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Post by elkclan2 on Feb 2, 2018 9:59:42 GMT -5
Ugh - so I just got an email from my partner that he forwarded from his ex - the kids' mom. My partner only has them every other weekend and they live about 2-3 hour drive away. They are 9 and 11 and I have a 10yo - all boys. They all get on and I really look forward to family weekends with all of us.
1. She talked about her hurt feelings because 11yo is (according to her) rubbing it in how good it is here. She wanted my partner to provide a 'united front' with her on this - whatever that means! 11yo is a good, polite boy, but not without his issues (as you might expect). I do not know how much he is actually rubbing it in or how much he is just talking about what we do when he's with us. He talks about the fun stuff he does with his mom when he's with us - and I reckon he should feel perfectly ok doing that. He has never complained to me about his mother, but apparently he did with my partner's ex-girlfriend. But I only met him in July. He is verbally and physically affectionate with me.
2. She wanted us to spend a portion of our weekend taking the kids birthday shopping for her, which she said was 'only fair'. She has never shopped with the boys for my partner. We had a make-up Christmas this year because she had them Australia for a month over Christmas and the only thing they came back with was a blow-up Australia day hand for my son as a 'trip' present - which he loved! No trip present for their dad. (I certainly didn't expect her to take them Christmas shopping for me or for my son, but for their dad...well.) Because this was their first Christmas with me, I didn't realise. In future, I will take them shopping for their dad. The funny thing is - I totally agree that we should take them shopping for their mum! I don't mind at all. I mind more that she says it's for fairness sake.
I don't want to spend a lot of emotional energy on his ex. But just wanted to offload. On 2 the easiest thing to do is cheerfully shop for her birthday, but not spend tons of time. I'm more worried about 1. Grr.
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Post by worksforme2 on Feb 2, 2018 13:59:42 GMT -5
After I started dating following my 1st divorce I eventually met and had along term relationship with a woman who had 2 girls, roughly the same age as my sons. We did a lot of stuff as a blended group and the kids got along well. My sons especially like the girlfriend and as you would expect gave their mom rave reviews as to the weekends with me. Their mom wasn't too happy. There isn't much you can do about it, unless you choose to make their time there boring. You are already talking about some of the things they do with their mom, try playing up how much fun they must have had. Dad's and sons often do different things than what mom's and sons do. And it is to be expected that males will find the time spent with their dad rates a higher value than what is spent with their mom. Sorry, but that's just human nature.
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Post by WindSister on Feb 2, 2018 15:16:09 GMT -5
Bio Mom might be "flexing her Mom muscles" a bit with you and her ex. The whole "united front" thing would annoy the hell out of me. Just keep being you, as you have a level head and nothing to worry about. The weirdness comes and goes depending what is going on, but as long as you keep level, you get through it unscathed.
Blended families are a tricky business.
Step-parents have zero room for error because they don't receive the forgiveness/patience bio parents get. Steps are scrutinized, criticized, and "put up with" even when things are REALLY REALLY good. I am "Jama" to the grand kids and things are GOOD but there is always... something there.... I am dad's wife.... a little wall is always up. A little edge. SOOO.. on that point, I would not let your "almost bonus son" complain about his mom to you or let that ever go in that direction as eventually that would come back to haunt you. In the end, having her back in front of the kids will always be the best idea, so, yes helping them shop for her - good idea! You can complain here how sucky it feels.. (if we are being real, it does rather suck). Kids will most always choose their BIO parent and throw others under the bus if given reason or a choice.
Look for more flexing from that mom - she now sees this is serious, you aren't going away, and she is threatened. It's not your fault and you can be sweet as pie to her, but it's not about you, it's what you represent. The fact she turned to her ex for condolence over her "hurt feelings" is quite irritating. I question her emotional maturity. She does seem a bit one-sided. Have you met her?
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Post by northstarmom on Feb 2, 2018 15:48:43 GMT -5
“She wanted us to spend a portion of our weekend taking the kids birthday shopping for her, which she said was 'only fair'. “
Why not encourage your partner to do that? It seems appropriate even though she doesn’t do it for his gift. I don’t see any reason for you to be involved.
I’d also suggest that your husband gently tell his sons not to talk that much to their mom about their great times with you. Perhaps he could use as the reason the fact that their mom misses them when they aren’t with her. I had to do something similar when my sons would tell my mom about their fun times with my husband’s mom. Truth was, my mom was jealous of my mil but I didn’t tell my boys that.
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Post by elkclan2 on Feb 2, 2018 17:02:46 GMT -5
I actually really, really don't mind the shopping. I have met her and been to her house (briefly). She was ok. In other circumstances I might have liked her, as my partner has a sort of type (it's not looks, it's clever, sciencey, not very girly women). Obviously a bit nervous. I was, too. I think my partner doesn't want me to have to do it and so he will probably take them out to do it, but I don't care either way. WindSister I have always stood up for her when he complains about her the way that all kids complain about parents - so yes, he has complained but just normal kid resentments of being made to do what they ought to do! And yes, emotionally immature - yes. She is apparently very quick to anger, very happy to manipulate the kids, and very, very one-sided in things (including with her kids), but I'm not sure that she's actually aware of that, and of course I hear this from a very biased source. But yes... for example, my partner has to have to separate shoes for the kids because she won't let them wear their casual shoes she buys when they are with him. But he also has to take HER shoes, so they can change into them in the car before he brings them back. Same with overcoats. It's weird. @worksforme - I have no intention of making their time here boring, but we don't go out of the way to make it exciting either (I mean, yes sometimes...) however, we're all still in the honeymoon phase, so I expect that it is more fun and exciting now - esp as they get on so well with my son and have a blast. But I'm trying to make everything more normal gradually, for example, we only just introduced the first daily chore to my 'almost bonus kids', it's just clearing the table- but it's a job for all children, whether at my house or his and no matter what combination of children are at the table. And no kick back from either set! Well, a little bit of 'awww...' but we explained that I cook, my partner cleans up after and children clear table so everyone contributes. northstarmom we talked it over. Whatever the rights and wrongs of it, it's his job to help his son navigate relationships and it's my job to support my partner in parenting his kids (and vice versa). It is not clear if he was just talking about fun times or if he was throwing stuff in her face - he is a bit of a smart arse (her words). Personally, I like a smart arse, but all smart arses need to learn when to zip it. Either way, dad is going to gently suggest that he tones it down. He has to get 11yo on his own to have this chat and I will facilitate that by taking the other two to do something.
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Post by WindSister on Feb 2, 2018 17:28:17 GMT -5
Oh, elkclan2 , you got this! Not that I am an expert, lol. But, yeah, you are doing great! It does sound like your man is responsible and steps up too. Personal opinion, I think kids should be allowed to be kids and not have to worry so hard about adult issues. They will have different types of relationships with each set. Mom is responsible for mom's feelings, not her kids and you guys, too. oiy!!! Telling an 11 Year Old what to say, where is a lot to put on his shoulders , I think But, Yeah, Parenting about being thoughtful is different. The seperate coat and shoes thing Is Just Too Much!!! Lol Wow!!
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Post by elkclan2 on May 2, 2018 9:53:36 GMT -5
Ughhh - bio mom is defo flexing her muscles and chipping away at their time here in London. I'm actually at the pissed off level now as she clearly sees me as more of a threat now that I've been with my partner for a year. He started a relationship with me soon after his previous one finished and she HATED his ex. (I'm not so crazy about her either.) I'm also seeing signs that she's trying to play the loyalty game with the 9yr old. Grrrr.
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Post by WindSister on May 2, 2018 10:40:40 GMT -5
Ughhh - bio mom is defo flexing her muscles and chipping away at their time here in London. I'm actually at the pissed off level now as she clearly sees me as more of a threat now that I've been with my partner for a year. He started a relationship with me soon after his previous one finished and she HATED his ex. (I'm not so crazy about her either.) I'm also seeing signs that she's trying to play the loyalty game with the 9yr old. Grrrr. Those games suck so bad. You just keep being wonderful you!
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Post by baza on May 2, 2018 22:33:45 GMT -5
Seems to me that you are doing a real good job with this problem Sister elkclan2 - and it sure is a "better" problem to have than the intractable problem of being in an ILIASM shithole ! In reality, you have a limited relationship with the kids mother (and probably this is a real good thing) and parental *united fronts* in regard to the kids are really something your bloke and her have to sort out between themselves. I don't think you can be a major player in that particular relationship between those two. OTOH, you have quite a close relationship with his kids (and this is a real good thing) and the *united front* you and your bloke present in your house is something you have already sorted out. I think you are managing the assorted relationships and inter-relationships and inter/inter relationships in play in this dynamic really well. It looks like you are taking responsibility for your assorted relationships with your bloke, your kid, his kids, his ex at appropriate levels. How everyone else in the dynamic chooses to handle their various relationships with the other persons and personalities is a matter you don't have a real lot of control over.
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Post by elkclan2 on Jul 7, 2018 2:54:53 GMT -5
Crazy ex is at it again. A series of horrible emails to my partner this week. Rambling, shite stuff, contradictory. But also she's now saying that coming her makes her kids feel like he doesn't love them enough. That they're spending too much time with me and my son. He had to call her to clarify this weekend's plan and she said that she's feeling overwhelmed and has been having thoughts of walking away.
My ex is also kicking off a bit.
When it rains it pours.
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Post by okiedude on Jul 14, 2018 13:06:54 GMT -5
There are so many dynamics. You can't make her happy it is Mom against Disney land dad. She deals with day to day and they get to have fun with dad. You are just the brunt because it is expected for dad to want to have fun but she can put her anger on you because you are not expected to be a pull....my parents divorced when I was 7 and my mom did everything she could to hurt the relationship we had with our dad and his wife....
Really that relationship is not your problem. You do what you think is right for the kids and yourself and your man. She will never be happy.
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