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Post by Dan on Jan 11, 2018 13:00:49 GMT -5
My 26-year-old son had car trouble last week and needed my help. Flat tire, and his jack was busted... from the last time he tried to change the tire on his own. So we called for roadside assistance. I drove my 19-year-old son down to a disciplinary hearing at his college yesterday and have been emailing and talking to deans on the phone all morning. My 26-year-old son had more car troubles today. Someone slashed his tire! He knew how to call roadside assistance, but I had to coach him through filing a police report. My 17-year-old daughter is simultaneously too confident and under-confident, and needs constant minor "attitude adjustments" and yet a fair deal of encouragement and propping-up. In other words: my life is a continuous episode of Father Knows Best! Say... I wonder if Jim and Margaret had trouble in the bedroom, too. If so: then -- by gum -- I think I am his reincarnation...
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Post by h on Jan 11, 2018 13:52:32 GMT -5
Didn't married couples sleep in separate beds in all those old shows?
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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 11, 2018 14:01:59 GMT -5
Didn't married couples sleep in separate beds in all those old shows? Yea...and all the men on "The Andy Griffith Show" where single.....except the town drunk.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 14:14:29 GMT -5
Do you want to adopt me, ha ha?
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Post by baza on Jan 11, 2018 17:23:07 GMT -5
All good (bad) things come to an end. That show went off the air in 1960 (according to Wikipedia)
Most of the shows that we, the ILIASM membership are playing roles in, continue to be churned out, despite the abysmal ratings.
I seem to recall that Robert Young went on to star in "Marcus Welby MD" - not sure what medical specialty he dabbled in in that show, it was probably to do with deviant sexual practices involving Jane Wyatt and the Australian cricket team (but I may be just projecting here).
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Post by Caris on Jan 11, 2018 19:06:09 GMT -5
I know what you mean. One day, I want to wake up and no one has a problem, and I can relax and just chill.
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Post by northstarmom on Jan 12, 2018 7:48:19 GMT -5
“I drove my 19-year-old son down to a disciplinary hearing at his college yesterday and have been emailing and talking to deans on the phone all morning.”
While we were married, my ex (who was a great dad) with my full support flew 1,000 miles to meet with deans along with older son when older son finished first semester of college with a .33 average. Older son kept his full scholarship got all sorts of support from the college but still flunked our second semester. It ended up that fresh year, he had gotten into heavy drinking. That came out a couple years later.
I don’t know if you had done what I’d done to get your son into college, but I had literally stood over him to make sure he got his Apple cations in.
If I could do things over, son would have had to deal with college problems on his own. That includes his applying to college without my structuring him. That may have led to his not getting in or his getting kicked out first semester which would have led to his either living home and paying rent (our rulesfor healthy offspring not in school) or he would have had to find a way of living on his own as a responsible adult.
It took him years to become responsible. It didn’t help that Husband’s parents swooped in and gave son a car and money, and s-i-l let son live rent free when husband and I refused due to son’s irresponsibility.
Applied the lessons to younger son. Did not organize him so applications were done. He missed the deadlines. Two weeks later, he had gotten an offer of an Americorps job at a place where he had been a longtime volunteer. He said he wanted to live in an apartment. I pointed him to the classifieds and even told him of a friend who needed a house sitter. He took no action on getting an apartment so spent a year paying rent at home while working for Anmericorps. Without my help, he applied to college and transported himself to an out of town scholarship interview. We co-signed for a loan to the college of his choice but gave him no money for his first year because while his SATs were 98th percentile, which would have qualified him for full tides, he had barely passed high school.
We told him he had to pass freshmen year for us to invest our money in his college education.
He worked up to 15 hours a week in college, took up to 20 credits a semester, had leadership positions in organizations and graduated on time with honors and awards from his department. He now is 29 and self supporting in a field that it is very difficult to find jobs in.
I wish someone had told me this my older son’s freshman year.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 12, 2018 8:42:24 GMT -5
A lot of "father knows best" was me wanting to say "no" to my kids and have them do things for themselves. Only to have my parenting "controlled" by my W. So many times things would have to be done "her way".
Here is where the divorce comes in to play. My older sons (18 and over) who where taught and told how to do for themselves,will have to choose to remain with their mother, or find a roommate to rent with.
This is going to sound very cold. It pains me to share it. my therapist told me one day about our oldest," your W created that monster, she needs to deal with it,and fix it". A difficult pill to swallow, but it's for the best. I have others to think about. Tough love. This carries over into my divorce and size and location of housing. Big changes are going to happen. my son will be forced to be independent or cling to mother. Sadly he has been allowed to cling to mother.
Then there's my youngest boy. Abandoned at age 8, brought to America at age 10. He is very independent. Going to H.S., college, working 25 hrs. a week, sports teams, dating, bought his own car with his own earned money, all before turning 17. last night he asked me to do him a small favor, "would I please put his clothes in the dryer when the buzzer goes off? (he was leaving for work) I did just that. I also folded everything for him while he was at work. He can't wait to be away from his mom and be independent.
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Post by worksforme2 on Jan 12, 2018 9:11:56 GMT -5
One thing I learned in economics is that when ever you subsidize something you generally get more of it, whether it is milk production or irresponsibility. I have often had to be stricter with my sons than I might have been had their mother not instilled in them at an early age that they were entitled to things just because they showed up. If they showed up for a baseball game they were entitled to play, even if they weren't going to make much effort to play well. As they grew up she had them believing I should be taking them on all sorts of trips and vacations because I had the money to do so. Instead I made them mow lawns and when old enough get part time jobs to earn date and gas money.(I did buy them cars and pay their insurance) I made it clear to them as they grew older that when they were adults all an entitlement attitude was likely to get them was a bridge over the interstate to live under. Perhaps a bit more tough love and a little less enabling should find it's way into your parenting.
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Post by tamara68 on Jan 12, 2018 9:32:49 GMT -5
My ex has always had an attitude of being entitled to everything from everyone. End result: no job, no marriage, nothing accomplished and no prospects for the future.
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Post by jim44444 on Jan 12, 2018 16:03:33 GMT -5
I know what you mean. One day, I want to wake up and no one has a problem, and I can relax and just chill. Yeah, we all have some crazy fantasies. I fear the day I wake up and no one has a problem will be the day I do not wake up.
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