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Post by baza on Aug 20, 2017 23:55:03 GMT -5
This observation is prompted by a post from our esteemed - and lateral thinking - Sister bballgirl on another thread. That thread was actually in the "Post SM" folder and was relevant to fresh dating scenarios and the main thrust was that a potential datee who gives you the arse after a short while has actually done you a favour by not wasting your time any further, leaving you "free" to avail yourself of the "next opportunity". I think however that it has wider applications than that, particularly an ILIASM shithole. If your spouse is continually rejecting you in such a scenario, they are doing you a favour by re-affirming their rejective attitude to you, letting you know in no uncertain terms that the deal is pretty much done and that what you see is what you are going to continually get (or not get I guess). At every individual rejection, you are provided with this stark reminder, and it is an opportunity for you to reflect on that, and consider whether you want to go on with the deal under those circumstances. What you might choose to do in light of these "reminders" is another matter, but the "reminders" in and of themselves are very valuable. Unfortunately these "reminders" are delivered up in a very unpleasant and hurtful manner - rejection - which hurts like fuck and gets you concentrating on your hurt feelings and trashed self esteem rather than seeing them for the "reminders" they actually are. So your spouses rejective behaviour is in fact doing you a favour. They are providing you with a string of "reminders". You may - or may not - choose to act on these reminders. PS - thanks again Sister bballgirl for that post
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Post by brian on Aug 21, 2017 4:55:58 GMT -5
This is exactly how I treat the rejections I get... as reminders. I often even try to have fun with it, seeing how strong of a reaction I can get or watching her contort her facial expression or seeing what she'll do. I had a lot of fun when I "asked" for her "assistance" after my recent vasectomy where I was supposed to ejaculate 20 times before sending in a sample... more scared than a deer in headlights. Or I have purposely gone to bed with my hand on my privates to see what she'll do when she enters the room. I keep mental note of all of the different excuses/reasons she gives for not having sex.
To me, this is a game. It's the only way that I can be sane about it.
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Post by bballgirl on Aug 21, 2017 6:13:59 GMT -5
This is exactly how I treat the rejections I get... as reminders. I often even try to have fun with it, seeing how strong of a reaction I can get or watching her contort her facial expression or seeing what she'll do. I had a lot of fun when I "asked" for her "assistance" after my recent vasectomy where I was supposed to ejaculate 20 times before sending in a sample... more scared than a deer in headlights. Or I have purposely gone to bed with my hand on my privates to see what she'll do when she enters the room. I keep mental note of all of the different excuses/reasons she gives for not having sex. To me, this is a game. It's the only way that I can be sane about it. I get that, I used to send my ex a suggestive sexy text just to see his response. In the end he told me and a therapist it was a turnoff when I did that and put pressure on him. It was an excuse. The text didn't turn him off it was clearly me.
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Post by ironhamster on Aug 21, 2017 6:27:31 GMT -5
I like the idea of making it a game. I have not been rejected much for a long time, because I stopped asking, because I got tired of the rejection. Maybe I should start up, again, and keep score. I'm pretty sure how it will all play out.
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Post by bballgirl on Aug 21, 2017 7:14:18 GMT -5
The crazy thing after so many years of rejection from the ex it doesn't hurt me emotionally if a man isn't attracted to me or interested. Granted I do have my fwb and I have kept his attraction and attention for over 3 years now so I imagine that helps my psyche as well as my libido. The other crazy thing is I'm thinking about allowing my ex to reject me one more time but I won't go there before 2018 and I will reevaluate my feelings which may change. In the meantime I have a coffee date on Tuesday night and a second dinner date Saturday night. I'm going to give myself a chance to date and continue to resist my feelings about my ex, as becca said "I may be looking for something with him that doesn't exist".
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Post by greatcoastal on Aug 21, 2017 7:46:27 GMT -5
I like baza's post very much. In my own words, "my stbx is constantly re-affirming my correct decision to end our marriage, by showing her rejection.". Our "conversations" are down to the bare minimum ,about following through with responsibilities. Much of it comes down to finances and allowing our older teens to be more like adults. The entire family is now very aware of my STBX's first response to most situations, "no". Then comes the DARVO.
I encounter less and less of it because I stand up to it, call it out, and counter reject it. She mostly retreats, and then tries to continue her manipulation through control of money and teens. My teens struggle greatly with this, because this is their mother, who they have been raised to fear, not question, and concede to.
Dealing with rejection from other woman during the divorce process and what it will be like after ,will be an entire different story.
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Post by shamwow on Aug 21, 2017 9:13:54 GMT -5
I think Mark Manson sums up what baza says well...
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