m76
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Post by m76 on Aug 23, 2023 17:30:05 GMT -5
I had my first counseling session today and I thought I'd share something. Its not a solution but it explains why many of us in a SM feel so depressed. It mostly deals with the relationship between infants and caregivers but they also draw the parallels between those relationships and romantic ones: labs.psychology.illinois.edu/~rcfraley/attachment.htm"Hazan and Shaver noted that the relationship between infants and caregivers and the relationship between adult romantic partners share the following features: both feel safe when the other is nearby and responsive both engage in close, intimate, bodily contact both feel insecure when the other is inaccessible both share discoveries with one another both play with one another's facial features and exhibit a mutual fascination and preoccupation with one another both engage in "baby talk" On the basis of these parallels, Hazan and Shaver argued that adult romantic relationships, like infant-caregiver relationships, are attachments, and that romantic love is a property of the attachment behavioral system, as well as the motivational systems that give rise to caregiving and sexuality." There's a lot to unpack with this but at its core, it seems like for adults to be happy we need someone that we are 100% comfortable with and can share our feelings with. So what' I'm grappling with, did the relationship disconnect come before the lack of physical intimacy or did the lack of physical intimacy cause the relationship disconnect and can that attachment be restored?
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Post by mirrororchid on Aug 24, 2023 20:10:19 GMT -5
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Post by baza on Aug 25, 2023 0:20:50 GMT -5
Quoting you here Brother m76 - "So what' I'm grappling with, did the relationship disconnect come before the lack of physical intimacy or did the lack of physical intimacy cause the relationship disconnect and can that attachment be restored?" I figure that as well as posting, you are also reading a great deal in other members posts here. Have you seen any examples of 'attachment being restored' ? I've been in this group (and the old Experience Project) since Feb 2009, must have read thousands of posts and whereas there has been the odd restoration story they are rare. Really rare.
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Post by toughtiger on Aug 25, 2023 13:56:29 GMT -5
Quoting you here Brother m76 - "So what' I'm grappling with, did the relationship disconnect come before the lack of physical intimacy or did the lack of physical intimacy cause the relationship disconnect and can that attachment be restored?"
After a specific amount of time looking back may not be an accurate recollection...... some before sure. In my situation i believe the BIG disconnect came after sex had dwindled and disappeared.... spouse was not a big sharer before but as his health declined he could have spoken up ....instead led me to think it was me not hot enough or available etc.
NOW after the fact omg he makes it out that he was worse then I ever knew ....
I am not always receptive of these tall tales because i WAS there and SAW him manage golf every weekend but sex .. NOPE too strenuous on his delicate condition lmao Once a refuser has let their partner stew with anger and resentment til it boils over ....... Nope no one can restore that ever.
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