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Post by idgaf96 on Oct 31, 2019 17:06:45 GMT -5
Sex at work.. hell yes!!! I will elaborate later when I have more time. Things will calm down dont let it ruin your day
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 13, 2019 18:42:38 GMT -5
From my past experience of the workplace (and the "Boys Club" attitude then prevalent), I will lay good money on the chick involved getting the boot. I don't know. With #metoo, lawyers, and women playing a more important roles in companies, things are changing. My bet is they ALL get fired. Which is probbaly what should happen if there was a violation of company policy. Things continue to unfold. The female manager trainee, has been relocated. Still employed with the company. She basically went back to her original job, and had only been at our location for 2 weeks. The female manager of our location, is fired and will not be returning. The male manager, (not actually a 'manager' but head mechanic) gets to stay...for now. ( some say, it's a lot harder to find a head mechanic than it is a store manager) Business has gone way down, things are a mess! The rest of us find ourselves daily wanting our successful manager back, and have a very distant ,angry, attitude towards our mechanic. We work very little with him, but work around him daily. We are still barely tolerating our old manager trainee who was sent back to fill in. ( you have to question and correct most everything he does) Slow days with little to do, and no one gets sent home. Time will tell.... Meanwhile I do my best to continue to 'find work to do' including going above and beyond my own responsibilities. And continue the notion that " the less I know the better".
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Post by baza on Nov 13, 2019 19:08:05 GMT -5
Must admit that when I first heard this story ( your 26th October 2019 thread Brother greatcoastal ) I thought of all the salacious details for several minutes then promptly forgot all about it. The update is interesting, and as is usually the case, the chick gets the arse it seems. I'll have probably forgotten it all again by lunchtime today. But there's probably a couple of things to take away from it all. #1 - the cheating option sure can spin things off at weird tangents. #2 - unless they have a dog in the fight, stories of sexual impropriety don't hold peoples attention for long.
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Post by ihadalove on Nov 14, 2019 9:16:28 GMT -5
I'm going to buck the trend and say who cares? You mention how it will affect the company, but the only reason it has an affect on anyone is because of people who can't mind their own business. The US is very stuck up when it comes to sex in general. If it was me getting interviewed by HR about something like this, I wouldn't have a thing to say about it.
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Post by idgaf96 on Nov 14, 2019 12:48:30 GMT -5
Sex at work.. hell yes!!! I will elaborate later when I have more time. Things will calm down dont let it ruin your day I've been guilty of sex at work. I had a fling with one of the top bosses at my old job. He was safe to play with as I knew he had as much to loose as me. It was fun and no one knew. It also led to perks for me as he made his whole sales crew cooperate with me and my sales skyrocketed. I had a couple other bits of fun while I was there. I am sure a couple guys talked but I didnt really care. I had fun and no trouble came of it. I also knew what my limits were and got a good feeling of them before I ever went there. I had 1 occurence where a colleague got jealous of my sales numbers and made accusations but they were basically laughed at by upper management because well I was with him also and he thought he was the only one. God that job was fun.
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Post by ScottDinTN on Nov 15, 2019 0:04:52 GMT -5
So, here's a hypothetical, if there was no threat of losing your job, would you pursue relationships more at work? Or would just the drama alone be enough to steer clear.
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Post by baza on Nov 15, 2019 3:06:42 GMT -5
I've always found it pretty challenging to do a decent job of being in one relationship.
Pursuing an additional relationship would most likely see me fuck up both of them.
So I'd pass.
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Post by h on Nov 15, 2019 7:05:24 GMT -5
So, here's a hypothetical, if there was no threat of losing your job, would you pursue relationships more at work? Or would just the drama alone be enough to steer clear. Work is the only other place I see adults. Once I'm finally free of this SM, I would definitely be open to starting a relationship with a co-worker. I'm in a unique place though, where I don't have any risk of losing my job over it. As long as the two individuals act professionally during the work day, there's no policy against it. (If the sex actually takes place at work, they fire you immediately and you'd likely end up arrested.) Whatever takes place outside the work setting, they don't get involved in unless it causes issues within the work setting. Several couples have gotten married while working here and still work together. The only policy they have is that if one spouse is in a position of authority, they have to find another supervisor to conduct work performance evaluations. That said, I'm not really the outgoing type and wouldn't actively pursue a relationship with a co-worker. I'm confident that I could manage to be professional at work, but I'm just not going to seek it out. I don't think it would be good for a relationship to be around each other that much.
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Post by DryCreek on Nov 15, 2019 10:29:54 GMT -5
So, here's a hypothetical, if there was no threat of losing your job, would you pursue relationships more at work? Or would just the drama alone be enough to steer clear. Even in the world of being single, it risks bringing personal drama to your place of work and affecting your livelihood. And if it doesn’t go well, how many times can you repeat the experience? How could a soured relationship affect your work? Would the relationship affect your career paths? Could it interfere with a promotion? Or if one was promoted would it force the other to change jobs? However... work is where you spend 40 hours a week with other adults. It is perhaps the greatest opportunity to build deeper connections and thoroughly vet someone before a relationship comes to play and sex clouds your objectivity. If not for the potential land mines, those are strong positives. Question is... can you find a similar situation that doesn’t commingle with your employment? Or is the nature of your employment such that you can easily change it if things go badly? (I can’t.)
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 15, 2019 11:33:12 GMT -5
So, here's a hypothetical, if there was no threat of losing your job, would you pursue relationships more at work? Or would just the drama alone be enough to steer clear. The drama factor continues to affect the whole workplace. The ripples from the ripple effect, keep happening. I , personally, would have been more than happy to take the approach" what you do after hours ,and with whom is none of my business". However ,such an approach has strings attached. Mainly, once IT DOES affect business, trust, respect, promotions, favoritism, rumors, gossip,speculations, etc...things go downhill quickly. The firing, which is out of the hands of the rest of us employees,has a very strong 'short term' effect.( possibly long term) Another coworker spoke with me yesterday telling me about the pictures and stories that the female manager trainee shared with him. Pictures of her and the head mechanic at the beach together. Pictures of them at his son's soccer game. Where was the head mechanics wife? I don't know. I guess, home with the baby? What did the coworker think about this? He said," I would notice it from the day she started here, I spotted it right away. I would see them together ( he comes in second shift, right near closing time) and they acted like 8th graders together. She's a crazy, woman! And I have not had to deal with the mechanic any. I was also here when the head mechanics wife showed up! She was one angry _itch! And had every right to be!. Now I look over my shoulder every night, wondering if she will show up again as long as he continues to work here". Our next concern that we shared together is, what if we get more women to take their place, and our head mechanic is still here? On a side note- our existing manager trainee (the one who was not coming back) has managed to bring everything to a slow standstill. Corporate sent another manager from a much larger store and he had things up and back to running in half a day!
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Post by catsloveme on Nov 15, 2019 11:47:50 GMT -5
Our next concern that we shared together is, what if we get more women to take their place, and our head mechanic is still here? This reads to me as though you are placing all of the blame on the woman involved in this. And in any potential woman who would assume the same workplace role. Why? The head mechanic involved is just as culpable.
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 15, 2019 14:49:35 GMT -5
Our next concern that we shared together is, what if we get more women to take their place, and our head mechanic is still here? This reads to me as though you are placing all of the blame on the woman involved in this. And in any potential woman who would assume the same workplace role. Why? The head mechanic involved is just as culpable. Yes, I can see how it could read that way, ( not my intention) my concern is what another woman will be confronted with by our head mechanic. Just having to deal with his reputation, and the gossip that spread about what it is like 'working' with him. I have already seen women coming in to be interviewed. That pleases me! Will they be told " This is our head mechanic, you will be working with him. He and our last manager, and comanger where all having sex together?" Would a male manager be as concerned about it? Then their is still the 'unknown'...did the 2 women involved pressure, come on to, hit on, the head mechanic? Or was it the other way around? Who incorporated it? Was it a 3 some? ....All things that I really don't want to know about. Just the fact that the head mechanic gets to stay, makes me wonder if the company would be reluctant to have any more women work at our location? That is so wrong!! ( The female manager who was fired, her boss is female) Our female manager got an A+ from all of the employees, and whatever happened with the affair seemed to not affect anyone, while it was happening. The negativity came after the fact. it leaves a low respect and trust level that had not been there before. Including the way, us men feel about our head mechanic. The firing of one and the allowing the other to stay ,leaves all kinds of speculation of what the future will be like.
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Post by catsloveme on Nov 15, 2019 15:10:54 GMT -5
This reads to me as though you are placing all of the blame on the woman involved in this. And in any potential woman who would assume the same workplace role. Why? The head mechanic involved is just as culpable. Yes, I can see how it could read that way, ( not my intention) my concern is what another woman will be confronted with by our head mechanic. Just having to deal with his reputation, and the gossip that spread about what it is like 'working' with him. I have already seen women coming in to be interviewed. That pleases me! Will they be told " This is our head mechanic, you will be working with him. He and our last manager, and comanger where all having sex together?" Would a male manager be as concerned about it? Then their is still the 'unknown'...did the 2 women involved pressure, come on to, hit on, the head mechanic? Or was it the other way around? Who incorporated it? Was it a 3 some? ....All things that I really don't want to know about. Just the fact that the head mechanic gets to stay, makes me wonder if the company would be reluctant to have any more women work at our location? That is so wrong!! ( The female manager who was fired, her boss is female) Our female manager got an A+ from all of the employees, and whatever happened with the affair seemed to not affect anyone, while it was happening. The negativity came after the fact. it leaves a low respect and trust level that had not been there before. Including the way, us men feel about our head mechanic. The firing of one and the allowing the other to stay ,leaves all kinds of speculation of what the future will be like. Ah. Okay. Thanks for the further explanation about your concerns. Frankly, my policy is to just go to work, do my job, and fly under the radar. I know what my “chain of command” is for addressing anything that affects me, and try to ignore any drama that crops up. Since this is an SM discussion forum, do you think your experience in your SM has affected how you view the current workplace drama? (I guess I’m a little curious about your starting this thread. No malice intended in this comment. I’m just curious about the connection between SM and the workplace drama, as you see it.)
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 15, 2019 15:56:10 GMT -5
Since this is an SM discussion forum, do you think your experience in your SM has affected how you view the current workplace drama? (I guess I’m a little curious about your starting this thread. No malice intended in this comment. I’m just curious about the connection between SM and the workplace drama, as you see it.) My SM experience most likely affected my take on what happened. Probably different from my coworkers. In fact I find myself bringing up " what if's" that most of them would not have considered. 1) Mr. Head mechanic. 4 children , a new baby, met his wife in H.S. Always an arrogant, over confident, must have the last word type personality. Take that and put in a spouse who puts their sex/intimacy way on the back burner and everything is ( has been ) about the children. Especially a new baby! Do you think much sex was happening during the 9 months pregnancy? ( all of this is pure speculation on my part. From what little I observe from a distance) What if he was not getting his 'needs' met at home? Is he a player, and has he been cheating his entire marriage? ( we don't know) Is this the only time anything like this has ever happened? 2) Mrs Manager. No children ( rumor is a miscarriage) a workaholic, worked her way up the company ladder, her H is also employed and works with children. She seems to get her self esteem from her job. What if she was not getting her 'needs' met at home? Was she a victim of a SM from her H? Who turned this into an 'opportunity'? 3) is their alcohol, drugs, money ,or past traumatic experiences involved in all this? Lastly, I wanted to share 'the ripple effect' that can occur. Either in a workplace or in a family. Even though these traumatic events can seem hopeless,mistakes are things to learn from. Even others mistakes that we feel the effects from.
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Post by Handy on Nov 15, 2019 16:08:50 GMT -5
The down side that I see in work affairs is the potential for favoritism. Like Idgaf96 posted It also led to perks for me as he made his whole sales crew cooperate with me and my sales skyrocketed.
A long time ago work was considered an acceptable place to meet potential dates and as long as the people were approximately in equal power positions, most employers were OK with employees dating and doing what ever off the job.
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