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Post by Admin on Jun 28, 2016 22:22:59 GMT -5
Elizabeth Kuster is a freelance reporter who dropped by the forum in April (see this thread: " Prevention Magazine Interview Request") because she was researching for an article for Prevention magazine on sexless marriages. She has completed the article, and it looks like it was published in July's print edition of Prevention. I searched their website for it and couldn't find it. I don't know if there is a lag before the print edition makes it online, or if maybe not all print articles ARE posted online. However, she sent me a PDF of the article as it was published. FYI, here it is: Sexless Marriages - from Prevention - July 2016 - Elizabeth Kuster
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Post by Dan on Jun 28, 2016 22:24:51 GMT -5
This article couldn't MISS capturing the devastation of being in a sexless marriage by a wider margin if it tried.
Let's just start with the title: "The Cure for Sexless Marriages". Seriously? Could it overreach any more?
It makes the valid distinction between "temporary doldrums" (of low marital sex) and severe, chronic sexlessness ("sexual desire discrepancy"). OK, yes, that is an important distinction. But by the end of the article, she lumps them together addresses both with the "cure" of -- what we call on ILIASM -- "bacon scented candles". You know: "share your fantasies", "schedule sex weekly", "learn each other's turn-ons". Um.... yeah.
It has a few side-bars in the article, the largest of which is an anecdote from a woman who is content with her low-sex marriage, and believes her husband is, too. Even if the woman is right that her hubby is OK with this... WTF?!?! OK, I'm fine if they are happy with their low-sex marriage. But what place has THAT anecdote in an article about the other kind of sexless marriage: where one partner is devastated by the loneliness? The kind that can actually tear marriages -- and families -- apart?
It pays lip service to debunking the myth that men always want it more than women... and then trots out the equally inane "but age, you know, that does a job on your libido, for sure". Say: if age lowers our libido, how does aging lead to "sexual desire discrepancy"; after all, aren't both members of the couple aging at the same rate?
Lastly, returning to the title page, at first I thought the art on the title page was clever: two water knobs both labeled "cold". But -- upon further reflection -- wouldn't the traditional two knobs of "hot" and "cold" actually be more apt? Or -- even better -- "normal" and "cold"?
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Post by baza on Jun 28, 2016 22:30:01 GMT -5
Well, for a chick who was apparently hell bent on doing some extensive research on the subject, what she has actually produced is HUGELY disappointing, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 0:25:53 GMT -5
As with seemingly everyone else who writes about sexless marriages, she makes the mistake of thinking it's a problem you both want to solve.
She had this article written before she even came here. She did not listen.
Shame on her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 0:30:34 GMT -5
Or, she did listen, and she knew the truth would be too depressing for a fluff article in a mainstream magazine, so she sugar coated it to bag a paycheck.
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Post by baza on Jun 29, 2016 0:35:55 GMT -5
Just occurs to me, that maybe she wrote a great article, a warts and all job, with the options all on the table - and maybe her editor scrubbed heaps of it out. Anyway, what ended up being published was trite superficial crap. "Why" it ended up as trite superficial crap doesn't particularly matter. It just did.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 1:04:41 GMT -5
Just occurs to me, that maybe she wrote a great article, a warts and all job, with the options all on the table - and maybe her editor scrubbed heaps of it out. Anyway, what ended up being published was trite superficial crap. "Why" it ended up as trite superficial crap doesn't particularly matter. It just did. Now that you mention it, I do recall waning her that her editors may find the truth too dark. Perhaps this is her excuse. If she is lurking to see our reaction, she may also have it somewhere in her surely copious notes that we are not people who have time for excuses.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jun 29, 2016 8:05:46 GMT -5
Another negative to this is the magazine tittle. " Prevention". How many people read this, see it as health science, and take it as truth? Compared to reading Cosmopolitan?
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Post by lwoetin on Jun 29, 2016 23:52:36 GMT -5
This article couldn't MISS capturing the devastation of being in a sexless marriage by a wider margin if it tried. Let's just start with the title: "The Cure for Sexless Marriages". Seriously? Could it overreach any more? It makes the valid distinction between "temporary doldrums" (of low marital sex) and severe, chronic sexlessness ("sexual desire discrepancy"). OK, yes, that is an important distinction. But by the end of the article, she lumps them together addresses both with the "cure" of -- what we call on ILIASM -- "bacon scented candles". You know: "share your fantasies", "schedule sex weekly", "learn each other's turn-ons". Um.... yeah. It has a few side-bars in the article, the largest of which is an anecdote from a woman who is content with her low-sex marriage, and believes her husband is, too. Even if the woman is right that her hubby is OK with this... WTF?!?! OK, I'm fine if they are happy with their low-sex marriage. But what place has THAT anecdote in an article about the other kind of sexless marriage: where one partner is devastated by the loneliness? The kind that can actually tear marriages -- and families -- apart? It pays lip service to debunking the myth that men always want it more than women... and then trots out the equally inane "but age, you know, that does a job on your libido, for sure". Say: if age lowers our libido, how does aging lead to "sexual desire discrepancy"; after all, aren't both members of the couple aging at the same rate? Lastly, returning to the title page, at first I thought the art on the title page was clever: two water knobs both labeled "cold". But -- upon further reflection -- wouldn't the traditional two knobs of "hot" and "cold" actually be more apt? Or -- even better -- "normal" and "cold"? I like it. She's got her pompoms and cheerleading outfit and encouraging couples to not give up. She didn't focus on the devastation of a sexless marriage and probably because the magazine wants to focus on how to improve a SM and feel good about humanity. The title is pretty bold. I think it was put there just to be eye catchy and not really to be taken precisely. Her main point of the article is: "Here, sex therapists, ob-gyns, and sex researchers explain what a sexless marriage really is, why desire ebbs, and what couples can do to regain physical intimacy." Which is more palatable. I took the aging effects on SDD to refer to one spouse affected more by illness, weight gain, tiredness, stress boredom and anger...therefore worsening SDD in time. The article ends with the professionals' recommendations on how to improve the SM. Supposedly if both spouses are willing to do this, then it will improve. It doesn't say how to get both spouses to want to do it though. Maybe with a hatchet in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 9:32:41 GMT -5
I really like the typesetting! Yeah, the layout and graphics are good. It's packaged attractively. And it may have some advice that's useful for couples who are having minor temporary issues. A long-term lack of sex? Useless.
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Post by Dan on Jun 30, 2016 9:40:16 GMT -5
And it may have some advice that's useful for couples who are having minor temporary issues. Right; I'll give it that. With minor reworking of the article, it would better have been pitched/titled as: "The Heartbreak of Long-term Marital Sexlessness; How to Know if you are Headed That Way; and How To Try To Prevent It Before It Happens"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 9:30:38 GMT -5
As with seemingly everyone else who writes about sexless marriages, she makes the mistake of thinking it's a problem you both want to solve. She had this article written before she even came here. She did not listen. Shame on her. While I did appreciate the article and think it was well-written and thorough in terms of ruling out other causes of sexlessness, @phinheasgage is right on the money with the above. I could show this article to my H and it would mean nothing to him. If I were lucky (pun intended), he might, major emphasis on might, give it a go for a week (tops) and then drop it like a hot potato, because frankly he has no desire (yes, pun intended - again) to solve this 'problem.' In fact, I would venture to say, it's not even a problem for him. Because ya know fellas, apparently that hand of his beats me every day in the 'sooooooo effing sexy' department.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 13:57:57 GMT -5
I've read through this article about five times since last night. Each time, I try to stop myself from thinking, 'what the actual fuck.'
I don't think she interviewed anyone in depth with more than a dry spell. If she did, this piece would portray the pain and downright beating one's self esteem takes. And I think she completely misses the mark about communication breakdown (queue Led Zeppelin now.) But really, some of us just CAN'T bring ourselves to talk to our spouses about mismatched libido and sexual desire discrepancy after years of being refused.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 1, 2016 14:22:00 GMT -5
I've read through this article about five times since last night. Each time, I try to stop myself from thinking, 'what the actual fuck.' I don't think she interviewed anyone in depth with more than a dry spell. If she did, this piece would portray the pain and downright beating one's self esteem takes. And I think she completely misses the mark about communication breakdown (queue Led Zeppelin now.) But really, some of us just CAN'T bring ourselves to talk to our spouses about mismatched libido and sexual desire discrepancy after years of being refused. It's not just that we CAN'T - we can't ANYMORE - we have laid it out, and opened ourselves up - and got rejected. So how many times can we do that? How many times can we try before we KNOW it's not happening? How long before we just pull away and close ourselves off? And what happens when and if it gets reawakened? Again - the article assume both sides what to fix it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 14:38:04 GMT -5
I agree with @elle, @phinheasgage and Dan. This is good "you might be heading for a SM if..." article. Sadly, for folks in a SM...nothing. That would require an actual research study conducted over the course of several months, if not, years, on an incredibly delicate subject matter. And, frankly, there's more money in researching adultery, due to its historically illicit nature. Or erectile dysfunction drugs. But, I also liked the layout?
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