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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 3, 2020 5:16:36 GMT -5
Like everyone else I have a bit of insomnia every now and then. Mine is mostly getting to sleep not staying asleep. So I keep a bottle of Melatonin in the med cabinet. It's an otc supplement, inexpensive, and non habit forming. The one drawback is that it also lowers Estrogen levels. And since we all need a little Estrogen I don't take it unless I just gotta get some sleep.
Missing sleep is usually due to my animal. When there is thunder and lightning she gets all ginned up and will not leave me alone. She has to have my attention and comfort. 2am, 3am 4am, doesn't matter to her. And guess what we have a lot of in the summer.
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Post by lessingham on Aug 3, 2020 5:31:57 GMT -5
Forgotten what a good night's sleep is
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Post by Handy on Aug 3, 2020 11:43:06 GMT -5
Lots of people say they would never use a CPAP, too confining. It takes a bit of getting used to it but it helps me sleep like a rock once I get to sleep. I wouldn't be without mine.
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Post by saarinista on Aug 3, 2020 22:56:12 GMT -5
That's a good move. CPAP machines can't be romantic.
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Post by Handy on Aug 3, 2020 23:04:48 GMT -5
Padgemi, best wishes on the dental device. I hope it helps. If it doesn't do the job go and use the CPAP. You would be surprised how many people have them.
I was going to a weight loss group and discovered how many men and a few women use A CPAP (or an up graded BPAP)
I talk to women where the H uses a CPAP and most understand or get upset the H skips using his CPAP. Many women worry about their H having more severe medical conditions because he isn't using the device.
OTH if the woman doesn't like the man she might resent the CPAP.
Once people get to a certain age, most have physically less than perfect conditions so a healthy life is more important than a few medically necessary aids.
I will admit to being concerned the hose thing and the mask looks like a serious hospitalized client. But fighter jet pilots all wear similar face gear and an up tight looking suit. If you consider the difference between you and a fighter pilot, at least you don't have to wear that funny suit and a helmet.
I am in an age group where women had a H die on them. Most would be grateful to have their H back if he only had to wear a mask with a hose.
Point two, if a woman doesn't respect that you are taking care of your health and the mask bothers her, then you don't need her and should end the relationship.
Me, I would date a woman with several medical issues she had in the past as long as we were compatible and got along well. OK, I have some limits but as people age, perfection becomes less important.
Anyway cuddle up for a while if the opportunity presents its self and later don the mask and stay healthy.
Nor wearing the CPAP mask puts more stress on your heart, increases the CO2 and decreases the O2 in your blood, makes for a lousy sleep and restoration. I cut 1 or 2 hours off my nite-time sleep requirements and actually feel more rested in the AM sleeping less, so wear/use the equipment as prescribed, you will be healthier.
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Post by saarinista on Aug 3, 2020 23:42:25 GMT -5
I get it if it's medically necessary. But on the first few dates?
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Post by saarinista on Aug 4, 2020 0:48:23 GMT -5
I get it if it's medically necessary. But on the first few dates? On any date its needed. It’s so weird to me it’s such a big issue to some people. Oh and I just remember one more. Its such a non-event I'll take your word for it. Fortunately, I don't need one. I just take benadryl now and then. |
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Post by Handy on Aug 4, 2020 1:54:42 GMT -5
Benadryl and a CPAP don't have much in common. Obstructive sleep apnea: This occurs when the muscles in the back of your throat relax. These muscles support the soft palate, the triangular piece of tissue hanging from the soft palate (uvula), the tonsils, the side walls of the throat and the tongue. When the muscles relax, your airway narrows or closes as you breathe in. You can't get enough air, which can lower the oxygen level in your blood. Your brain senses your inability to breathe and briefly rouses you from sleep so that you can reopen your airway. This awakening is usually so brief that you don't remember it. The CPAP maintains a little air pressure to inflate the airway so it doesn't close. A side benefit is No more snorting, no more stop breathing, more oxygen to the blood and lower blood co2 levels. No waking up to pee 5 or 6 times a night among a few other negative things. You might snort, choke or gasp. This pattern can repeat itself five to 30 times or more each hour, all night, impairing your ability to reach the deep, restful phases of sleep. The signs and symptoms of obstructive and central sleep apneas overlap, sometimes making it difficult to determine which type you have. The most common signs and symptoms of obstructive and central sleep apneas include: A. Loud snoring B. Episodes in which you stop breathing during sleep — which would be reported by another person C.Gasping for air during sleep D.Awakening with a dry mouth E.Morning headache F.Difficulty staying asleep (insomnia) G.Excessive daytime sleepiness (hypersomnia) H.Difficulty paying attention while awake I.Irritability J waking up to pee
I had: A. Loud snoring (major for me) B. Episodes in which you stop breathing during sleep — which would be reported by another person (major for me) My stop breathing count was almost every minuet or about 60 times an hour. Not good I think normal is 10 to 20 times an hour, so some is normal.
C.Gasping for air during sleep (major for me)
D.Awakening with a dry mouth (minor for me) E.Morning headache (minor for me) F.Difficulty staying asleep (insomnia) (major for me) G.Excessive daytime sleepiness (hypersomnia) (minor for me) H.Difficulty paying attention while awake (minor for me) J waking up to pee (major for me)
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Post by isthisit on Aug 15, 2020 15:16:14 GMT -5
The device I have been issued is an “mRNA appliance,” which is relatively new technology, and is potentially corrective. Apparently, it trains your jaw to adopt a new position, less obstructive to night time breathing. You can use it in addition to CPAP or potentially in lieu of. For me, 3 nights off the CPAP and slept through the last 2 mostly uninterrupted. Also getting “NightLase” therapy: they’re taking a laser to the back of my throat. This stuff ain’t cheap! Hope it works... But already, the ability to get a night’s sleep w/o the hoses and power cords and my face in a sling is fabulous! Good luck with your treatment itme . For what it is worth I would have no problems at all if my Mr Wonderful needed to strap on a CPAP mask post night time intimacy. I guess I would be grateful that he was taking care of his health and preventing the risks associated with sleep apnoea such as deadly heart attacks in otherwise healthy middle aged people. I guess you could look at this pesky necessity as a nice filter for the integrity of your special someone. I have a hidden disability which is unlikely to kill me but is in the pain in the bum territory. I use this as a filter to detect shallow men who clearly do not like me enough to navigate around the nuisance value of my condition. Hereby avoiding wasting my time and energy on men I am not compatible with. |
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Post by Handy on Aug 15, 2020 22:30:06 GMT -5
Isthis it
I have a hidden disability which is unlikely to kill me but is in the pain in the bum territory.
As I read your post my mind went to "what if it was normal for people listed their disabilities and things they do not like instead of all the positive / attractive things, in their dating profile on places like Match.com.
Things like "knees wore out from working too hard, carbs (commonly called a beer) gut, CPAP, sudden urges to use the toilet, mild cataract condition, loss of hearing and etc. How many people might respond to our individual profile.
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Post by isthisit on Aug 16, 2020 16:41:20 GMT -5
Isthis it
I have a hidden disability which is unlikely to kill me but is in the pain in the bum territory. As I read your post my mind went to "what if it was normal for people listed their disabilities and things they do not like instead of all the positive / attractive things, in their dating profile on places like Match.com. Things like "knees wore out from working too hard, carbs (commonly called a beer) gut, CPAP, sudden urges to use the toilet, mild cataract condition, loss of hearing and etc. How many people might respond to our individual profile. It would take more than those things to put a quality woman off you Handy . And that cataract thing could have it’s advantages 😉. For me how do you think “gets knackered at the drop of a hat” would go down? |
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Post by Handy on Aug 16, 2020 20:57:58 GMT -5
Isthisit
“gets knackered at the drop of a hat” would go down? The first thing that came to my mind was afternoon naps and.........., well you know what I might be implying  . My second thought was maybe Isthisit could use a CPAP device. That is how some CPAP users think. It is the same mental process as little kiids have. If the kid has a hammer then s/he thinks a lot of things need hammering. In adult auto mechanics with a fancy-dancy expensive diagnostic piece of equipment, almost every car needs to be diagnosed by the expensive tool. I forgot to mention my support/compression socks. The plus side is I can easily ride my bike 15 miles or 25 miles if my butt didn't go to sleep. On a 25 miler I take several breaks, problem solved.  Do I still qualify for the imaginary dating pool even if I am 106 years old? JK: I am not 106 YET. Back to “gets knackered at the drop of a hat.” Well for me I can keep going and the “gets knackered at the drop of a hat” sounds like my W. I usually stay awake and keep going but when I do get in bed, I am out like a defective light bulb. Thunder rarely wakes me up. So maybe our individual traits would make a decent / good combination.
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Post by isthisit on Aug 17, 2020 0:23:09 GMT -5
Well Handy I wish CPAP would help with my problem, but alas it would be no use. Unfortunately there is not any treatment, I just have to navigate around the ongoing fatigue. I have learned to live with it and it doesn’t stop me doing much, but I usually have to take a different path to get there. I hope it’s okay to say, but I seriously doubt that I have much in common with your wife. You however? Sure we would make a compatible match I reckon 😉. |
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Post by Handy on Aug 17, 2020 1:11:47 GMT -5
Isthisit
I have learned to live with it and it doesn’t stop me doing much,.....
That attitude is what I like and try to practice. I like that trait in a person, WTG.
Some days I write down several things I would like to accomplish on that day. It helps me to get out of the dumps (negativity and depression like feelings) and at least start a project or something that needs to be accomplished.
For me fatigue or not being motivated is sometimes the reason I put off doing things. The mini-list helps me most of the time. If I stick to my mini-list I am OK. What screws up the works is getting side tracked. Today I used the vacuum cleaner I haven't used for 5+ years to vacuum (hoover up in some country's jargon) some cat litter. Half way through the process the vacuum's bag was getting full. I also noticed a wheel didn't turn so I looked up the parts on the Internet and local parts availability. No parts were available locally. So 45 minuets later I looked at enough places on the Internet and ordered the parts. My point is a 5 minuet job turned into a 50 minuet job because the original chore had elements that side tracked me.
Thanks for your complimentary words.
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Post by isthisit on Aug 17, 2020 15:50:27 GMT -5
Isthisit
I have learned to live with it and it doesn’t stop me doing much,.....That attitude is what I like and try to practice. I like that trait in a person, WTG. Some days I write down several things I would like to accomplish on that day. It helps me to get out of the dumps (negativity and depression like feelings) and at least start a project or something that needs to be accomplished. For me fatigue or not being motivated is sometimes the reason I put off doing things. The mini-list helps me most of the time. If I stick to my mini-list I am OK. What screws up the works is getting side tracked. Today I used the vacuum cleaner I haven't used for 5+ years to vacuum (hoover up in some country's jargon) some cat litter. Half way through the process the vacuum's bag was getting full. I also noticed a wheel didn't turn so I looked up the parts on the Internet and local parts availability. No parts were available locally. So 45 minuets later I looked at enough places on the Internet and ordered the parts. My point is a 5 minuet job turned into a 50 minuet job because the original chore had elements that side tracked me. Thanks for your complimentary words. Thank you, and my pleasure. ❤️ |
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. My second thought was maybe Isthisit could use a CPAP device. That is how some CPAP users think. It is the same mental process as little kiids have. If the kid has a hammer then s/he thinks a lot of things need hammering.
