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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 10, 2018 19:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 21:55:16 GMT -5
Not bad, not bad. It does not have a question I would ask, " what was sex and intimacy like in your previous marriage?" Maybe save that question for the second date, GC. Just sayin’. ;-)
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Post by baza on Feb 10, 2018 22:14:57 GMT -5
I am reminded of an Australian "artiste" (Kevin "Bloody" Wilson) who's amusing stand up / musical act poses some highly pertinent questions for a gentleman to ask a lady. Without his permission, or even his knowledge I reproduce the opening verse and chorus of one his highly sophisticated and deeply meaningful songs called "Kev's Courting Song"
Blown too much of me time Buyin' Dinner and Wine And me money on flowers and lollies Only to find That what's on me mind Isn't on hers and she's sorry So I've made up some lines That save wastin' time And keep me from blowin' me brass I'm ever so cool I just prop on me stool Right next to hers and I ask
Do you fuck on first dates Does you Dad own a brewery Could I feel Your tits Or would you show 'em to me Cause you've got a nice head And you look pretty honest So me face'll be leavin' in quart of an hour I'd like you to be on it
There's more, and I can only imagine how keen you all are to see more of Kev's romantic offerings. You could google him.
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 10, 2018 22:17:24 GMT -5
Not bad, not bad. It does not have a question I would ask, " what was sex and intimacy like in your previous marriage?" Maybe save that question for the second date, GC. Just sayin’. ;-) Yea, I'd probably know a lot about that already in communicating on line before meeting face to face. The face to face part seems more like a date. What did you think of those questions?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 23:09:43 GMT -5
Yep! Good questions to ask. I just wouldn't ask that last one right out the gate. If someone asked me that on a first date, it would also be our last date. But that's me!
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Post by choosinghappy on Feb 10, 2018 23:34:55 GMT -5
"Many of our divorce clients swear they had no idea how young or old their spouse was until after they were engaged."
Who the hell doesn't know how old their partner is until they agree to marry him/her??
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Post by DryCreek on Feb 11, 2018 2:06:47 GMT -5
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 11, 2018 7:48:02 GMT -5
"Many of our divorce clients swear they had no idea how young or old their spouse was until after they were engaged." Who the hell doesn't know how old their partner is until they agree to marry him/her?? That reminds me of the times I would come home from my Divorce recovery class and tell myself, "and I thought I had problems! Yea, there is some crazy stuff out there!"
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Post by northstarmom on Feb 11, 2018 9:40:21 GMT -5
Questions I asked on my first date, a date that occurred 5 years ago with my post sm lover whom I just enjoyed an early Valentine’s Day with at a hotel in our town. We’d met 4 years before in a theater troupe but didn’t know each other well. By the end of the date I knew he was a guy I enjoyed hanging out with at least as platonic friends which was fine as I have and welcome male platonic friends. Didn’t know about sexual chemistry. Wasn’t ready to check that out yet and he didn’t push. Our theater troupe contains adult humor and has mixed gender dressing rooms so I was fairly sure he wasn’t a sexual prude.
1. How long have you lived here? Where are you from? What was it like growing up there?
2. How long have you been in the theater troupe and why did you get involved?
3. Where did you go to college and what was that like?
4. Do you have a spiritual path?
5. What kind of work do you do and what do you like about it?
6. Have you been married? Have kids? When and how did last relationship end?
By the end of the date, I knew he met my criteria for being at the least a person I’d enjoy as a friend. This included his having the following attributes:
Openness. He comfortably answered my questions about his life. By contrast, my ex would get a deer in the headlights look in response to my questions.
He had longtime friends whom he had maintained close relationships with. By contrast, ex had no real friends and said he was happy without them.
He liked women. His friends included women (including one with ms and indistinct speech as well as a wicked sense of humor).
He had liked and admired his mom who had died when he was 20.
He was resilient - was able to make the commencement speech at his college weeks after his mom died.
He had had long term romantic relationships and was able to view them without bitterness as learning experiences.
He shared my values in terms of politics and spirituality and also had hobbies in that both of us enjoyed.
He didn’t seem desperate.
It was a good start for further exploration, which is what we did with casual, spaced dates (due to our mutual busyness and lack of desperation) over the next few months. Had sex 3 months later after at my request he got tested.
I don't think that everyone should use the questions I used. But I do think that everyone should ask during their first date about things that are very important to them -- things that indicate whether their date has similar values. I do think it's OK to bring up sexual intimacy to weed out those who are too prudish to even talk about having sex or who think that romantic relationships should only include companionship.
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Post by northstarmom on Feb 11, 2018 10:26:36 GMT -5
""Many of our divorce clients swear they had no idea how young or old their spouse was until after they were engaged."
Who the hell doesn't know how old their partner is until they agree to marry him/her??"
And now one can Google and find out lots of info about prospective dates. I think anyone who does not do this is making a mistake unless they already know the person reasonably well.
Heck, even prospective employers do that.
Given the dangers that women can face from men it's especially important for women to Google before dating someone particularly someone met via the Internet. Good idea to also check the person's social media.
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Post by WindSister on Feb 11, 2018 10:32:14 GMT -5
Everybody has their list of preferences, deal breakers, red flags. Know YOURS well. It's a good idea to have a list of questions in mind to help reveal things.
There's no one "correct path" to a happy relationship. Some people meet here while both are still married and go on to live happily ever after. Some say wait till you got your shit sorted out. Blah...blah.
Just know yourself well. Really well. Be open to love if she comes along but don't be blind.
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Post by WindSister on Feb 11, 2018 10:33:53 GMT -5
Social media is so revealing. I loved my husband's, it was non existent, mostly.
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Post by northstarmom on Feb 11, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5
"Everybody has their list of preferences, deal breakers, red flags. Know YOURS well. It's a good idea to have a list of questions in mind to help reveal things. "
Yes! View the date as an opportunity to find out if the person is a good fit for your preferences. Don't go in viewing it as a chance for you to contort yourself into being what they like. Be your authentic self while learning about who they are. If you aren't what they want, great, that leaves you free to find someone who'll be delighted with who you are. If they aren't what you want, move on even if you meet their dreams. If they close down become evasive or get offended when you ask about things that are important for you, they aren't a good fit for you.
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Post by WindSister on Feb 11, 2018 10:56:14 GMT -5
""Many of our divorce clients swear they had no idea how young or old their spouse was until after they were engaged." Who the hell doesn't know how old their partner is until they agree to marry him/her??" And now one can Google and find out lots of info about prospective dates. I think anyone who does not do this is making a mistake unless they already know the person reasonably well. Heck, even prospective employers do that. Given the dangers that women can face from men it's especially important for women to Google before dating someone particularly someone met via the Internet. Good idea to also check the person's social media. I googled one man after our third date and I was shocked (and so turned off) by what I found. He had actual news articles written about him as being a horrible grocery store owner, a whole community hated him, nasty divorce, charges filed from his ex, restraining orders, practically kidnapping his kids. Omg. He didn't reveal any of that to me and had good answers to my questions. He talked nicely about his ex to me, for instance...the usual different paths story. Big contrast from the news article! If your divorce makes local news, um, there's something more there. I didn't go out again with him. Innocent, wrongly accused, whatever, (if he was, doubt it) I just knew I didn't want to join that circus show. lol
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Post by northstarmom on Feb 11, 2018 11:05:12 GMT -5
"I googled one man after our third date and I was shocked (and so turned off) by what I found. He had actual news articles written about him as being a horrible grocery store owner, a whole community hated him, nasty divorce, charges filed from his ex, restraining orders, practically kidnapping his kids. Omg. He didn't reveal any of that to me and had good answers to my questions. He talked nicely about his ex to me, for instance...the usual different paths story. Big contrast from the news article! If your divorce makes local news, um, there's something more there. I didn't go out again with him. Innocent, wrongly accused, whatever, (if he was, doubt it) I just knew I didn't want to join that circus show. lol"
Sounds like the guy is a sociopath. Good example of why to Google before the first date and if something like the above comes up, don't go on the first date.
Again: Googling before dating especially is important for women because women are at risk of getting raped or killed by dating the wrong guy.
Of course, women or men could get scammed, too, by a dating partner, but women in general are the ones who face the greatest physical risk by dating the wrong person or even giving the wrong person their address.
Reminder for women: If you only know someone from the Internet, drive your own car to the date, and tell a friend where you're going.
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