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Post by eternaloptimism on Mar 30, 2017 23:38:41 GMT -5
She's making me nervous!
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Post by leifericson on Mar 31, 2017 7:30:16 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. I find it hard to believe that she is not scheming for an advantage. Get a good lawyer and protect yourself, your assets and you relationship with your kids.
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Post by greatcoastal on Mar 31, 2017 7:46:32 GMT -5
Here in America announcing "I wan't a divorce" can lead to extreme economic calamity. If you don't have an attorney to have the legal papers ready to deliver to them by a Sheriff the next morning, their is no telling what they can do with all your combined assets, and the children. Way better to be prepared, instead of backtracking. However it does show their selfish, controlling, behavior. But it's still legal without an attorney to get things frozen, and the advice of staying in the house and not taking the children out of state.
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Post by Copernicus on Mar 31, 2017 9:28:15 GMT -5
UPDATE - THE NEXT DAY Thank-you all for the wonderful supportive comments and excellent advices. Very helpful and encouraging. Just to be sure things were not going to be difficult going forward I asked her "what if I date other people, will you not be upset and jealous?" You know what my Wife did. You will not believe it. She started laughing at me. She said I could date whoever I wanted and was laughing. I wonder if she already has a lover or something. Hmm. Also tonight she had one of her work friends (a lady co-worker) come over and they drank wine and talked in the kitchen. She seemed quite happy and relaxed. Let your STBX play her manipulative games - you can't control what she does. But you can control not responding to them in the way she wants; you can choose not to give her your power. Once she realizes she's having no effect, that's when the claws will come out and she'll start getting nasty. Just focus on you, friend. Nothing else. Just you!
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Post by Apocrypha on Mar 31, 2017 10:11:23 GMT -5
Just to be sure things were not going to be difficult going forward I asked her "what if I date other people, will you not be upset and jealous?" You know what my Wife did. You will not believe it. She started laughing at me. She said I could date whoever I wanted and was laughing. I wonder if she already has a lover or something. Hmm. Also tonight she had one of her work friends (a lady co-worker) come over and they drank wine and talked in the kitchen. She seemed quite happy and relaxed. I totally believe this. McRoomMate, it takes a long time to get the knack to stop engaging in a death spiral of dysfunction. I know that while my romantic interest in Mrs Apocrypha has been corrupted beyond recognition, I do still retain the hurt feelings around my life with her. People have well trodden patterns in their dance. So, your question about whether she will be jealous or upset would reasonably be interpreted as you being invested in her answer, or even as you hoping she will be hurt. Don't chum the water. You've removed the expectation of presenting as a married couple from the gameboard, so she's now expressing contempt through threatening your access to children and by literally mocking your interest in what she thinks. The theater in the kitchen with her work friend is likely part of this tableaux that goes beyond mere insouciance. You are going to date other people. So is she. In fact, you both likely feel a screaming urgency to do so immediately, if not to somehow make this all worth it. You are both likely to get on the divorce diet, hit the gym, change your hair and get with whatever programs you wish you'd done years ago, and likely your feelings will both be hurt by it. Whomever you both date next will seem to the other like they are getting the better versions of you. The "what if?" and "how will you feel?" questions are moot. You don't know how you will feel and neither does she. How could either of you? All that matters now is how you will proceed and the level of care and respect with which you treat each other, and just as in marriage, you can only control your half of that. She will continue to be who she is. It's a tough period to be in the house together, even if it's simply a lame duck situation - much worse when there is true contempt. Exercise caution and legal prudence. She seems highly motivated to humiliate you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 15:43:15 GMT -5
McRoomMates wife may not believe that he is truly leaving.
By her actions, she is treating him like a teenager. Oh sure, you're leaving. Have fun, etc..
Her life continues on, while you're saying that you're leaving. I'll be curious to see if her demeanor changes the day you move out.
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Post by McRoomMate on Mar 31, 2017 19:04:01 GMT -5
Thank-you again for all the comments.
Today I announced I would be moving out to an apartment. We are over in Europe and not even married here. Our assets are separate. Anyhow, she already has all the assets in her name. She is the one with all the money.
In terms of children, we already agreed I see them every 2 week-ends. I will probably drive one of them to school on a regular basis. I am moving out about 10 miles from our home. In all honesty, she has a much better relationship with our children than I do.
We also work at the same company and are on the management team. I talked about the divorce with the other executives and everyone is comfortable that we are separating. We have real business interests and are to a serious extent mutually dependent on each other in this business. So there is a "balance of power". She is very smart business wise and a very successful woman. if she were to attack me and try to destroy me, it would hurt the business. I am not worried because of this mutual balance of power in the business.
I think this will go pretty smooth frankly. I am comfortable with the above. I appreciate everyone's input.
Even if a Dooms Day scenario and she has some secret plan to destroy me - which I highly doubt because it would be against her interest - Whatever I may lose in this process is worth it. Such is the price of Freedom.
As a Mod British Singer was wailed "I will die with my hands untied." So be it. But I am not worried.
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Post by leifericson on Mar 31, 2017 19:37:00 GMT -5
People often do things against their interests. Just look at voting patterns in America. People can become irrational and be illogical. Keep your powder dry and stay alert.
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Post by shamwow on Mar 31, 2017 19:54:38 GMT -5
People often do things against their interests. Just look at voting patterns in America. People can become irrational and be illogical. Keep your powder dry and stay alert. Ha! Voting Patterns in America. The scary part is that both parties are out to get our ass!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 20:11:55 GMT -5
Wow - good for you for getting over that important hurdle.
Like a couple of other posters, I don't trust her. But if she cares about the business and her career, maybe that will keep her in check.
I know it feels weird. There's no other word for it. But you will get through this.
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Post by mrslowmaintenance on Mar 31, 2017 20:15:59 GMT -5
Thank you for keeping us updated!! This is so interesting, I honestly am in shock, I can't imagine your emotions. Dreamlike?
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Post by McRoomMate on Apr 2, 2017 15:13:45 GMT -5
Thank you for keeping us updated!! This is so interesting, I honestly am in shock, I can't imagine your emotions. Dreamlike? Emotions are one minute stable - the next minute shooting up - Elation / Sadness / Stable - whirling around. I get a little doubt thoughts and then stand my ground - I have analyzed, prayed, meditated, researched - I never did so much soul searching in all my life - probably more soul searching these last 3 months than my whole life. I am looking at an apartment tomorrow that is just right price and distance. She told me tonight - it is none of her business - and MY decision so go out and make it quick - I have to move out Everything that is mine - she wants nothing of me remaining in the house. She said it was painful enough so make it quick. Anyhow, W is generally in good spirits but it probably has not hit yet. I estimate to be moved out in the next 2 weeks - I am out of town on business this week. She is out of town next week. I will probably sign for the apartment tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 15:30:37 GMT -5
Although you say it was good talk all I saw was her laying the groundwork that is was all your fault and she will make sure your kids have limited access to the horrible person who destroyed the family. "Why can't I see dad"? "HE left us because HE doesn't love US" -
the minute your out on your own and free l wouldn't let the blame or or access stand.
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Post by McRoomMate on Apr 2, 2017 16:48:53 GMT -5
Although you say it was good talk all I saw was her laying the groundwork that is was all your fault and she will make sure your kids have limited access to the horrible person who destroyed the family. "Why can't I see dad"? "HE left us because HE doesn't love US" - the minute your out on your own and free l wouldn't let the blame or or access stand. Fair points and appreciate it. Well I may be out the door but only 15 minutes away. I expect turbulence and emotional suffering for the short term. We still work together at the same company and it is a small business and all equity holders / management team are 100% aware my plan was to resign but she and the other partners talked me in to staying as my leaving would hurt the company. Any how obviously not out of the woods yet in fact just started the walk thru the very dark part indeed. SITUATIONAL AWARENESS is the order of the day and weeks / months to come - it will get worse before it gets better. I know this and appreciate you reinforcing it.
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Post by csl on Apr 2, 2017 16:54:52 GMT -5
Although you say it was good talk all I saw was her laying the groundwork that is was all your fault and she will make sure your kids have limited access to the horrible person who destroyed the family. "Why can't I see dad"? "HE left us because HE doesn't love US" - the minute your out on your own and free l wouldn't let the blame or or access stand. Fair points and appreciate it. Well I may be out the door but only 15 minutes away. I expect turbulence and emotional suffering for the short term. We still work together at the same company and it is a small business and all equity holders / management team are 100% aware my plan was to resign but she and the other partners talked me in to staying as my leaving would hurt the company. Any how obviously not out of the woods yet in fact just started the walk thru the very dark part indeed. SITUATIONAL AWARENESS is the order of the day and weeks / months to come - it will get worse before it gets better. I know this and appreciate you reinforcing it. And ^^^^THIS is what will work in your favor. She can't be the one to crab up the company by going full Elvira Gulch on you, or it will come back to bite her financially.
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