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Post by LITW on May 23, 2016 10:02:57 GMT -5
Sorry, but you all need to do some SERIOUS research. Many women. myself included, still have a strong and healthy libido post menopause. in my case, 11 years post menopause. Why do you think they make and market Estrace and Premarin vaginal cream? I am deeply saddened by the misinformation and ageism and sexism presented in this thread. I am 5'7", 135 fit pounds and have the stamina and energy of many 40 somethings. I wish I could like this post more than once!!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 13:31:36 GMT -5
whoa people, I think we're being a little too sensitive. So the guy isn't attracted to women past a certain age, that doesn't mean YOU are not attractive. It's no different than a woman not liking short guys or another attribute he has no control over. I wouldn't say a woman is "too old to be attractive," because if she's hot, she's hot. I however wouldn't light a guy on fire if older women were not his thing. I will say I don't buy the OP's claim of being ok with his situation, because why would he be here otherwise. You don't go looking for a support group if your not in need of support. But our very content opposite land members, baza and phinheasgage, are here. Are they here for support too? @phinheasgage and baza, lay on the couch and tell us the real reason you guys are here... When I first joined EP I was not a content escapee. I was still married. Then the whole SM topic just got too depressing and I left for a while. But once I was divorced and had some emotional distance I came back. This is a wonderful community and I think people at any stage of the journey can learn from and get support from each other.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 14:45:25 GMT -5
whoa people, I think we're being a little too sensitive. So the guy isn't attracted to women past a certain age, that doesn't mean YOU are not attractive. It's no different than a woman not liking short guys or another attribute he has no control over. I wouldn't say a woman is "too old to be attractive," because if she's hot, she's hot. I however wouldn't light a guy on fire if older women were not his thing. I will say I don't buy the OP's claim of being ok with his situation, because why would he be here otherwise. You don't go looking for a support group if your not in need of support. But our very content opposite land members, baza and phinheasgage, are here. Are they here for support too? @phinheasgage and baza, lay on the couch and tell us the real reason you guys are here... The escapees still have a lot to share with everybody else. And, they may have some lingering needs for this community, even after they are out of the SM. I wouldn't have liked it if I had been kicked out of this group in January - when I got out.
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Post by ModCasper on May 23, 2016 18:50:36 GMT -5
I think the discussion of menopause should move to its own thread in the "Resources" board.
I'm not going to move individual posts; anyone is free to start it, and even repost what they posted here.
I think we need to be a little more tolerant that there is a lot of "not up-to-date info" out there on the web. Please be patient if you feel you have "more up-to-date info" than the next guy. Just back up your views with as many citations as you can.
I give the men here who looked up ANYTHING about menopause SERIOUS props... even if they found outdated stuff. Seriously, where do you find that in the general population?
ALSO: everyone has their own experiences. If all the post-menopausal woman that a given guy knows is no longer interested in sex, it is what it is. It is not an affront to women who still DO have a libido after menopause, or at any point over 50 years old.
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Post by unmatched on May 23, 2016 19:00:49 GMT -5
ALSO: everyone has their own experiences. If all the post-menopausal woman that a given guy knows is no longer interested in sex, it is what it is. It is not an affront to women who still DO have a libido after menopause, or at any point over 50 years old. I would like to second this bit. I still find it hard to look at a woman over 35/40 and believe she is actually interested in sex, just because it is not part of 'normal' social interaction and the one woman I do know intimately of that age has no interest at all. Spending time here has done a lot to change that perception, but I think there is still a bit of a jump for me to make in real life.
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Post by angryspartan on May 23, 2016 19:21:32 GMT -5
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Post by obobfla on May 23, 2016 20:08:19 GMT -5
I have already posted a link about Ben Franklin saying that older women are better lovers. I agree with Ben. Yes, little girls are cute. But then they open their mouths and talk. It's not that they lack knowledge. They lack insight and experience.
I relate better to older women. They feel ashamed of their scars and stretch marks, but to me the marks are badges of honor. The biggest moment of my life was becoming a parent. I want a partner who understands how special that is. I have been corresponding with a lovely lady who is a grandmother. Love to hear her talk about her grandchildren.
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Post by ggold on May 23, 2016 20:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 20:42:27 GMT -5
ALSO: everyone has their own experiences. If all the post-menopausal woman that a given guy knows is no longer interested in sex, it is what it is. It is not an affront to women who still DO have a libido after menopause, or at any point over 50 years old. I would like to second this bit. I still find it hard to look at a woman over 35/40 and believe she is actually interested in sex, just because it is not part of 'normal' social interaction and the one woman I do know intimately of that age has no interest at all. Spending time here has done a lot to change that perception, but I think there is still a bit of a jump for me to make in real life. That woman I mentioned in the thread about communicating that you're interested, she was in her early fifties and she had me for lunch.
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Post by skguy on May 30, 2016 19:18:22 GMT -5
Sorry, but you all need to do some SERIOUS research. Many women. myself included, still have a strong and healthy libido post menopause. in my case, 11 years post menopause. Why do you think they make and market Estrace and Premarin vaginal cream? I am deeply saddened by the misinformation and ageism and sexism presented in this thread. NI am 5'7", 135 fit pounds and have the stamina and energy of many 40 somethings. I have to agree with omixochitl and the other women who have commented on this post. Pre, post-menopause,etc. If a woman was attracted to me, and me to her, I would make love to her at any age. No matter the age, I think there would always be a passion between the right two people. No matter the age. If the chemistry is there, I would do all kinds of naughty things with a woman older then me. If we're both into it, lets enjoy ourselves.
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Post by Rhapsodee on Sept 17, 2016 11:23:29 GMT -5
Sorry, but you all need to do some SERIOUS research. Many women. myself included, still have a strong and healthy libido post menopause. in my case, 11 years post menopause. Why do you think they make and market Estrace and Premarin vaginal cream? I am deeply saddened by the misinformation and ageism and sexism presented in this thread. I am 5'7", 135 fit pounds and have the stamina and energy of many 40 somethings. Ditto I'm 56, healthy, very fit, 12 years into menopause, and I LOVE SEX.
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Post by Rhapsodee on Sept 17, 2016 11:36:12 GMT -5
All women over 50 are not alike. All women who have gone into menopause are not alike. All men are not alike. Some find women over 50 attractive. Some do not. IMHO, it's difficult to change who you feel that spark of attraction for. So, no judgment from me on anybody, for who they do or do not find attractive. Just be tactful about expressing your preferences, that's all I ask. BRAVO!
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Post by adventura on Sept 17, 2016 11:38:16 GMT -5
Sorry, but you all need to do some SERIOUS research. Many women. myself included, still have a strong and healthy libido post menopause. in my case, 11 years post menopause. Why do you think they make and market Estrace and Premarin vaginal cream? I am deeply saddened by the misinformation and ageism and sexism presented in this thread. I am 5'7", 135 fit pounds and have the stamina and energy of many 40 somethings. Ditto I'm 56, healthy, very fit, 12 years into menopause, and I LOVE SEX. Same here, only 58, kinda fit, 9 years into menopause, and I LOVE SEX. Desire level hasn't budged either way since I was 18. Physically I take a little longer to get going but results are reliable. As I type this, my Vivelle transdermal estrogen patch is stuck to my belly tighter than a tick. You can take it away from me if you're willing to pry it from my cold dead fingers.
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Post by Rhapsodee on Sept 17, 2016 11:57:36 GMT -5
Ditto I'm 56, healthy, very fit, 12 years into menopause, and I LOVE SEX. Same here, only 58, kinda fit, 9 years into menopause, and I LOVE SEX. Desire level hasn't budged either way since I was 18. Physically I take a little longer to get going but results are reliable. As I type this, my Vivelle transdermal estrogen patch is stuck to my belly tighter than a tick. You can take it away from me if you're willing to pry it from my cold dead fingers. I'll fight tooth and nail to keep my femring! When my GP told me that I should get off HRT, I said NO. My mother used the patch until my father died. She was 65. My gynecologist says I can stay on it as long as I have no medical issues.
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