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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 16:58:41 GMT -5
Stbx has sent a Christmas wish today with biblical texts. "Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests." - Luke 2:14 "Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,." - Acts 3:19 "A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed." - Proverbs 11:25 It annoys me enormously. He knows I don't believe in God and the bible. But since he saw it coming that I would leave him, he suddenly turned to this again and uses God to give his lectures to me a little more power from above. Constantly nagging about being a good Christian. Just reply - a person who uses gods verse as a tool for manipulation is no Christian. Shame on you.
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Post by waiting4what on Dec 26, 2016 0:49:25 GMT -5
Stbx has sent a Christmas wish today with biblical texts. "Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests." - Luke 2:14 "Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,." - Acts 3:19 "A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed." - Proverbs 11:25 It annoys me enormously. He knows I don't believe in God and the bible. But since he saw it coming that I would leave him, he suddenly turned to this again and uses God to give his lectures to me a little more power from above. Constantly nagging about being a good Christian. You could send him this: "The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." - 1 Corinthians 7:3-5
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 5:48:43 GMT -5
You could send him this: "The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." - 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 I think that could be an appropriate answer if I would be religious, but I am not. And I can't support the idea of someone else holding authority over my body and I certainly don't want stbx's body anymore anywhere near me. I think it is not a good idea to use bible verses to make a point or to hide behind. Even if I was religious, I am sure it would not help me at all to send any quote. He is very well capable of twisting everything around. This particular verse would confirm to him that Satan has tempted me and (as he has told me often) I don't have any self-control. (That is why he needs to control me, obviously.) (with 'he', I mean stbx lol) So, I think I will use my limited self-control to not respond to him.
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 5:49:39 GMT -5
Just reply - a person who uses gods verse as a tool for manipulation is no Christian. Shame on you. I have learned that any reply makes things worse. I am going to let it go.
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 6:03:55 GMT -5
Today is the day for good news and great Joy! All those scripture references apply to you , in your favor! Gods favor rests with you, acting against your STBX prideful ,knowingly harmful acts. You have behaved far more Christ like in a manor that has been far to forgiving , kind, giving, gracious, loving, for far to long. We are all sinners, all it takes is the faith the size of a mustard seed to be accepted by God. It's a free gift, your welcome to take it. You are a generous person! You are prospering, and you are refreshing others, and will continue to for the rest of your life! Your STBX is the one who needs to stop being a false believer, (his actions prove that) and apply these truths in his own life. He needs to remove the log from his own eye, and not worry about the speck in yours! He strongly reminds me of the Sadducee's, and pharisees that Jesus rebuked against the strongest. Thank you, I appreciate it. I don't share your belief, but I respect yours. I am glad that for you it is a a good way to live and to express your warmth and compassion.
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 26, 2016 7:52:12 GMT -5
Just reply - a person who uses gods verse as a tool for manipulation is no Christian. Shame on you. I have learned that any reply makes things worse. I am going to let it go. A wise choice. my MIL was famous for throwing scripture at people. Notice I said, "throwing it at them", that's just the way she came across, using it for manipulative control. Saying it as she non-stop blabbered on all about herself, filling letters and cards with it, etc... but not living it! Well,,,,that backfired on her every-time! Like the Pharisees tried on Jesus. P.S. Your welcome at anytime to take the scripture reference out of it, take the words God,and Jesus ,out of it and use it for what so many people find helpful in their daily life, "good sound principles, truths, references, to live by." Part of ",taking the high road" is having to start treating him as a person you are doing business with. Nothing more. The most you might need to tell him as a response, "I will speak to you, only when you are ready to listen." My STBX has been giving me these cold, rude, self-righteous, greatings. "Hello, bye, I'm leaving, good night, Merry Christmas, etc...." as she is already out of the room and facing the other way. I have stopped responding. I will speak to her when she stands still, faces me, and speaks to me in a respectful manner, showing, she is ready to stand there and listen. It's her problem, not mine. This from the same person, who will stop one of our children and tell them, 'Hey, where are you going? Don't walk away from me when your speaking to me or when I speak to you, you apologize to me, that's very disrespectful". Oh the hypocrisy!!! Your STBX continues to show his true, weaknesses, and makes things far worse for everyone. You and I need to make a short ,list of subjects to ask our attorneys, "how much of this is useful information for you? How much detail do you need? How much is this costing me? Am I hurting myself by not informing you about it?
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 8:01:40 GMT -5
A wise choice. my MIL was famous for throwing scripture at people. Notice I said, "throwing it at them", that's just the way she came across, using it for manipulative control. Saying it as she non-stop blabbered on all about herself, filling letters and cards with it, etc... but not living it! Well,,,,that backfired on her every-time! Like the Pharisees tried on Jesus. P.S. Your welcome at anytime to take the scripture reference out of it, take the words God,and Jesus ,out of it and use it for what so many people find helpful in their daily life, "good sound principles, truths, references, to live by." Part of ",taking the high road" is having to start treating him as a person you are doing business with. Nothing more. The most you might need to tell him as a response, "I will speak to you, only when you are ready to listen." My STBX has been giving me these cold, rude, self-righteous, greatings. "Hello, bye, I'm leaving, good night, Merry Christmas, etc...." as she is already out of the room and facing the other way. I have stopped responding. I will speak to her when she stands still, faces me, and speaks to me in a respectful manner, showing, she is ready to stand there and listen. It's her problem, not mine. This from the same person, who will stop one of our children and tell them, 'Hey, where are you going? Don't walk away from me when your speaking to me or when I speak to you, you apologize to me, that's very disrespectful". Oh the hypocrisy!!! Your STBX continues to show his true, weaknesses, and makes things far worse for everyone. You and I need to make a short ,list of subjects to ask our attorneys, "how much of this is useful information for you? How much detail do you need? How much is this costing me? Am I hurting myself by not informing you about it? I think I am not even prepared to speak with him anymore. I have given that up quite some time ago. I have tried that a lot of times but never ever, my message came across. And always his message was that I had to be thought a lesson. I forward everything to my lawyer. And this week I will discuss things again. That will be indeed a list of things to ask like you write, on how to handle this business.
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Post by wewbwb on Dec 26, 2016 11:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by wewbwb on Dec 26, 2016 11:48:03 GMT -5
tamara68You are smart, beautiful, kind, caring and compassionate. (And sexy also) Do not ever ever ever forget that.
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 12:12:45 GMT -5
thank you wewbwb I'll try to remember that
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Post by wewbwb on Dec 26, 2016 12:15:42 GMT -5
thank you wewbwb I'll try to remember that You don't have to. It's why you keep me around. I won't let you forget it.
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 12:20:37 GMT -5
thank you wewbwb I'll try to remember that You don't have to. It's why you keep me around. I won't let you forget it. Thank you sexy man please stay around
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 26, 2016 16:15:24 GMT -5
Stbx has sent a Christmas wish today with biblical texts. "Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests." - Luke 2:14 "Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,." - Acts 3:19 "A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed." - Proverbs 11:25 It annoys me enormously. He knows I don't believe in God and the bible. But since he saw it coming that I would leave him, he suddenly turned to this again and uses God to give his lectures to me a little more power from above. Constantly nagging about being a good Christian. You could send him this: "The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." - 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 This is a great piece of scripture/advice to look forward too! Not to be wasted on a narc. manipulative controller like tamara68's STBX. This reminds me of simpler days when it felt so easy ,so natural to give your own body, and equally receive your partners! Now it's such a freakin' battle just to discuss my STBX's disrespectful, rude, dishonest, detached antics that she openly displays in front of the family. So looking forward to the healing time and being divorced so I can freely offer myself again without the excess baggage of being married. (like being divorced, having 6 teens, and 'unemployed at this time' isn't enough baggage.)
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Post by tamara68 on Dec 26, 2016 16:25:34 GMT -5
You could send him this: "The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." - 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 This is a great piece of scripture/advice to look forward too! Not to be wasted on a narc. manipulative controller like tamara68's STBX. This reminds me of simpler days when it felt so easy ,so natural to give your own body, and equally receive your partners! Now it's such a freakin' battle just to discuss my STBX's disrespectful, rude, dishonest, detached antics that she openly displays in front of the family. So looking forward to the healing time and being divorced so I can freely offer myself again without the excess baggage of being married. (like being divorced, having 6 teens, and 'unemployed at this time' isn't enough baggage.) You have enough to look forward to, even with your baggage. There are treasures in your baggage too.
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 26, 2016 16:33:33 GMT -5
This is a great piece of scripture/advice to look forward too! Not to be wasted on a narc. manipulative controller like tamara68's STBX. This reminds me of simpler days when it felt so easy ,so natural to give your own body, and equally receive your partners! Now it's such a freakin' battle just to discuss my STBX's disrespectful, rude, dishonest, detached antics that she openly displays in front of the family. So looking forward to the healing time and being divorced so I can freely offer myself again without the excess baggage of being married. (like being divorced, having 6 teens, and 'unemployed at this time' isn't enough baggage.) You have enough to look forward to, even with your baggage. There are treasures in your baggage too. Thank you dear!! Honestly I have zero% re-assurance of that for now. Just hope. Probably why I am on here as much as I am for now. Hopefully, I am one who helps others, as I continue on my own journey for HOPE.
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