omixochitl
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Post by omixochitl on May 21, 2016 5:56:53 GMT -5
Sometimes I worry that I will be a "turn-off" because I am a person who is really trying to find answers, solutions and reasons why. I'm very interested in psychology and how we all ended up in this situation, both our partners and ourselves. I guess you could call me "intense" but this quality adds to my life in many ways. Curiosity is a big part of who I am.
Anybody else out there who wonders if they might come across as too intense or dark?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 6:22:21 GMT -5
Intensity and darkness are not my particular counter-aphrodisiacs. But, you're addressing an applicable basic principle. Each of us expresses behaviors and traits that may serve us well in one or more settings while hurting us in others. Hopefully, we can compensate for the deficits.
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Post by worksforme2 on May 21, 2016 6:31:41 GMT -5
Too dark,... with all this grey hair, not a chance. I have been told I am sometimes too analytical. But I think that may be because as one of those who found themselves in a S/M and spent yrs. trying to fix it before finally leaving, I sure as hell don't want to miss a red flag as I seek a future S.O. It's an extra cautionary facet that has been added to my otherwise very outgoing and positive approach to a possible romantic interest. I expect most if not all of us are just a bit more reflective when it comes to a future relationship. Oh and just a bit of collective wisdom I'll impart to you on the "why chasing", assuming you are referring to your S/M. It's rarely productive. And even if you do find or figure out the why as a few do, it almost never changes anything.
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Post by unmatched on May 21, 2016 7:09:46 GMT -5
It seems to me that somebody who found you too intense (and I am sure some might) would be completely unsuited to you as a partner. Just be yourself and you will attract the right people into your life. Try and be what you think other people want and you short circuit that whole process and end up with all the wrong friends and romantic partners.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 7:19:49 GMT -5
Nope. I have always had a dry, dark sarcastic sense of humor, so I KNOW I'm "dark." It's part of my charm, but some people don't understand, nor respond well to it. I tend not to befriend people like that, because I know I will very likely say/do something that will either make them mad or hurt their feelings.
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Post by wewbwb on May 21, 2016 7:23:33 GMT -5
Sometimes I worry that I will be a "turn-off" because I am a person who is really trying to find answers, solutions and reasons why. I'm very interested in psychology and how we all ended up in this situation, both our partners and ourselves. I guess you could call me "intense" but this quality adds to my life in many ways. Curiosity is a big part of who I am. Anybody else out there who wonders if they might come across as too intense or dark? I often come off as not serious enough. But i also can be intense. I am interested in the psychological aspects of our situations as well. I simply choose to not take life too seriously. See the humor and beauty around us. Regardless of that. Be who you are and be open. That is what matters.
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Post by wewbwb on May 21, 2016 7:24:08 GMT -5
Nope. I have always had a dry, dark sarcastic sense of humor, so I KNOW I'm "dark." It's part of my charm, but some people don't understand, nor respond well to it. I tend not to befriend people like that, because I know I will very likely say/do something that will either make them mad or hurt their feelings. I don't understand.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 7:25:47 GMT -5
Nope. I have always had a dry, dark sarcastic sense of humor, so I KNOW I'm "dark." It's part of my charm, but some people don't understand, nor respond well to it. I tend not to befriend people like that, because I know I will very likely say/do something that will either make them mad or hurt their feelings. I don't understand. What part don't you understand, wewbwb?
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Post by greatcoastal on May 21, 2016 7:29:38 GMT -5
We are all, always learning and should not dwell on fears of looking stupid by asking questions. Most will admire your strength shown in asking. Many times you are complimenting someone by seeking there opinion and knowledge.
I find myself holding up a mirror,and asking if I sound " dark,intense,worried, a turn off" ,who wants to be around that?
Who do you like being around and what keeps you there?
Last, words mean things. Worry is something we say and do far too much of. How many things we worry about daily that never happen, or are no where near as bad. Think of the word, concern. When you are concerned about something you usually have good reason to be.
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Post by baza on May 21, 2016 7:36:49 GMT -5
Like worksforme2, I would caution any tendency you might have as a "curious" person, to not go too far down the "why chasing" route - IF such why chasing is trying to figure out "why" your spouse is avoidant. It's a road to nowhere, and you can really burn some time on a pointless exercise. And, even if you fluked finding out "why", it makes not an iota's difference to the avoidant spouses behaviour anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 15:13:21 GMT -5
Sometimes I worry that I will be a "turn-off" because I am a person who is really trying to find answers, solutions and reasons why. I'm very interested in psychology and how we all ended up in this situation, both our partners and ourselves. I guess you could call me "intense" but this quality adds to my life in many ways. Curiosity is a big part of who I am. Anybody else out there who wonders if they might come across as too intense or dark? I have wondered the same about myself, many times. I am a seeker and very interested in the psychology of myself and others as well as the intricacies of any situation. Some would call me quite intense and sometimes, too serious, and almost always, too introverted. These are traits of mine that used to bother me, that I considered to be liabilities. However, in my mid-40s and with all the seeking and learning I have done, I am growing to accept myself. In fits and starts, I am inching closer to genuine self-love - you know that feeling of being totally comfortable in your own skin and accepting yourself, metaphorical warts and all? Forgiving your own mistakes? Speaking kindly to yourself? In my 20s and 30s, I couldn't do that. I have come to believe that the work of a human life is first - to learn about and to truly know yourself, and second - to accept and truly love yourself. Some of us will work an entire lifetime and never get there, never even glimpse it. Others are born comfortable in their own skin. The rest of us fall somewhere in the middle. Along with knowing yourself, is knowing what you bring to this lifetime - to those around you. Once you truly know and accept yourself, then your gifts can shine - and that, I think, is the purpose of life - shine those gifts on others, baby. Those qualities you see as negatives? I bet, on the flip side, those are actually your gifts. (In the same vein as Carl Jung's brilliance, 'the wound is the gift.') As an example, I have struggled mightily with my own introversion until the last few years when I finally realized it is actually one of my greatest gifts. I am not the girl who will walk into a party and wow everyone with witty banter and party jokes. I will make a little small talk, I will always smile, but you will soon spot me in a corner locked in conversation with one, maybe 2 others. And the conversation is deep and it is satisfying and it is intimate. People open up to me in a way I know they don't with others. I know secrets about neighbors and casual friends that others don't because I was able to provide that safe, quiet space for them to be themselves. I'm proud of that and I do believe that particular gift is the flip side of shyness/introversion. (Along with that, I have a vault that would dwarf Fort Knox - these secrets go down with the boat, LOL.) So, I am learning that I am 'that' girl at the party, and not 'the other' girl at the party and learning to embrace that. We are both awesome girls in our own rights, we just each bring something very different to the table. Is that helpful at all? Oh yeah, being concise? Not one of my gifts, as you may have noticed!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 19:22:57 GMT -5
I worry sometimes that something about me might be off-putting to men. Not my appearance - my behavior.
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omixochitl
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Post by omixochitl on May 21, 2016 20:40:14 GMT -5
Like worksforme2, I would caution any tendency you might have as a "curious" person, to not go too far down the "why chasing" route - IF such why chasing is trying to figure out "why" your spouse is avoidant. It's a road to nowhere, and you can really burn some time on a pointless exercise. And, even if you fluked finding out "why", it makes not an iota's difference to the avoidant spouses behaviour anyway. Spot on. A big problem for me.
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Post by baza on May 21, 2016 20:54:46 GMT -5
I empathise with your curious position Sister O. I was the greatest "why chaser" in the southern hemisphere back in the day, and I pissed a couple of decades up against the wall in the process. You do not get those wasted years back. - What helped me bust the pattern may - or may not - be useful to you, but I offer it in good faith for you to think about. - I shifted my focus from chasing my avoidant spouses "why" she behaved as she did, and concentrated instead on MY "why". "Why" the fuck I was still in the dysfunctional situation. In my case, it was fear of the unknown and a fear about 'what people / family might think about me'. These fears were managable when I thought my way through it all (and in retrospect, these fears were basically groundless too, as it turned out) - Anyway, my suggestion is, YES - continue to "why chase" - BUT with the focus on YOU, not your avoidant spouse.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 21:17:05 GMT -5
Sometimes I worry that I will be a "turn-off" because I am a person who is really trying to find answers, solutions and reasons why. I'm very interested in psychology and how we all ended up in this situation, both our partners and ourselves. I guess you could call me "intense" but this quality adds to my life in many ways. Curiosity is a big part of who I am. Anybody else out there who wonders if they might come across as too intense or dark? You're not too serious but if you're expending a lot of energy trying to figure out why you're in this mess do understand that this knowledge is of purely academic interest. It will not change anything, in this relationship at least. You can use that knowledge to improve your color vision so you'll see the red flags next time around. Solutions? There are none. There are decisions.
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