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Post by notlookingback on Jul 10, 2016 5:40:19 GMT -5
Hello, I first posted here a couple of months ago when I got dumped by my refuser fiance. Tomorrow I start therapy to treat what I am certain is depression resulting from the break-up. Unfortunately, the nagging feeling that I won't be able to do better than my previous relationship has been tearing me apart. I am 31 years old and my dim view of my future is weighing down in every aspect of my everyday life. I recently was promoted as department head at work but I find that things I normally finish in one hour is now taking me double that time to finish. The promotion did nothing to boost my confidence and morale either. I have been doing every necessary step to forget about my ex, and the damage his negligence has inflicted upon my soul, like pick up from where I left off from my old hobbies but my enthusiasm over resuming them is zero. Friends would ask me for drinks and dinner and day trips but by the time I get home dark thoughts will be swarming in my head. On my free days I spend all day lying in bed reading forums like this to help me cope. I must say you guys have helped me immensely understand my failed relationship. Moving on, all I keep imagining is myself ending up in the same sexless, unromantic and intimacy-less relationship if I so much as bat an eye to the next dude. In fact, a former colleague of mine started chatting me up on facebook a few weeks ago, obviously with the intention to ask me out, and I ended up ghosting him after three or so days of chatting. It was rude but I can't seem to get myself to think that anything good will come out of it. I am not in a rush to dive into a new relationship but being alone for the rest of my life doesn't sound like a very inviting choice to me either. Even so, I find myself sometimes considering not ever marrying because there is every possibility that the next guy will eventually lose interest in me. You can say I was traumatized by my dysfunctional relationship to the point that I keep fantasizing about my ex never ever achieving happiness in a relationship ever. I keep wishing, and I believe it is very likely, that he'll end up in another disastrous sexless relationship because he mentioned in the past that he had in many times refused his ex before me sex. It is unhealthy I know, and that's why I have decided to enlist professional help.
So if anyone out there has gone to therapy post sexless marriage / relationship to help with depression, how much did it help? And are meds (prozac, zoloft, etc.) always necessary to treat it? I am, despite my current state, optimistic of the outcome.
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Post by petrushka on Jul 10, 2016 6:45:42 GMT -5
Yes, that sounds like a textbook clinical depression to me. Not to be confused with 'I feel depressed because I am sad'.
I've had two severe clinical depression episodes in my life. That was before ssri etc became available here. It got so bad that it was, and I kid you not, a major physical effort to get out of bed in the morning and brush my teeth. It was exhausting. Physically. Eventually I cottoned on to what was happening and made a plan.
Dont try to be the oak that stands straight and tall in the storm and breaks, be the willow and bend with it and ride it out. Avoid any kind of stress. Every molehill looked line an unsurmountable mountain range to me. I rang the tax people and said "I am sorry, I am really sick, I can't do the return this month, and possibly not next month". They were cool about it. I reduced my work load to next to nothing. I had to feed my dogs once a day. I had to move my cattle to new pasture once a week. That was it. I had to get up and brush my teeth. I had to cook one hot meal a day for myself - those were my demands of myself, and nothing else. After 4-6 weeks this became successful. One day, after shlepping home from shifting cattle I noticed that the grass was green, that my steps were lighter. I started to regain my energy. Some light exercise, in my case light physical work, became helpful rather than a drain.
But that is my story, and it's just not practical for most people. People in employment have bosses, tasks, obligations, schedules. In your circumstances I think you need to see a physician first, and get some meds. That should give you enough of a lift, energy wise, that you can maintain your daily life. Apart from the maintenance (going to work, paying the bills, feeding your body)destress as much as you can. Stress is the worst thing for deepening depression, and vice versa, the deeper the depression gets, the harder it gets to deal with the stress. Medication definitely can give you a leg up here. Just --- in my opinion, don't get hooked on the stuff. Also be aware: depression puts thoughts of suicide into your head. It is a symptom. It is not you who wants to kill yourself - it is a symptom of depression and why should you listen? Kick that thought out of your head when it crops up - that is not YOU thinking it. Prozac for one has been observed to increase the risk of suicide. Maybe because it gives really depressed people just enough energy to go through with it - that is one thought. I seriously don't know why - I am behind in following that discussion. Another nasty symptom is the wish to totally cut yourself off from other people. Don't give in to that, because, again, that will only make it worse. Ask friends for help - tell them you're ill with this, could they do a grocery run for you, or help you move that furniture for you. You have to make it clear to them that in your current frame of mind, they absolutely must not make demands of you, because that would only make things worse. "man up" "get over it" "go for a run" etc etc are not helpful in this situation, and if the person does not understand that, then maybe it's better not to have them on your case for a bit. But someone who turns up voluntarily with a bowl of chicken soup is ... chicken soup for the injured soul.
Talk therapy sadly does not seem to help much with depression. But a good therapist can help you manage the symptoms, and give you strategies of coping, and hopefully getting past it. It is not permanent for everybody. It may well be only a brief episode in your life. Roll of the dice, I guess.
All the best, P.
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Post by notlookingback on Jul 10, 2016 7:09:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight, P. I honestly don't get anywhere near the urge to commit suicide lol but I keep thinking that dying in some accident and therefore bringing this shit to an end would be... welcome. It's like there hardly is anything to look forward to and that everything is repetitive so there hardly is any point to go on living. And you are right; getting up every day and being greeted by chores, that is taking care of one's self and pets, seem very daunting :/ I am, however, wishing therapy and prescription would help. Again, thank you.
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Post by obobfla on Jul 10, 2016 9:14:52 GMT -5
notlookingback, having had severe depression, I can give a few tips. The most important thing to remember is this - depression lies. It tells you can't when you can. It says you have never been happy and you never will. Telling that damn voice to shut up might be the hardest thing you do, but you have to. This is a disease that can kill. Suicide can take many forms, and only a few are conscious. You may be sick of talking about it, but you have to. If there are support groups in your area, use them. When I was a teenager, I went on a depressive rant, telling everyone how terrible I was. My mother sat down and told me about how she suffered from postpartum depression after the birth of my third sister. I realized I wasn't alone, and I got help. Give your medicine time. It normally takes most anti-depressants 45 days to fully work. Feel free to talk about the side effects. For me, Prozac worked well, but Zoloft did not. That is surprising, as they are very similar medicines. Don't be surprised if the medicine affects your libido. If that's an issue, talk to your doctor to adjust it. I realize this is hard. In fact, it's a marathon. So like a marathon runner, pace yourself. There will be times you must allow yourself to either sleep or cry. Finally, accept life on life's terms. Many of us have unrealistic expectations, and we feel we fail when we don't meet them. If you find yourself feeling resentful or in a bout of self-pity, sing along with Frozen and let it go. You will be fine. Trust me.
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Post by baza on Jul 10, 2016 19:27:52 GMT -5
Upsides I am seeing here. #1 - you are functioning well enough to put a coherent post together - and not curled up in the fetal position. #2 - quoting you here - "I am, despite my current state, optimistic of the outcome" - which suggests that the fog is clearing, at least a little bit. #3 - you are pro-actively sourcing professional help. - Your particular way forward may have elements of psychological assessment, medication, therapy in it apart from the support of friends / family. And it may take a while to get that mix "right" for you. - But it really does read like your base, from which you are going to make your way forward, is pretty sound. You'll go pretty well I reckon.
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Post by Caris on Jul 10, 2016 19:44:23 GMT -5
Hello, I first posted here a couple of months ago when I got dumped by my refuser fiance. Tomorrow I start therapy to treat what I am certain is depression resulting from the break-up. Unfortunately, the nagging feeling that I won't be able to do better than my previous relationship has been tearing me apart. I am 31 years old and my dim view of my future is weighing down in every aspect of my everyday life. I recently was promoted as department head at work but I find that things I normally finish in one hour is now taking me double that time to finish. The promotion did nothing to boost my confidence and morale either. I have been doing every necessary step to forget about my ex, and the damage his negligence has inflicted upon my soul, like pick up from where I left off from my old hobbies but my enthusiasm over resuming them is zero. Friends would ask me for drinks and dinner and day trips but by the time I get home dark thoughts will be swarming in my head. On my free days I spend all day lying in bed reading forums like this to help me cope. I must say you guys have helped me immensely understand my failed relationship. Moving on, all I keep imagining is myself ending up in the same sexless, unromantic and intimacy-less relationship if I so much as bat an eye to the next dude. In fact, a former colleague of mine started chatting me up on facebook a few weeks ago, obviously with the intention to ask me out, and I ended up ghosting him after three or so days of chatting. It was rude but I can't seem to get myself to think that anything good will come out of it. I am not in a rush to dive into a new relationship but being alone for the rest of my life doesn't sound like a very inviting choice to me either. Even so, I find myself sometimes considering not ever marrying because there is every possibility that the next guy will eventually lose interest in me. You can say I was traumatized by my dysfunctional relationship to the point that I keep fantasizing about my ex never ever achieving happiness in a relationship ever. I keep wishing, and I believe it is very likely, that he'll end up in another disastrous sexless relationship because he mentioned in the past that he had in many times refused his ex before me sex. It is unhealthy I know, and that's why I have decided to enlist professional help. So if anyone out there has gone to therapy post sexless marriage / relationship to help with depression, how much did it help? And are meds (prozac, zoloft, etc.) always necessary to treat it? I am, despite my current state, optimistic of the outcome. notlookingback, two months is nothing. You are still grieving, and not at all ready to be thinking about dating or moving on. I hate this term moving on because it's usually said as soon as some horrible event occurs without even giving people time to grieve their loss. I believe this is what you are experiencing now...loss...and the accompanying grief and depression. I think you are expecting far too much of yourself at this early stage. Feeling what you feel is normal considering what happened. It's been one-year for me, and although I'm doing better, I still get depressed and have great moments of despair, and I know others who are post SM do too. Please give yourself time to go through the grieving and healing process, and it is a process. Hugs.
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Post by notlookingback on Jul 11, 2016 6:28:47 GMT -5
Thank you for your responses. This is hard but it looks like for the meantime I will have to force myself to exercise and cultivate my old hobbies and do some nature exploring activity. That's what the therapist told me this morning. :/ I'm kinda getting impatient with the pace of my so-called recovery but Caris and Obobfla you are right. I need to grieve first.
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