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Post by whisperingthunder on Apr 2, 2016 19:25:35 GMT -5
Maybe they're showing that there is life after a SM?
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Post by Dan on Apr 2, 2016 19:38:44 GMT -5
I have to say I get a little tired of people who have left their marriages coming back to a sexless marriage forum and rubbing in our faces in the fact that they are now having sex. This does nothing to support those of us who are staying on in our marriages (the majority of sexless couples stay together) Everybody is different and your "advice" just makes those of us in long term sexless marriages feel worse in an already bad situation. I want to hear advice from people who are staying on and coping. Among ALL the post-SM folks I've interacted with (on EP and here), NOT ONE OF THEM have the SLIGHTEST bit of malicious intent, flaunting their "success" or new-found sex life. There are many voices from the SM world. You mention being irked by those who are out of their SM, and having sex. But note... ... there are some who are still in their SM, but having sex (albeit outside the marriage). ... there are some who have left their SM, but not yet dating or having sex. Are you irked by those people, too? It is pretty common that folks who have coped with difficult life situations have wisdom for those still in it. I value their voices... at least sometimes. If you don't, I have no problem with that. But that is not a reason to deprive others the chance to consider their input / experiences, too. ALL THAT SAID: I actually agree that the voices of "people who are staying on an coping" is sometimes a bit light; at least on EP ILIASM. I, too, hope anyone in that situation can both provide AND receive support here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:08:37 GMT -5
I actually like hearing from the "escapees" - it give me hope that I'll have a normal life someday. And I've gotten a lot of good advice from both those still choosing to stay and those that have chosen to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:25:52 GMT -5
I'll second those who say that hearing good news from escapees makes me feel better. It gives me hope for the future.
I have not started officially dating again just yet. But then, I just lost my job, so I have a good excuse to postpone dating for awhile.
I figure, once I'm working again, I'll join a couple of the free dating websites (no sense wasting good money on practice dating, with guys who probably won't work out anyway.)
I'll do some practice dating for a few months, just so I can get used to dating again. When I feel like I've had enough practice, I'll join one of the good dating websites that you have to pay to join - and start seriously looking for a real partner.
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Post by lwoetin on Apr 2, 2016 23:53:59 GMT -5
If you are now having sex why are you here? Because your situation is going to revert back sooner or later. So hold on to your membership and try not to forget your password. There is no happily ever after.
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Post by misssunnybunny on Apr 3, 2016 17:21:29 GMT -5
I received a fantastic amount of advice and support from this group during and as I left my SM. I hope to provide any help I can, and it is also an understanding group as we who are in Opposite Land explore our new paths outside of an SM.
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Post by tinymouse on Apr 5, 2016 18:16:57 GMT -5
Just because you leave, you don't forget and damage is still there. And it may be helpful to one to remain in an attempt to heal
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Post by LITW on Apr 15, 2016 9:26:52 GMT -5
Plus, if you have developed friendships in this community, it seems rather cruel to be excluded because you don't meet the criteria of membership. Honestly, I don't mind because it gives me a little vicarious happiness to know that someone somewhere is getting some from somebody they love.
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Post by DryCreek on Apr 15, 2016 9:36:59 GMT -5
Plus, if you have developed friendships in this community, it seems rather cruel to be excluded because you don't meet the criteria of membership. Honestly, I don't mind because it gives me a little vicarious happiness to know that someone somewhere is getting some from somebody they love. This. How else are we going to have practical conversations about sexually healthy relationships with someone who actually "gets" our predicament? Now, the folks who've never been in our shoes... I'm not sure why they'd be here, and their prowess wouldn't have quite the same merit.
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Post by wewbwb on Apr 15, 2016 11:22:44 GMT -5
It's the same way that ex-alcoholics make the best sponsors. They know your pain and what you're going through.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 12:01:32 GMT -5
I have to say I get a little tired of people who have left their marriages coming back to a sexless marriage forum and rubbing in our faces in the fact that they are now having sex. (this is something I hated the most about ILIASM) This does nothing to support those of us who are staying on in our marriages (the majority of sexless couples stay together) Everybody is different and your "advice" just makes those of us in long term sexless marriages feel worse in an already bad situation. I want to hear advice from people who are staying on and coping. Whether we are having sex or not, (and in my case...not yet), some of us are still suffering from the effects of spending years and even decades in a SM. There is still no one else to talk to about it. I can't discuss this with anyone else in the real world. I haven't had a date in decades. I'm lost in this new world. There was no high tech or dating sites when I was dating. I'm pretty old fashioned when it comes to relationships, and this is my support network as I tread carefully into this new way of being. It's kind of like asking why there are support groups for divorced people when they are already divorced. The after effects are hard to deal with too...for some of us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 18:14:44 GMT -5
Just because you leave, you don't forget and damage is still there. And it may be helpful to one to remain in an attempt to heal You said it. Some of us *are* damaged. Some of us have terrible self esteem issues about how attractive anyone would find us after constant rejection lasting years and decades. Some of us have grown old and lost our allure, and wouldn't know it if it kissed us in the face. Some of us are still hurting very deeply from the damage, and the sheer loneliness of finding ourselves facing old age, alone. Some of us are still mourning the loss of decades of life, homes, pets, healthcare, and all we knew that was familiar. Some of us are facing years of healing. They say it takes one-year of healing for each 5-years of a SM. Add mental and emotional cruelty to the mix, and there is a lot of healing to do ... for some of us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 21:40:31 GMT -5
It's kind of like asking why there are support groups for divorced people when they are already divorced. The after effects are hard to deal with too...for some of us. No, it's like asking people why they are still hanging around a divorce support group after they have remarried.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 7:30:36 GMT -5
Okay, I can't stand it. I've been wanting to point this out for a long time. This thread is in the "POST Sexless Marriage" category - is it really surprising that people who left their SM are having sex again? Isn't that a huge part of why they left their SM? Talking about your post SM life is the whole point of this category.
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Post by bballgirl on Apr 16, 2016 7:43:20 GMT -5
Exactly MountainRunner! Sexless Marriage has nothing to do with sex. It's about incompatibility,control and selfishness. Why are we still here? Because a SM is a mind fuck! The effects of being rejected for years or decades leave one scarred and in need of support and this is the best support group. Nothing better! Saved my life! Why am I still here! For support in the next phase and more importantly to GIVE support! We refused are usually giving people. Refusers are usually takers and selfish. So in one word SUPPORT! That's why! But remember "why" doesn't matter!
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