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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:00:19 GMT -5
Oh @feelingrejected I'm so sorry to find you here, but welcome! I don't know how things work in Brazil but in Tennessee it sure seems the mother often has the upper hand in custody arrangements. What this means is if the mother decides she wants majority custody she usually gets it. My wife's former sister-in-law actually decided to give her ex full custody and only sees her kids the classic 4.3 days a month. (Every other weekend, the deal many dads get in TN.) My daughter has a friend who gets to see each divorced parent every day. One drops her off at school and the other picks her up. I don't trust my wife to be so nice to me. She gives very little as it is. I have been advised by friends here to see a lawyer to get the update on custody trends and I am working on a plan to do this soon. As far as I'm concerned, she can keep the house, the cars, the money and especially all the piled up stuff. I just want to see my kids at least 50%. When my kids were still 2 I would never have considered divorce, but as they get older it starts making more and more sense. Hi itme! Here in Brazil the mother often has the upper hand in custody arrangements too, but knowing my husband (and as he is a lawyer) he will do everything to have at least 50% of custody... At the moment I'm not thinking so much about the house or money, my major concern is to do the best to my daughter and I believe that the divorce things will be easier while she is still young. Thank you for your words
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Post by shamwow on Sept 7, 2017 13:04:22 GMT -5
Oh @feelingrejected I'm so sorry to find you here, but welcome! I don't know how things work in Brazil but in Tennessee it sure seems the mother often has the upper hand in custody arrangements. What this means is if the mother decides she wants majority custody she usually gets it. My wife's former sister-in-law actually decided to give her ex full custody and only sees her kids the classic 4.3 days a month. (Every other weekend, the deal many dads get in TN.) My daughter has a friend who gets to see each divorced parent every day. One drops her off at school and the other picks her up. I don't trust my wife to be so nice to me. She gives very little as it is. I have been advised by friends here to see a lawyer to get the update on custody trends and I am working on a plan to do this soon. As far as I'm concerned, she can keep the house, the cars, the money and especially all the piled up stuff. I just want to see my kids at least 50%. When my kids were still 2 I would never have considered divorce, but as they get older it starts making more and more sense. The custody arrangement I have is the typical 1st 3rd 5th weekend of the month (Friday-Sunday with dinner one night during the week), but with a twist. In Texas, that type of arrangement is called "Standard Possession" (I know, sounds like the kid's got the devil in them). My arrangement is called Expanded Standard Possession. It is the usual 1st 3rd 5th but my "weekend" starts Thursday night and I get the kids to school on Monday. On my "off" weeks, I still get them Thursday evenings and get them to school Friday morning. In 2017, they will either wake up or go to bed at my place 51% of the time (I added up the days). My ex will have them wake up or go to bed at her place 77% of the time. Yes, I know that doesn't equal 100% but many days they wake up at one house and go to bed at another. I would have preferred one week on one week off since I think it's simpler for everyone to understand, but my ex said she would "fight me" which meant scorched earth and I didn't want to put the kids through that. Also, my daughter is almost 17 which means she gets to pick what she wants in a year or so. My son is 13 1/2 and will be able to do the same in 4 1/2 years. I honestly wish it would have been 50/50, but with the amount of time left as well as her need to "win" to avoid a custody battle where only the kids lose? This was an acceptable compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:24:45 GMT -5
shamwow I'm laughing hard here about your standard possession comment. 😂😂😂 Well, for me the custody has to be something good for both parents and the kids. Sometimes is hard to find this balance
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Post by DryCreek on Sept 7, 2017 13:42:40 GMT -5
@feelingrejected, yes... the hole we dig is also known as "the ties that bind" (and not in the fun way).
Beyond the emotional impact, it gets harder to break free. First, it's our families' expectations, then our circle of friends, then kids, a house, assets, retirement plans, health conditions... and our alternatives become fewer.
As we go, it becomes much less black-and-white to make the break. It is never a good time, but sooner is always easier. The hole gets deeper with time, even without the emotional factors.
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Post by shamwow on Sept 7, 2017 14:16:41 GMT -5
shamwow I'm laughing hard here about your standard possession comment. 😂😂😂 Well, for me the custody has to be something good for both parents and the kids. Sometimes is hard to find this balance I totally agree. Perhaps the hardest thing to come to grips with post-divorce is that you will not have access to your kids 24/7. At first, it is hard dropping them off with mom (or in my case, my daughter driving both of them over) knowing I won't see them for up to a week. They are teens, and as I'm sure you know, teens aren't the best at communication, so sometimes I don't even hear from the via text as they live their lives. I would imagine it is hard for my ex-wife, but she isn't very talkative. For me, that is the hardest part about custody, and would be no matter what the arrangement is. However, I do continue to involve myself in my kid's activities. For example, last night wasn't "my" night, but I brought him to baseball practice. I will go to my daughters activities and events as well. Sometimes I will go with my ex wife, sometimes by myself. Sometimes she will be by herself at events. It just depends upon timing. But we will both try to make sure our kids know that both mom and dad love them, even if they no longer love each other. Oh, and today is Thursday. One of the benefits of the divorce is that we have established new traditions. Every Thursday evening when I have them, we rotate cooking for each other. This week is my daughter's turn. We will go shopping when I get home, and we often invite over some of their friends. I actually pay them for cooking ($2 per head) so they not only learn how to cook, but the value of work. Now, to be a good parent is work. It takes effort. It isn't just picking the kids up and letting my daughter text on her phone and son play video games (pretty much what mom does). But it is my responsibility to be the best dad I can be. And the divorce actually gives me some opportunity to do this without their mom constantly telling me that they are not ready to handle things.
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Post by McRoomMate on Sept 7, 2017 18:16:49 GMT -5
@feelingrejected So much very good advice and experience already in this thread. What more can be said?
Courage and Welcome!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 7:59:22 GMT -5
DryCreek I think you are so right... it is NEVER a good time, cause it will never be easy! We will always have something "important" at the moment to deal with - kids, money, family - and at the end we forgot to think about ourselves. Yes, I'm aware of what you said about sooner being easier and I intend to get out of my hole before it gets too deep. Thank you again for your advices 😘
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 8:08:50 GMT -5
shamwow I have so much to learn with you! I just think amazing how you're dealing with your kids after the divorce and I'm sure want to be a mom as good as you're a dad. I think one of the biggest challenges after the divorce is to make them know that the love we feel for them doesn't change. They will only have an extra house but mom and dad will be there as always. Thank you for sharing your experience and show me how we can live after the divorce
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 8:21:17 GMT -5
itme of course I can do it for you! Lol I'll be posting my thoughts about those phrases here as soon as I can 😘
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 8:22:41 GMT -5
@mcroommate thank you!
Yes, so many good advices! 😊 I'm so grateful for all of them. You guys are awesome
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Post by shamwow on Sept 8, 2017 8:47:18 GMT -5
shamwow I have so much to learn with you! I just think amazing how you're dealing with your kids after the divorce and I'm sure want to be a mom as good as you're a dad. I think one of the biggest challenges after the divorce is to make them know that the love we feel for them doesn't change. They will only have an extra house but mom and dad will be there as always. Thank you for sharing your experience and show me how we can live after the divorce My experience is that they don't have any trouble understanding that both their mom and I love them. It takes a LOT to break that bond. Even an affair won't necessarily shake that (that is what my lady ballofconfusion had to go through and it was OK in the end). Kids are very self centered. As long as they understand that both mom and dad love them and will continue to be in their lives it is mainly a matter of addressing their "me me me" concerns. Hmmm...it might be a good idea for me to share this information in the Resources section. Anyone interested in this? My ex and I actually worked through the conversation we were going to have with them. We came up with the most likely questions and some answers. The answers tended to be "layered" meaning that we gave them a minimal answer and if they were satisfied with that we left it at that. If they had a follow up we had a little more information. We made sure to take turns so that it wasn't just one of us explaining this to them. It also helped us when the other got a bit choked up. By the end of the conversation believe it or not we were even cracking a few jokes (seriously we were). It was a serious discussion but it wasn't a complete meltdown by the kids. Now the way I did this is announce divorce to my wife in January and we had the talk with the kids in April. That gave her and I time to come to grips with things before bringing the kids in. I also bent over backwards to make it an amicable divorce. If your husband and you currently kind of get along I cannot recommend this enough. Divorce is hard enough but it IS possible for two basically decent people to go through it without traumatizing the kids. One thing to keep in mind. My kids are older than yours. You might want to get more specific advice for younger kids. But the basic advice is the same. If you and your husband are decent to each other during the divorce then it is likely you will be decent ti each other after and if mom and dad don't love each other but are decent to each other you are setting a better example by leaving than by staying until it completely falls to pieces. At least that's my take. Or you can just get the Gracie family to choke your worthless husband's ass out . Please tell me you know who I'm talking about. IMHO that entire family is a national treasure of Brazil. Royce has choked me out personally.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 15:16:54 GMT -5
Thank you so much flashjohn. I'm glad I'm here too and all of you are giving me the support I need now... I've been reading all comments to my post with tears in my eyes cause I never expected to experience a SM or a divorce in my life... I was the fool girl that always thought the marriage would last forever and now all I want is to do what I think will be the best for me and my daughter. I'm feeling so grateful for all advices I'm getting ❤️ Please don't think you are a fool. You went into marriage with the best of intentions, just as we all did. You have been trying as hard as you can to endure a horrible situation. You are a wonderful person. And now you have new friends who can walk your path with you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 15:18:05 GMT -5
Or you can just get the Gracie family to choke your worthless husband's ass out . Please tell me you know who I'm talking about. IMHO that entire family is a national treasure of Brazil. Royce has choked me out personally. Ok that is really cool.
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Post by tirefire on Sept 8, 2017 18:21:38 GMT -5
Hey there, feelingrejected. You have new friends around the world that understand. My kids are as bit older but I have the same thoughts and concerns. Be glad that you aren't dealing with feelings of wasting decades of your life. You are young. You will get to a better zone and be happy. Welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 11:34:21 GMT -5
itmeAbout those phrases in Portuguese: Eu te amo = I love you It means I like you, I care, you are very important to me, I like to spend my time with you... well, what I'm trying to say is that phrase is the strongest expression for you to say to someone. It can be said to people of your family, friends and of course, your partner, but in that case we avoid to say it in vain and only if we really mean it. Eu te quero = I want you It is used more in sexual contest, but it can be used as a synonym of "eu te amo" Eu te desejo = I desire you Sexual contest only Eu preciso de você = I need you Hmm that's a hard one. I believe it means the same as in English. It's used in Portuguese to tell someone how important the person is, that we need him/her in our life. Você ilumina minha vida = you light up my life That phrase is not largely used around here, except in poems and songs. It's a romantic approach. Você me dá asas para voar = you give me wings to fly Not used at all. Lol. Is it used in English? Você é a menina dos meus olhos = you're the apple of my eyes An very old expression, from my grandparents time... no one uses it anymore. The following phrases are used just like in english Você é a razão da minha vida = you're the reason of my life Não sou nada sem você = I'm nothing without you Não posso viver sem você = I can't live without you Não consigo parar de pensar em você = I can't stop thinking about you Você é o mundo pra mim = you mean he world to me Com você tudo fica melhor = with you everything is better Quero passar a minha vida te amando = I want to spend my lifetime loving you Você é tudo pra mim = you're everything to me
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