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Post by gary1662 on May 6, 2023 22:00:00 GMT -5
Hi All,
I am new here and am not sure what to say. I have been a sexless and loveless marriage for 14 years. I stay as I have a child and worry that I would be separated from them and also stay as my child is sensitive and somewhat anxious. My spouse and I sleep in separate rooms (her choice), she has never once apologized during our entire marriage. I am the sole income earner, own my own business, cook my own food, buy my own groceries, and household chores such as laundry. It is an insane life but I feel I have to stay until my daughter reaches 18.
I hope to someday have a loving partner. I miss holding hands, just sitting together and cuddling and of course sex. I feel very much trapped.
Gary
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Post by baza on May 7, 2023 0:02:36 GMT -5
Hello gary1662 . Do you also worry about the example you and your missus are setting for your child ? Your story reads like a room-mate situation, and she doesn't even come across as a decent room-mate. Anyway, you dont actually "have to" do anything. You can stay in your ILIASM situation - that's a perfectly valid choice. You could cheat - another perfectly valid choice. You could leave - another perfectly valid choice. These choices are all perfectly valid, but they all come with consequences. Often times it comes down to what you perceive to be "the least worst" choice.
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Post by ironhamster on May 7, 2023 4:51:57 GMT -5
Greetings, gary1662. Welcome to the club nobody wants to be a member of. Odds are, your child will be smart enough to know something isn't right in the home. Consider looking into the family laws in your area. Alimony greatly increases as the length of the marriage increases, so waiting may not be in your favor. Child support lasts a long time, too. Both can be reduced by forcing your wife back into the workforce. An attorney in your area can help with the details, and most will give up their first half hour for free. It's good to know where you stand, and if you know where this is going then a little spent on preparation will save you a lot in the long run.
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Post by mirrororchid on May 8, 2023 6:10:44 GMT -5
Welcome Gary1662. Had some questions/comments: How old is your daughter? Married 14 years, you may have 4 years to go, or 17. That's a very wide range of experiences. It may be vital to know if child support in your region stops at 18 or has caveats that last longer. (mandatory college tuition contribution, health insurance, other) Was your relationship sexless before the marriage too?
Do you do all the cooking and laundry for your wife's food and clothes too? Or it's every-person-for-themselves? I'll jump ahead and ask whether there's any potential mental issues such as clinical depression? Any medication involved? (even non-psych meds can affect sexual drive)
Baza mentions "cheating" as an option to regain intimacy into your life (if you ever had it). If you wander around ILIASM, you'll see me flesh this out into two important flavors: secret and disclosed. Most people go the secret route. The affair. Getting some, and hiding it. I'm unsure why this option is so disproportionately popular. It's too often discovered anyway, adds deception to the "crime" of infidelity, and removes the possibility of a collaborative solution to an unacceptable intimate relationship. Disclosed infidelity (often referred to as "outsourcing" here at ILIASM) is a situation where you inform your spouse of your intent to open the marriage. Baza is rightly quick to warn that this intention or fulfillment of the plan will cause divorce, so it is optimal to make sure you know what to expect if your spouse insists on celibacy or your spouse will torch the marriage. Get that legal opinion before you begin. Mrs. MirrorOrchid chose to resume intimate companionship rather than have me find intimate time elsewhere. I've only read about four cases of informed outsourcing having been proposed, and all four resulted in intact marriages and resolution of sexlessness. Four is way too small a sample size to assume your marriage would survive outsourcing, but it bears observation that the success ratio of informed outsourcing resolving sexlessness and keeping the marriage is startlingly good. If divorce is triggered by the initiation of outsourcing, sexlessness may well have been resolved as well, though the marriage not be saved. If your spouse destroys your marriage in order to deny you a simple, basic, yet outsized fraction of human existence, some might find the refusing spouse a less sympathetic figure. In the event you secure permission, consent, or even approval, of outsourcing, you will have found "consensual non-monogamy", the leprecorn. 
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Post by angeleyes65 on May 8, 2023 10:51:10 GMT -5
gary1662 Welcome I got out 6 years ago next month at 52... I'm living my best life with a loving caring partner. Never too late to be happy !
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Post by h on May 8, 2023 16:46:10 GMT -5
Welcome gary1662 to the club nobody wants to be a member of. Glad you found us but sorry you needed to. Biggest question is how long until your daughter is 18? That will greatly change the situation.
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