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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 0:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by petrushka on Feb 6, 2021 0:29:08 GMT -5
Once upon a time the USA was proud of having defeated Hitler and the Nazis (you didn't, it was actually the Russians, but never mind).
And these days, anti-fascism appears to have become a dirty word for some Americans.
How the wheel turns.
I know I am not going to change any minds here, but in a way my heart weeps.
Some of you have gone so deeply down the rabbit hole ....
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 0:49:51 GMT -5
Once upon a time the USA was proud of having defeated Hitler and the Nazis (you didn't, it was actually the Russians, but never mind). And these days, anti-fascism appears to have become a dirty word for some Americans. How the wheel turns. I know I am not going to change any minds here, but in a way my heart weeps. Some of you have gone so deeply down the rabbit hole .... I've already explained the mind game played by intellectually dishonest and logically indefensible Antifascist rhetoric, but do keep in mind that the Berlin Wall, over which many Germans died while attempting to cross it on their way to freedom, was indeed officially called by those that built it, "The ANTI-FASCIST Bulwark." |
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Post by saarinista on Feb 6, 2021 0:55:31 GMT -5
ironhamster Yes, I am still a supporter of Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama after reading your attachments, which are drawn from sources slanted to the far right. I don't know if you realize the difference between legitimate journalism like the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and the sources you cited, but there are many variances. One America? We probably never have been all that united. That's why politicians should be careful what they say to their supporters. I'm not going to argue with you. We are not operating from the same understanding of certain realities and I think that makes productive discussion impossible. This really isn't the venue for it anyway. I urge you to consider that most Americans- in fact, people world wide-are horrified at what happened at the US Capitol on January 6th. It's possible that the bulk of us are idiots and that those with your mindset know better. But I urge you to consider whether that is actually the case. No one has all the answers. That's what I believe.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 0:57:00 GMT -5
Is the Holocaust denying New York Times really considered a legitimate source by you?
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 0:58:52 GMT -5
I can't fathom how many people died because the New York Times concealed the truth about the Holocaust they knew the Nazis were committing.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 1:02:01 GMT -5
As for the 6th, Nancy Pelosi encouraged WORSE in Wisconsin. So, if you are still a Pelosi fan but condemn the 6th, all I can do is point out the hypocrisy. The right is only learning to do what the left approves of.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 1:03:33 GMT -5
Do you still believe the Russian collusion hoax, or the PeePee hoax? Did your legitimate sources ever tell you the truth?
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Post by saarinista on Feb 6, 2021 1:53:45 GMT -5
ironhamsterThese random one offs about Holocaust NYTimes, Wisconsin protests and other provocative "stuff" are red herrings. I'm sorry you've been negatively affected by the Antifa protesters in Portland. I'm not a fan. Last I checked, a significant majority of Americans are upset about the Capitol riots. I am sure you don't want more death and destruction to come from anything similar in the future. It sounds like you were in the crowd and helping law enforcement. Thank you. In general, I think we should all resist speaking casually about these provocative issues. I hope people on all sides will be reluctant to attend emotional, out of control protests these days. People are getting killed. Love is the answer. Isn't that why we got on this forum in the first place? For heaven's sake.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 6, 2021 2:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by deadzone75 on Feb 6, 2021 2:33:37 GMT -5
As for the 6th, Nancy Pelosi encouraged WORSE in Wisconsin. So, if you are still a Pelosi fan but condemn the 6th, all I can do is point out the hypocrisy. The right is only learning to do what the left approves of. Truth. Pelosi wasn't the only Dem calling for "unrest" and for people to "rise up in the streets" during the Loot For Justice Tour, during which business burned and people were killed. Imagine if that had been Trump who was encouraging that. And this is all on tape. |
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Post by Handy on Feb 6, 2021 12:24:35 GMT -5
What is the PeePee hoax? I found a Pee Tape link. Is that it?
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Post by Handy on Feb 6, 2021 13:32:05 GMT -5
HuffPost
Mike Lindell, the founder of MyPillow and a prominent ally of former President Donald Trump, was suspended from Twitter for promoting election conspiracies.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 7, 2021 0:27:51 GMT -5
The PeePee hoax is a story about Trump, in Russia, hiring prostitutes to pee on a bed in a room the Clintons slept in. Total fabrication. The Russian collusion was also a total fabrication, unless we are talking about Hillary who was richly rewarded by Russians after approving the sale of 20% of our uranium to our nuclear nemesis. The Obama administration entrapped American hero General Flynn because he was going to revamp the DHS. Carter Page was prosecuted over a letter the CIA sent to the FBI confirming he was a CIA asset in Russia, but a low level FBI lawyer was just punished for editing that memo to say Page did not work for the CIA, which led to our three year forty million dollar Special Counsel investigation of Trump. His punishment? Kevin Clinesmith got a 100 dollar fine and 100 hours of community service. Ask yourself, if a law officer can fabricate false evidence and lie to the John Roberts controlled FISA court, cause a massive amount of fake news and distraction to the President himself, and walk out free with a $100 fine, do you think anyone is safe from fabricated evidence? The FBI knows they can fabricate anything to get anyone, now.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 7, 2021 0:40:08 GMT -5
Mike Lindell isn't the only cancel culture victim. My favorite social media app suffered a coordinated attack from AAPL, GOOG, and AMZN, because it was the #1 app being downloaded as people got tired of big tech censorship. They actually killed the app. AMZN was hosting it, and by contract needed to give Parler 30 days notice if they wanted to cancel service. They gave Parler less than thirty hours notice before they vaporized them. Meanwhile, Twitter is still allowing Iran to post about wiping out the Jews without concern from anyone.
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