for stuff that will wait. Let's try comparing apples to apples, OK? Here in the US medical care is readily available, what ever your ailment. Most of the time one can see a physician anytime, for anything, usually within an hour of walking into their practice. And for those without medical insurance, emergency care facilities at a hospital are required to treat anyone who shows up. Elective procedures are on hold for now but before those procedures could be done within a short time, say a week or maybe two. How does that compare to the NHS. I wasn’t aware that I was comparing anything. I answered a question I was asked. Had I not been asked I wouldn’t have commented. Both commercialised and socialised medical structures have advantages and disadvantages, winners and losers. Many nations operate a hybrid of the two systems and they have different advantages and disadvantages. It isn’t even a case of which system you’d prefer- we just get what’s there. In answer to your question- I have access to my GP every day with just a few hours notice. |
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Post by Handy on Feb 1, 2021 16:31:20 GMT -5
I have a Covid-19 vaccine appointment for Thursday!!!!!
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Post by jim44444 on Feb 3, 2021 19:32:38 GMT -5
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 3, 2021 19:39:37 GMT -5
Finally! Now I can safely communicate with you online!  |
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Post by Handy on Feb 4, 2021 17:09:34 GMT -5
One jab down, one to go in a month. I barely felt the Moderna poke.
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Post by Handy on Feb 4, 2021 20:26:34 GMT -5
The first dose only provides about 50 percent protection.
Infectious disease specialist Christian Ramers, MD, told ABC News that "we know from the vaccine clinical trials that it's going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine." The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) corroborates this on its site.
"It typically takes a few weeks for the body to produce T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes after vaccination," the CDC explains in its guidance. These lymphocytes are necessary to achieve immunity from the virus. "Therefore, it is possible that a person could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or just after vaccination and then get sick because the vaccine did not have enough time to provide protection."
It will take a while to be fully (95%) protected.
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Post by Handy on Feb 5, 2021 0:11:32 GMT -5
Salisbury Cathedral vaccine
Understanding what's driving coronavirus mutations | COVID-19 Special
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