One report says the chopper seemed to be having flight (engine?) problems and was at low altitude before it disappeared into a fog and impacted the hillside. (Which to all appearances was probably level enough to land on.)
An aviator friend of mine says that a common failure in private craft crashes is refusing to accept the situation and commit to having a “good crash” (a la Sully in the Hudson River), instead of struggling to recover / return to the field and creating a catastrophe.
Low visibility / instrument flight rules, plus engine problems, plus terrain warnings, in an aircraft that doesn’t glide... I can only imagine the chaos that pilot was fighting at the end.
Post by worksforme2 on Jan 27, 2020 6:23:46 GMT -5
I have never been a fan of pro basketball. I prefer the round ball played in college, so I won't miss him for his athletic performances. But from what I observed over the years he seemed like a good man, and a great father. Something that every sport and endeavor could use more of, good men.
It's odd to me that flight recorders are not required on commercial helicopters.
It's also interesting the the pilot did not ask for clearance to fly by instruments, though that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't using instruments, I guess.
I haven't been to metro LA in ages, but I vaguely recall how the fog hangs in the valleys. The elevations can change very quickly and in thick fog, a mountain can rise out of nowhere. Unfortunately, I guess terrain change warning devices are not required in helicopters, either.
Given that a chopper has the glide path of a rock🙄😕, perhaps they'll be required to have more safety equipment after this accident. Alas, it often seems people have to die before safety changes take place.
Kobe lived life to the max while he lived. May his passing be a reminder to all of us that each of our days are numbered.... ❤️🙏🏼
Please forgive any typos or poor sentence structure. As I often say, you can have it perfect or you can have it now. Here, I choose now.
saarinista, conflicting stories... reports of erratic flight / mechanical failure / loss of control that seem consistent with the transponder details transmitted 2x/second. I’m inclined to believe the data. Google “flightaware” or “flightradar24” for 3D diagrams of the flight path.
But, there are first-hand witnesses who could hear (but not see) the craft, that strongly suggest simple pilot error / disorientation - though this is questionable because not only was the pilot very experienced and rated for instrument (zero-visibility) flight, he was also an instrument-rating instructor.
What does seem to be clear is that the weather was bad enough that police and news choppers were grounded. And there seemed to be some skirting of the rules for visual flight to avoid the delays of filing an instrument flight plan. Common sense was overridden; something aviators call “get-there-itis”, where safety gets skirted in the interest of schedule.
Regardless... it’s a harsh reminder that no matter how successful you might be, life can change in an instant.
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worksforme2: Since our esteemed governor has declared a state of emergency here in NC (a total of 12 cases so far) the hording of toilet paper has begun. Is diarrhea a part of covid 19? I see Lowes and Home Depot have quick install toilet retro fit bidets.
Mar 13, 2020 10:34:57 GMT -5
petrushka: I've no idea what it is with the toilet paper hoarding. I walked out of a supermarket yesterday and saw a woman with the jumbo sized trolley and some 4x 18 roll packs of toilet paper. Nuts. Completely nuts. Incidentally, a bidet is definitely the way to go
Mar 14, 2020 6:18:43 GMT -5
petrushka: Even her little 5 or 6 year old was questioning her purchase!
Mar 14, 2020 6:25:44 GMT -5
petrushka: One of my favourite quotes for the last 30 years: "don't ever look a sheep in the eyes, the intellectual vacuum may suck your brains out". Well, let's all drink to the sheeple! (besides, alcohol is a good disinfectant).
Mar 14, 2020 6:31:26 GMT -5
frednsa: so...............i'd like to tell her when she "attempts to placate me": have you ever been invited to a party where you knew for certain that you WEREN'T wanted ?
Mar 19, 2020 15:57:05 GMT -5
worksforme2: Former Miss Hawaii tests positive. Being the gallant lad that I am I have offered her the use of my guest bedroom to "shelter in place"..
Mar 23, 2020 20:34:21 GMT -5
worksforme2: Hey tamara68, there is a covid19 positive cat in Belgium, watch out for it.
Mar 30, 2020 14:05:56 GMT -5
tamara68: @worksforme I think I have to be more careful for all infected people. Most likely I already have Covid19
Apr 1, 2020 3:29:42 GMT -5
worksforme2: tamara68.....it's been a couple weeks since you posted you may have the covid19 virus. hopefully you are feeling better and are on your way to renewed health
Apr 11, 2020 5:31:38 GMT -5
tamara68: @worksforme thanks, yes I am feeling better. How is it in the USA?
Apr 14, 2020 1:57:26 GMT -5
worksforme2: some better and some worse,..virus seems to be slowing down, but people are beginning to refuse to stay inside,...worst thing I see is Biden leading in the election poles,...but that could be fake news
Apr 20, 2020 16:56:22 GMT -5
mirrororchid: Politics? Is that what we want to happen here?
Apr 21, 2020 6:21:24 GMT -5
petrushka: Certainly not American style politics. Toxic echo chambers.
Apr 23, 2020 16:21:52 GMT -5
petrushka: However, I feel that sexual politics, including political moves that impact the relationships between gender (misogynist, misandrist, etc) definitely deserve room in this context.
Apr 23, 2020 16:22:59 GMT -5
fred: just calculated that i've spent somewhere near 19,000 days (& nights) as a "rejectee".AND that allows for 2,000+ days (& nights) on business travel apart from her. i've chosen to "stay" .....would never do that again, and can't as you see doing the math
May 15, 2020 18:01:15 GMT -5
worksforme2: 19000 days and nights,....damn dude, that's 52 yrs.
Jun 17, 2020 9:19:10 GMT -5
fred: you're a little short works - was thinking this AM, there has NEVER been a day when she indicated desire for me physically (other than for heavy lifting or finance)........LOL...........earlier, i had enough libido for both of us, now i'm left with guilt
Jun 20, 2020 13:11:12 GMT -5
fred: over imposing myself on her rather than simply leaving .....DAMN LOVE ANYWAY !
Jun 20, 2020 13:12:12 GMT -5
mesulina: update everyone, still has not happened. I have now come to accept that I will live with out. It is just different now.
Jun 29, 2020 19:32:31 GMT -5
worksforme2: Sorry mesulina,... but on the positive side you did stock up on toys a short time back,..now might be the time to go for the gusto
Jun 30, 2020 17:42:54 GMT -5