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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 30, 2017 8:41:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 22:54:32 GMT -5
greatcoastal, it doesn't have to be this way. But YOU have to get out there and make the friends and commit to the friendship. In the past five years, I've made two really good new male friends, and I'm working on a third. I have a goal of making two more in the next two years. One I met from a dirt bikes forum. At first, our kids were part of the glue, but his boy lost interest. He and I ride together without kids. Even have raced together. Another guy is more like a mentor. I met him at church. We meet every Tuesday morning at a local Starbucks before work. He now consults with my business. Hopefully he'll help me with my difficult business partner. Another I met a few months ago at a Toastmasters meeting. He invited my son and me to a sold out symposium on nuclear power in the third millinium. I'm joining that group, and I suspect we can also become good friends. My marriage was stifling. Or more accurately, I was stifling myself for some reason. Allit takes is a commitment to make the investment. There are people out there of every age wanting to make friends too. You just have to find them and make the investment. This is no different than when I was in my 20s. Even then, the only folks that were available for friendship were the ones displaced from their homes. I had trouble making friends with locals. They had all the friends and family they needed. The ones that had moved to these places by themselves were more open to making new friends.
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Post by baza on Dec 31, 2017 23:47:57 GMT -5
"Why is it hard to make friends over 30?"
I may be projecting my own experiences here, but is that statement above actually true ?
As a young bloke (say 21/25) "most" of my friends were of similar age but I did have a couple of older friends, one about 35, another 37. Like Brother @creelunion , one of these was a bit more like a mentor, but it was a good solid friendship as well.
Nowadays, I am waaaay beyond 30, and most of my friends these days are probably 50/70, but there are a couple of young (under 30's) in that mix as well.
If I like someone, and find them engaging / interesting etc, the age doesn't really have much relevance to me.
Mind you, interesting and engaging people don't grow on trees in my experience. But those who do come up, are not necessarily unique to a particular age group.
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Post by worksforme2 on Jan 1, 2018 7:35:38 GMT -5
I think for males in general we don't often have the kind of friendships where there is a lot of real bonding and almost kinship happening. Having been married for a long time I expect your friendships from bachelor days are long gone and you mostly spent time with your W's friends. Now it's time to make new friends for you. I would suggest the easiest route would be through something like MEETUP. Doing things you enjoy with others who enjoy that activity gives you some common ground. Other shared interests might work their way into the conversation and then into reality. Or find a place to volunteer. Volunteer work attracts people from all walks of life and all ages. And people who are willing to give of themselves for others tend to be pretty decent folks generally speaking. Otherwise they wouldn't be giving their time and talents away to those less fortunate. There are all sorts of community service organizations and they are always looking for volunteers.
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Post by M2G on Jan 1, 2018 8:38:10 GMT -5
For me, it's because my W has ejected everyone from her life, including me, and never converses with anyone. Never leaves the house except for absolute necessity.
I'm more of a social person - shit, I'm in sales (which W seems to hate even though it supports our family). I make a lot of friends that way all over the country, however there are none locally anymore. I started getting out more - joined a gym. Thinking about yoga also. W is not seeming to like that for whatever reason. Its out of her control, probably.
I have a friend at work that I get on pretty well with - his W dumped him for "the party life" several years back, now he's happily re-married to a great woman who's more attuned to what he wants and needs, and he to hers. I'm very happy for him. I talk religion a lot with him too - very open minded. Thinking one of these days I'll surprise them and pop in for a Sunday service - another way to make friends. Also did some research on the sect - probably more in tune with my beliefs than most.
I just sit in the house nowadays with someone who always thinks the worst of me, doesn't like what I like anymore, has little respect for me as a person and really, as I feel right now, doesn;t care if I live or die.
Gotta make more friends.
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Post by shamwow on Jan 1, 2018 9:53:13 GMT -5
Easy to make male friends. First, acquire a drinking problem. Second let that particular brand of insanity rule your life. Third, realize you have a problem and start going to AA. From there you will be able to meet many other guys (often single guys) who you can hang out with as often as you like. Often this is several times per week 😉 It's funny, though, even though I never thought I'd rebuild my social circle through alcoholics anonymous these are some really great guys and I'm honored to call them brothers.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 1, 2018 10:08:02 GMT -5
Easy to make male friends. First, acquire a drinking problem. Second let that particular brand of insanity rule your life. Third, realize you have a problem and start going to AA. From there you will be able to meet many other guys (often single guys) who you can hang out with as often as you like. Often this is several times per week 😉 It's funny, though, even though I never thought I'd rebuild my social circle through alcoholics anonymous these are some really great guys and I'm honored to call them brothers. I do have a drinking problem. One beer would make me jolly, and turn my stomach! (my last drink was 40 yrs ago) I did go to a bar recently to observe and have dinner. Interestingly enough I was able to be a friend with a man who was there for much the same reason as I was. He lives in a SM! Now your getting into men letting down their guard and admitting that they are stressed ,abused, and lonely from having to wear the fake mask of "manning up to everything".
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Post by northstarmom on Jan 1, 2018 12:30:48 GMT -5
It’s hard because in general, unlike when we were in school, we don’t spend a lot of time with people (except perhaps for spouse, kids) who share our interests and diversions. Many people also tend to when they get in a romantic relationships, abandon longtime friends.
To make friends as an adult,it helps to get involved independently of your spouse in an activity outside your home in an activity that interests you. I made a close friend by serving on the board of the parent organization of my son’s high school. 15 years later, she is like a sister. Other close friends including some 20 years younger were people I met via community theater. Lots of time to bond during rehearsals and building sets.
Even if one has a great marriage, having at least one interest of your own and maintaining some friendships without your spouse (eg doing an occasional girls weekend or going to a game or participating in a sponrt with same gender friends) gives you more to talk about with your spouse than the same old stuff. All marriages end in death or divorce, so it is important to not do everything as a couple or else your life will be barrenn if your marriage ends. If you only hang out with other couples, you are apt to be left out by them if you no longer are with your mate.
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Post by shamwow on Jan 1, 2018 12:31:04 GMT -5
Easy to make male friends. First, acquire a drinking problem. Second let that particular brand of insanity rule your life. Third, realize you have a problem and start going to AA. From there you will be able to meet many other guys (often single guys) who you can hang out with as often as you like. Often this is several times per week 😉 It's funny, though, even though I never thought I'd rebuild my social circle through alcoholics anonymous these are some really great guys and I'm honored to call them brothers. I do have a drinking problem. One beer would make me jolly, and turn my stomach! (my last drink was 40 yrs ago) I did go to a bar recently to observe and have dinner. Interestingly enough I was able to be a friend with a man who was there for much the same reason as I was. He lives in a SM! Now your getting into men letting down their guard and admitting that they are stressed ,abused, and lonely from having to wear the fake mask of "manning up to everything". I envy your drinking problem, friend...
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Post by greatcoastal on Jan 1, 2018 13:40:04 GMT -5
I do have a drinking problem. One beer would make me jolly, and turn my stomach! (my last drink was 40 yrs ago) I did go to a bar recently to observe and have dinner. Interestingly enough I was able to be a friend with a man who was there for much the same reason as I was. He lives in a SM! Now your getting into men letting down their guard and admitting that they are stressed ,abused, and lonely from having to wear the fake mask of "manning up to everything". I envy your drinking problem, friend... Was I boasting? It could easily sound that way,sorry if it came out like that. I actually fear how easily I COULD rely on alcohol,so I avoid it, after a close call in my early teens. I definitely have flaws, hangups, problems, concerns, addictions,etc......How much time have you got?
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Post by shamwow on Jan 1, 2018 15:10:46 GMT -5
I envy your drinking problem, friend... Was I boasting? It could easily sound that way,sorry if it came out like that. I actually fear how easily I COULD rely on alcohol,so I avoid it, after a close call in my early teens. I definitely have flaws, hangups, problems, concerns, addictions,etc......How much time have you got? Not boasting, brother. And no offense taken. I still do envy your drinking "problem" though. You can't have the first drink and I cannot stop at the first drink, that's all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:21:11 GMT -5
I have no friends, at least not in 1000 miles. I tried a meet up vegan group. I know it would be mostly women but I gave it a shot. It started with a prayer and I was expected to hold hands. I refused and it was an issue. That lasted 5 minutes...
I tried the sailing club. Took 2 guys sailing. They got so drunk. I never had drink in my life....
Then there are the trump supporters. Seems I have run into everyone...
I find that is is so hard to find capable and conscientious people. I will never understand how this whole mess keeps going.
guess I am too picky..
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Post by northstarmom on Jan 18, 2018 12:18:14 GMT -5
Lost soul if politics is important to you, get involved in your political party and become an activist in issues that matter to you. This includes joining local and national FB groups for your party and issues. Volunteer with political campaigns. Campaigns always need volunteers, and the people who volunteer are likely to share your values and not spend their time drinking to drunkenness as occurred on the sailing meetup..
I had a hard time making friends during my first 13 years in my Bible Belt city. Then, I found our progressive community and developed lots of friendships including with the man who years later became my Post sm lover and the love of my life. I found that people with similar political opinions tended to go to the same religious/spiritual/agnostic activities. Tended to like similar restaurants, arts, social and fitness activities.
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Post by h on Jan 18, 2018 12:33:51 GMT -5
It is hard to make friends as an adult. Most of my oldest friends faded out of my life as they got married and started families. Most of the new people I meet in my age group already have children and thus, no time for a social life. I'm not a fan of the bar scene and there's really not much else to do around here so that limits my opportunities to meet new people. Add onto that the fact that I have 2 jobs, a house to maintain, and am reaching the point where I need to be in bed by 9:00 most nights in order to function at work. Life gets in the way the older I get and it becomes nearly impossible to schedule time to see the few friends that I still have, let alone make new ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 22:34:27 GMT -5
Lost soul if politics is important to you, get involved in your political party and become an activist in issues that matter to you. This includes joining local and national FB groups for your party and issues. Volunteer with political campaigns. Campaigns always need volunteers, and the people who volunteer are likely to share your values and not spend their time drinking to drunkenness as occurred on the sailing meetup.. I had a hard time making friends during my first 13 years in my Bible Belt city. Then, I found our progressive community and developed lots of friendships including with the man who years later became my Post sm lover and the love of my life. I found that people with similar political opinions tended to go to the same religious/spiritual/agnostic activities. Tended to like similar restaurants, arts, social and fitness activities. North starmom, me in politics, lol. It is not the politics but the idiocy. You know, years ago, my friends in Mensa said this was the inevitable eventuality. I wish I had friends but it is not so bad that I dont. Save
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