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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 7:41:03 GMT -5
Athol Kay. His work seems to be one of the foundation stones of the Red Pill,MRP (Married Red Pill) & America's Men's movement. I don't think any of their strategies have any great a success rate once you've moved from jaded to shithole. Some stuff of interest if you're willing to sift through a lot of misogynistic bull shit, players and macho posturing. The best stuff I found? It's not you it's them. Work on becoming a better you regardless of the prospective outcome of the relationship. You sum up the men's movement well. How many of these guys are actually happy? Personally, I enjoy being around men who are just themselves. They're comfortable in their own skin and have no need to posture. I would say the same thing about women. I like women who are upfront and honest. It's hard for me to pick up emotional cues. I told my wife you need to tell me if I'm doing something wrong that hurts your feelings. We play a part in the SM and it's also us that is the problem. When we stay or accept the behavior then we're saying it's okay. There's a reason that you've attracted the individual that you're with. Now, it does not make it right that someone withholds sex. I call it cruelty and it's worse than starving. If you plan on leaving a SM and do not change yourself, then you're headed for heartbreak again. It seems like the best plan is to work on yourself and stop accepting the bullshit. The hardest person to change is not the spouse but yourself. And you have to stop believing your own bullshit. Why else would you allow things to continue on? |
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Post by beachguy on Nov 11, 2016 8:41:47 GMT -5
". Or if you are really really lucky, he will have some kind of epiphany and realise how much he loves you, and will manage to actually have real sex with you for a bit. " BUT.... this would be a nightmare for me! I really don't want him anymore. It's so hard 🙈 In my case, when I realized I no longer wanted her (physically, and not just sexually) any more than she ever wanted me, it made it easy enough to do the deed and leave. I realized how pointless and toxic things had become. I'd passed the point of no return, and apparently so have you |
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Post by eternaloptimism on Nov 12, 2016 11:22:47 GMT -5
I really really want him to fucking get it. I've pissed around so much he really believes I'll just stay forever. He tried to offer me oral sex last night in exchange for me allowing him to get his weed on his tab with one of his dealers. Wanker. Oh hang on. He doesn't even do that! I told him how pathetic that was and that I knew even if I was desperate enough to agree to that... which I'm NOT ... that he wouldnt follow through anyway. He got the weed on tab while I was in the bath. There was no sex of any kind mentioned after his first spliff. Even if he was naked with the hardest hard on ever I wouldn't want him now anyway. Totally turned off by him. I might send him this anonymously. Head battered a bit! He owes money to drug dealers? Yeah. It's his normal. He's used the same few for years and years and they know he's good to pay up on payday. Well. Historically I've ended up paying! I don't anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 2:34:55 GMT -5
The article says that one should get their partner to be interested by showing them that you can live without them?
such a shame, the games of marriage.
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Post by Lithium92 on Nov 26, 2016 4:34:48 GMT -5
There's little bits of good advice in Married Red Pill, but the underlying 'theory' is rubbish, the practice is sociopathic manipulation, and the results are blackmailing someone into sex.
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Post by Rhapsodee on Nov 29, 2016 13:39:28 GMT -5
I may not leave, but I am being proactive. Joining EP was the first step, developing a close online friendship was the second. The fact that I allowed him to get to know me was an even bigger step.
I go out two times a week to be with friends. I meet a male friend at a tavern to dance and I meet girlfriends at a gym downtown to do an advanced step class. Sometimes we all get together after class for sweaty drinks.
I joined a hiking club and will be out an entire day hiking with new friends. I take solo trips and have much more fun than I would with him.
I have friends that he has never met and never will meet.
I've made physical changes. I got my hair cut into a stylishly unique cut that in no way resembles the middle aged woman's bobcut. I started keeping my nails done and started shaving. I got Botox and go for anti-aging skin treatments at the dermatologist. I started working with a functional trainer to improve my posture.
All these things have added to my confidence but he still has the power to hurt me in ways no one else can.
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