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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 4, 2018 8:33:04 GMT -5
www.crosswalk.com/slideshows/married-sex-what-is-okay-with-god.html?p=1I liked a lot of this article. I like the forward approach. My first thought when I starting reading it was, " YES! Sex was made for marriage, this is why you leave your parents, get married, and live together. it's natural, it's expected. So why is the church so against you wanting to get divorced when you live in a SM?" The hypocrisy of " No sex?,too bad your stuck with it until death," v's "the only acceptable sex is in a marriage". Well, I look beyond peoples shallow, surface "religious, ceremonial beliefs". I take many, of the examples in "the word" and try to apply it daily, hourly, in a wide variety of circumstances. This article backs much of what is spoken on here, how vital sex is meant to be in a relationship. ( marriage or not) Think of ALL the AFFIRMATIVES that God approves of when it comes to sex in a marriage! Then think of all the denial anger, sin, frustration that has occurred in your SM. To me THAT is the meaning behind that little one liner "God hates divorce" that shallow churchy people ,like to throw out there. God HATES A SM too!,
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Post by hopingforachange on Feb 4, 2018 9:20:54 GMT -5
And when they try to say certain types of sex are not allowed. That's bull shit.
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 4, 2018 9:59:37 GMT -5
And when they try to say certain types of sex are not allowed. That's bull shit. Yea,, and don't forget leaving your parents. Then ( as my w. did) have your parents come into your house and be the center of everything! That really fucks up a marriage doesn't it! That aint biblical. On a side note( A nurse just came into our house to check on grandpa. my W runs to the nurse to tell her all about her daddy's condition. That's more attention than our marriage ever got for years! And I know why. My W. loves and needs having FULL CONTROL over the situation. Right in the center of our house for everyone else to put up with. To hell with what anyone else wants or thinks. Her aging daddy is a puppet on a string.) The same is said for using kids to not have sex. That aint biblical.
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 4, 2018 10:11:38 GMT -5
I also liked the no.5 that scheduled sex does have several payoffs. Especially with duel incomes and a whole basketball team of kids in the house!
It shouldn't matter (but it slightly does) to read and see such articles on a christian web sight. I like that.
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Post by obobfla on Feb 4, 2018 10:48:57 GMT -5
Truthfully, I am cautious when anyone tells me to do something because “God says so.” But then again, I grew up Catholic, where church leaders are all unmarried men and sent unmarried women in strange black outfits to teach us in school what God says. But it’s not just God. What I like is that the writer doesn’t just use the Bible to make his point but actual scientific research to make his point.
I also take sacred scriptures with a grain of salt. They were written thousands of years ago to a nomadic/agrarian culture where the scientific advances were not around. They were also translated several times before they finally made it into English. We don’t sell people into slavery anymore, and we wouldn’t drag Onan from his tent and stone him just for “spilling his seed.”
And science demands you to be critical. Always check the research. God knows how many ads say “a scientific study proves...” that this bullshit is real!
But when God and science agree, I think we should pay attention.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 16:38:38 GMT -5
Some churches are more sex positive than others. The anti-sex message is a misinterpretation of the Bible, which is actually very sexy!
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Post by hopingforachange on Feb 4, 2018 16:46:10 GMT -5
Except the story is about him not for filling his duties of father a child for his sister in law.
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Post by elkclan2 on Feb 5, 2018 2:35:09 GMT -5
Just a counterpoint, I'm not sure leaving your parents IS Biblical. Like most herding peoples of the bronze and iron age (OT) or even settled semi-urban families during the Roman era (NT) people lived in extended families. Yes, women often left their families, but only to live in extended families of their husband.
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 15, 2018 14:51:11 GMT -5
“And it came to pass, when he had been there a long time, that Abimelech king of the Philistines looked out at a window, and saw, and, behold, Isaac was sporting with Rebekah his wife.” (Genesis 26:8 KJV)
"sporting with" != "rooting" Maybe flirting....
I like this: “Strengthen me with raisins, refresh me with apples, for I am faint with love.” (Song of Solomon 2:5)
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Post by tsm on Mar 6, 2018 5:57:53 GMT -5
Song of Songs is full of sexual imagery....it even hints at cunnilingus!
Onan was struck down because he refused the duty of levirate marriage. When a man died with no heirs his brother or nearest relative had the duty of getting the widow pregnant to give an heir for the dead man. Onan "spilled his seed" while performing this act and refused to do his duty...he wasn't as is often implied cranking one out for stress relief...
It does indeed say, I believe in Genesis, that a man leaves his father and mother and cleaves to his wife and they become as one flesh.... Yes, they would often be in the same encampment, but they'd be in a different tent and they would have their own household.
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Post by baza on Mar 6, 2018 6:02:26 GMT -5
I have grave doubts that the Lord gives a rats arse about my sex life.
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Post by bballgirl on Mar 6, 2018 9:09:04 GMT -5
I have grave doubts that the Lord gives a rats arse about my sex life. I'm with you on that one! God does not care whether people have sex or don't. And like I tell my lover occasionally "don't say Oh God, she's not sucking ur dick I am, say my name!"
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Post by saarinista on Mar 7, 2018 1:47:14 GMT -5
I have grave doubts that the Lord gives a rats arse about my sex life. I don't know, baza ...from your writings, it sounds like you and ms. enna, I believe, are pretty randy. Maybe God is watching and smiling in approval! I grew up in a very conservative Lutheran denomination, where handshakes were about all that were encouraged. Sex was simply not discussed. Obviously, it was only for married people, I learned...whatever "it" was. I'm 57 and no longer that brand of Christian. I'm as liberal and non-dogmatic as Christians come. IMHO, churches need to be more concerned about keeping their clergy from sexually abusing members than with telling people what their sex lives should or shouldn't be like. Personally, I would recommend people to stay away from sex-negative faith groups. We ought to be focused on healing those who are hurting, feeding and clothing the hungry, treating others as we wish to be treated, etc. I don't know that I want to hear clergy talking much about sex on Sunday one way or the other-that seems kind of odd to me-but they should definitely be sex-positive in counseling couples who are getting married, not demonize divorice or extramarital sex, and just emphasize consensual feel-good stuff. Obviously, no one's advocating breaking up marriages for fun, but you know what I mean. People make mistakes, and the church needs to recognize and accept that. Forgiveness! Love your neighbor as/and yourself. When we focus on those things, everything else falls into its proper perspective. IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 16:04:00 GMT -5
I have grave doubts that the Lord gives a rats arse about my sex life. THIS.
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Post by greatcoastal on Mar 7, 2018 18:50:02 GMT -5
I have grave doubts that the Lord gives a rats arse about my sex life. Okay but did you read the article?
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