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Post by litnerd on Jan 2, 2017 0:33:52 GMT -5
I've been mostly avoiding interaction outside of with a few friends and family. I tend to keep to myself at the end of my pregnancies, and then adjusting to life with a newborn is always a roller coaster (adding the holidays was also super fun). I deleted social media apps from my phone today because they've done almost nothing but feed my depression and anxiety.
I had my baby in early November. He was perfectly healthy and a respectable 9 lbs and 22". He's now 8 weeks old and wearing 6-9 month sized clothing.
Prior to his birth, my marriage was actually improving. Sexlessness aside, H had been making efforts to show affection in ways that were more apparent to me. He took 4 weeks off of work when baby was born, and it was the only paternity leave of 3 that didn't leave me feeling homicidal by the time he returned to work. I'm sure it helped that there was no expectation of sex since I didn't see my doctor again until 6 weeks postpartum, but H was also helpful, kind, and supportive. The only disagreement we had was whether or not this was our last baby. He wants another one and, despite how it kills me to know that I'm effectively destroying the only reason he'd willingly have sex with me, I don't want to be pregnant again. Since I've had extreme reactions to every hormonal form of birth control and have a bad negative reaction to general anesthesia, I want him to get a vasectomy. He doesn't want to (I'm still not convinced that his reason for wanting another kid is to avoid the snip, but he did tell me when we were dating that he wanted a lot of kids).
I'm a big birth and breastfeeding advocate (one of the big reasons I love breastfeeding is because it obliterates my libido for upwards of a year), and nursing this baby has had quite a few challenges. I actually have an appointment this week to see a dentist who can cut baby's lip (and possible tongue) tie. Because nursing is painful and inefficient, I spend A LOT of time on the couch. When I'm not nursing the baby (who also doesn't like to sleep unless he's on me), I'm attempting to keep the 4.5 and 3 year old alive. This means that dinners often consist of sandwiches and boxed mac & cheese. And that very little cleaning is taking place while he's working 60 hour weeks and I'm trying to survive.
Today, I was informed that all I do is sit around and let the kids do whatever they want. This was after I busted my ass for 2 days with a pulled back muscle to make sure we had good snacks and alcohol for our first NYE together. He had been excited about not working NYE or the next morning (we've never spent NYE together in our relationship because of his work schedule), but apparently something changed. I kept the kids at my in laws' until H was off work, so they'd fall asleep on the way home. Long story short, he fell asleep on the couch at 9:15. I took the baby and went to bed, where H decided to join us (he's been sleeping on the couch because he freaks out about having the baby in our bed, and I can't always stay awake enough to transfer baby back to his cosleeper after a feed). Of course, baby wanted to nurse all night, so ended up staying in our bed most of the night last night...and H woke up pissed. If I didn't know better, I'd think he wanted sex.
Because of child care issues, I had to cancel my last 3 therapy sessions before the baby, and I haven't been able to conquer my anxiety to make the call and go back. Next week, I lose my "go-to" sitter because my mom will be staying with my teenage sister who's having a bone marrow transplant and will be gone for several months (the BMT team have said they're optimistically looking at 6 months before my sister can come home). I'm sure the lack of therapy isn't helping my dreadful view of life in general, but talking about plans to possibly finish my degree and work towards a career that wouldn't suck my soul dry with my best friend of 16 years has helped. I just have to convince H that going back to school is a good idea. And without saying things like "I need to be able to support myself."
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Post by eternaloptimism on Jan 2, 2017 5:24:18 GMT -5
Aah fuck his pissy NYE attitude. You, my lovely new mother, are doing stupendously!
Congratulations!!!!
You have so much going on at the moment, I think just surviving another day is a major achievement!
But he wants more kids too? Bloody hell. Sounds like he's on a mission to have you shackled to the house with a constant baby bump!
Just know you are doing brilliantly. Focus on you and the little ones until you become the real you again and can focus on the future.
Kisses and hugs to you and your babies xxx
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Post by tamara68 on Jan 2, 2017 5:47:20 GMT -5
"all you do is sit around" !!! I can't believe he dares to say that. It is incredible what you do, he should be proud of you and supporting.
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Post by nancyb on Jan 2, 2017 7:52:03 GMT -5
Your focus right now need to be on your new baby and children. Your H sounds like a bit a jerk from your story. Just saying. Breastfeeding to suppress libido? I always found the opposite to be true. . I sure hope your sister's okay .
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Post by shamwow on Jan 2, 2017 8:20:10 GMT -5
I'm a guy so can't say I truly understand your situation. Kids are awesome. Mine are now at an age where they are more self-reliant every day, but to get to that point sucked quite a bit of life out of my wife, myself, and our marriage.
I really feel for your situation, but I would strongly advise no more kids. If your husband won't get "snipped" I would get your tubes tied. It is a rare thing to see a strained relationship improve by adding more people to it.
Hopefully your husband's desire for more kids isn't just an attempt to keep you "barefoot and pregnant." I know many guys even in this day and age who think that way (eespecially the more devout ones).
If you are looking to go to college (or get some other kind of marketable training), the way I would phrase it is that you need time with other adults and/or want to improve yourself.
The reason I say "marketable skills" rather than college is because a degree is expensive. If you want to strike out on your own eventually, depending on where you live, I believe that can be considered in his favor when dividing marital assets.
Perhapss something like photography, nursing, etc that don't require a degree to get started might be a better choice than a college degree given your situation. And this is spoken from someone with a couple degrees myself. It isn't any kind of guarantee.
Again, congrats on the baby, and my sympathies on the relationship. Keep venting. We are all going through tough ssituations and support each other.
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Post by bballgirl on Jan 2, 2017 9:14:53 GMT -5
Congratulations!! This is a very stressful time in a marriage when you are in the baby phase. If you don't want to be pregnant again then he has to respect your wishes for your body. Babies are tough on a marriage but your H and you should find time to cultivate the marriage too. As well enjoy that baby, they grow up so fast!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 10:14:24 GMT -5
Aww, Litnerd, I'm with EO. If, at the end of the day, you have made it through and no one is dead, seriously injured, or suffering from major neglect, you deserve a pat on the back. I'm serious. It really is THAT hard when the kiddos are underfoot like that. Give yourself credit for keeping everyone alive and fed, girl! (And love everyone the best you can - including yourself.)
Maybe take it one day at a time at this point. Although I was seriously unhappy in my marriage even back when my kids were babies, I personally couldn't have thought about making a plan to leave. Just get through each day the best you can and the rest will come in good time.
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Post by eternaloptimism on Jan 2, 2017 10:30:34 GMT -5
Your focus right now need to be on your new baby and children. Your H sounds like a bit a jerk from your story. Just saying. Breastfeeding to suppress libido? I always found the opposite to be true. . I sure hope your sister's okay . I was that way too Nanc. Boobs are wicked when they are in production mode.... I actually had some ha ha
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Post by litnerd on Jan 2, 2017 11:02:34 GMT -5
Aah fuck his pissy NYE attitude. You, my lovely new mother, are doing stupendously! Congratulations!!!! You have so much going on at the moment, I think just surviving another day is a major achievement! But he wants more kids too? Bloody hell. Sounds like he's on a mission to have you shackled to the house with a constant baby bump! Just know you are doing brilliantly. Focus on you and the little ones until you become the real you again and can focus on the future. Kisses and hugs to you and your babies xxx I don't think he necessarily wants me shackled to the house, because he's been pretty vocal about wanting me to go back to work and he knows that won't happen until the kids are older because child care is so expensive. With the 3 young ones (the 11 year old is finally old enough to not need after school care), I would barely make enough to cover daycare costs. The only reason I can fathom for wanting more kids is because he doesn't want a vasectomy. He did claim during this last pregnancy, that my being pregnant was a turn on (not that it made any difference in my sex life...maybe he masturbated more?).
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Post by litnerd on Jan 2, 2017 11:10:32 GMT -5
Your focus right now need to be on your new baby and children. Your H sounds like a bit a jerk from your story. Just saying. Breastfeeding to suppress libido? I always found the opposite to be true. . I sure hope your sister's okay . Luckily, breastfeeding hormones have always killed my drive. With my first 2 pregnancies, my libido didn't even begin to come back for 7 months, and it was almost 2 years after my last baby before I felt like it was back to normal. He is a jerk. It's an occupational hazard (he's in law enforcement). He's just not typically this much of a jerk to me. My sister's battling cancer, actually. She just completed chemotherapy, and her recent PET scan showed no more tumors and bone regrowth. She is jumping right into the BMT to treat her immunodeficiency disease so that the risk of the cancer reoccurring is lower. Luckily, we have a large family, and one of my brothers was her perfect bone marrow match.
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Post by eternaloptimism on Jan 2, 2017 11:16:24 GMT -5
Aah fuck his pissy NYE attitude. You, my lovely new mother, are doing stupendously! Congratulations!!!! You have so much going on at the moment, I think just surviving another day is a major achievement! But he wants more kids too? Bloody hell. Sounds like he's on a mission to have you shackled to the house with a constant baby bump! Just know you are doing brilliantly. Focus on you and the little ones until you become the real you again and can focus on the future. Kisses and hugs to you and your babies xxx I don't think he necessarily wants me shackled to the house, because he's been pretty vocal about wanting me to go back to work and he knows that won't happen until the kids are older because child care is so expensive. With the 3 young ones (the 11 year old is finally old enough to not need after school care), I would barely make enough to cover daycare costs. The only reason I can fathom for wanting more kids is because he doesn't want a vasectomy. He did claim during this last pregnancy, that my being pregnant was a turn on (not that it made any difference in my sex life...maybe he masturbated more?). Pfft. You just can't win can you! Look after you, do your best, bide your time lovely. Xx
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Post by eternaloptimism on Jan 2, 2017 11:17:27 GMT -5
Your focus right now need to be on your new baby and children. Your H sounds like a bit a jerk from your story. Just saying. Breastfeeding to suppress libido? I always found the opposite to be true. . I sure hope your sister's okay . Luckily, breastfeeding hormones have always killed my drive. With my first 2 pregnancies, my libido didn't even begin to come back for 7 months, and it was almost 2 years after my last baby before I felt like it was back to normal. He is a jerk. It's an occupational hazard (he's in law enforcement). He's just not typically this much of a jerk to me. My sister's battling cancer, actually. She just completed chemotherapy, and her recent PET scan showed no more tumors and bone regrowth. She is jumping right into the BMT to treat her immunodeficiency disease so that the risk of the cancer reoccurring is lower. Luckily, we have a large family, and one of my brothers was her perfect bone marrow match. Excellent news. She sounds like a strong girl. Xxx
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Post by litnerd on Jan 2, 2017 11:19:22 GMT -5
I'm a guy so can't say I truly understand your situation. Kids are awesome. Mine are now at an age where they are more self-reliant every day, but to get to that point sucked quite a bit of life out of my wife, myself, and our marriage. I really feel for your situation, but I would strongly advise no more kids. If your husband won't get "snipped" I would get your tubes tied. It is a rare thing to see a strained relationship improve by adding more people to it. Hopefully your husband's desire for more kids isn't just an attempt to keep you "barefoot and pregnant." I know many guys even in this day and age who think that way (eespecially the more devout ones). If you are looking to go to college (or get some other kind of marketable training), the way I would phrase it is that you need time with other adults and/or want to improve yourself. The reason I say "marketable skills" rather than college is because a degree is expensive. If you want to strike out on your own eventually, depending on where you live, I believe that can be considered in his favor when dividing marital assets. Perhapss something like photography, nursing, etc that don't require a degree to get started might be a better choice than a college degree given your situation. And this is spoken from someone with a couple degrees myself. It isn't any kind of guarantee. Again, congrats on the baby, and my sympathies on the relationship. Keep venting. We are all going through tough ssituations and support each other. I am fairly close to a degree, so it would take less money/time to complete my undergrad than to start from scratch in a trade that doesn't interest me. I don't think he wants me barefoot and pregnant, because he definitely wants me to go back to work. So I think it's a combo of mostly not wanting a vasectomy and also wanting a lot of kids, but we have 4 now and that's a lot these days. He said he'd get the vasectomy after he blew up when I signed the tubal release forms during my pregnancy in case I ended up with a c-section, but we'll see. We're not having sex right now and I have enough going on, so I haven't pushed the issue yet.
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Post by litnerd on Jan 2, 2017 11:25:17 GMT -5
Congratulations!! This is a very stressful time in a marriage when you are in the baby phase. If you don't want to be pregnant again then he has to respect your wishes for your body. Babies are tough on a marriage but your H and you should find time to cultivate the marriage too. As well enjoy that baby, they grow up so fast! I guess I always forget how stressful it is. We were doing well about spending time together when he was off work, and I'm sure that's part of the reason things were good during that time. Now he's back to working a ton, and I'm just trying to survive the holidays.
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Post by ggold on Jan 2, 2017 11:48:18 GMT -5
litnerd ((HUGS)) You are awesome!!!! Remember that! Your are giving so much of yourself. You are trying to survive each and everyday. I pray you can grab a few moment to nurture YOU! As for hubby, he'll have to deal. Life is tough for him too, I get it. I worry about YOU! I adopted all three of my children. I had post-adoption depression with the first and struggled with terrible anxiety and panic attacks with the second. Going through this shit wasn't easy. Take one moment at a time. That's all you can do. Sending you positive vibes!! xoxo
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