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Post by jim44444 on Aug 17, 2016 9:11:27 GMT -5
pinkjeanie70 I belive it is quite obvious to you and everyone reading your story that your BF cannot love you the way you need to be loved. He is defective and unwilling to stand up for himself and you. I will not go into one of my anti organized religion rants but I will leave a quote from the book of Luke that sums up the problem with his religious hypocrisy. "While all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 'Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely.' " (20:45-47)
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Post by cagedtiger on Aug 17, 2016 13:03:58 GMT -5
pinkjeanie70 I belive it is quite obvious to you and everyone reading your story that your BF cannot love you the way you need to be loved. He is defective and unwilling to stand up for himself and you. I will not go into one of my anti organized religion rants but I will leave a quote from the book of Luke that sums up the problem with his religious hypocrisy. "While all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 'Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely.' " (20:45-47) I wasn't planning on playing the religion card, but I have to +1 what jim44444 said. As a Christian and a deacon at a good sized church in the area, I read story of your boyfriend, his church, and his denomination with more and more concern and disbelief. Sounds like a lot of folks holding rocks who have no business doing so. It sounds like an incredibly toxic, hypocritical situation that he's gotten himself into, and he seems to be sinking further into it, at the expense of your relationship and well-being. The previous senior pastor at my church got divorced whole he was leading the pulpit. He announced publicly via a letter and email sent to everybody in the church, and it was addressed that Sunday. The Board of Deacons stood with him, there were no witch hunts initiated by our denomination, and the vast majority of the church stood with the both of them as much as possible. That's what Christianity is supposed look like. A while later, when he started dating a new woman, who was also a divorcee, she was also welcomed into our church and family with wide open arms. There was no public discussion about their sex life, no mutterings about what a disgrace the situation was, nothing but love, happiness, and excitement for the both of them. Not long after they got engaged, he was offered the pulpit of one of the largest, most influential churches in the state. The membership there had no hesitations calling him to be their new senior pastor, and when the news hit the newspapers, it was mentioned that he was subjected divorced and engaged, and nobody in the established society of the city he'd be moving to batted an eye or made any untoward comments about his previous marriage. That's what Christianity is supposed to look like. It sounds like a far cry from your boyfriend's experience. The problem is, he appears to be OK with that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 14:10:25 GMT -5
pinkjeanie70 {{hugs}} My take is you have been through alot of change recently and that does take a toll on a person. I read your line about maybe needing to take time and focus on yourself and that makes complete sense to me. It is true for me anyway. It's hard enough to deal with moving and job issues (or not having a job issues in my case) and post-marriage leaving etc without adding a relationship to the mix, especially a relationship that is causing you stress.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 23:43:07 GMT -5
pinkjeanie70 I belive it is quite obvious to you and everyone reading your story that your BF cannot love you the way you need to be loved. He is defective and unwilling to stand up for himself and you. I will not go into one of my anti organized religion rants but I will leave a quote from the book of Luke that sums up the problem with his religious hypocrisy. "While all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 'Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely.' " (20:45-47) Whitewashed tombs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 14:45:16 GMT -5
I don't know pinkjeanie70, my take-away here is that you are having to do a boat-load of mental gymnastics to make this post-SM relationship work. It reads as if you have put yourself in a new, different prison, friend. I hope everything gets better and soon! What she said. I just don't have a good feeling about this. Everything you've said is about him. What about you? When you imagine the best life you could possibly have, what does that look like? I've had to think those kinds of thoughts, too. It's important to me to live in a place I like, where I could find good jobs. So (for example) I might think twice before getting too deeply involved with a man who lives in a place I don't especially like, where I have trouble finding jobs. That's just an example, but you get the idea.
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Post by pinkjeanie70 on Aug 27, 2016 21:52:06 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Especially to Kat, Helen, PG, Baz, and Creel. I loved, loved, loved what CagedTiger said about his experience. I think that's the way life should be. Welcoming. Understanding. I can't tell you how much I pray for that...although it's apparent my BF is more concerned about the church elders than he is of me.
I met with my BF a couple of times since my last update, and had the opportunity to share my feelings. I told him how I think he is ashamed of me. I am a good woman. I AM! Shit, I work out/am active, I am loving and I have a good job. He came back to me a few days later and told me he is wrong to have tried to have input on whether or not I seek solace at the same church. I told him that oh, hell no. I'm seeking my own solace, too. Albeit in the same denomination, but a different location. I told him I was hurt and he was mean.
He also told me previously that I was looking solely to him for a social life. Well...yes and no. I mean, I DID move to a new (his) location, am pretty independent, but was also trying to get a sense of what dating looks like. I don't have kids and his kids live with him. My schedule is fluid. Want to spend time with me? Sure! I'm up for that...but his remarks were hurtful.
I have since rethought my flexibility toward the BF and joined activity groups where I know I will obtain a lot of pleasure and socialization. I signed up for my races now that it will be cooler here in Texas, and I'm happy about that. I have a Du and 45-mile on the calendar, as well as a little 5K and a Spartan Beast. I'm rucking, kickboxing, weight training and running. I am working on my fitness goals, and I am very satisfied about my activities. I do love my job, and have little regrets about moving. Of course I miss my friends, but I saw them very little due to our own individual obligations. What I decided is that my BF's issues are not mine. I live in the gulf coast and have access to beaches and cruise lines. You bet I'm planning an adventure.
For a millisecond I thought about how I used to hate weekends, but I really don't hate them anymore. Yes, I technically have a BF and am alone on a Saturday night...but 1.) I'm not going to replace BF with the Ex and 2.) I have a lot to be happy about. I moved across country and I did it! I left a new, shitty job and found a much better job...and I love where I work!
My relationships don't define who I am...and I am very resolved to learn from my decisions.
Hugs, PJ
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Post by baza on Aug 28, 2016 3:01:49 GMT -5
Dunno whether you've noticed Sister pj, but your posts are mentioning him less and less, and mentioning a widening level of activities and interests that you are involving yourself in more and more. And that, is just terrific to see. - And this bit - "My relationships don't define who I am" - is a core truth for every last one of us. - You are working your way through this really really well.
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Post by petrushka on Aug 28, 2016 7:20:59 GMT -5
I like, and totally agree with what the Tiger-Man and Jim had to say. If I slip into that mindset for a moment then all I can say is: the Redeemer's been and gone, and done his thing. You've been redeemed already: life your life as best as you can, be a good person and she'll be all right on the night. There is no need to go through spiritual contortionism. What do you need to seek redemption for? Are you a serial killer? No? So much for that.
I've been through some interesting times in my 20s and 30s. I've seen some horrific cluster-fucks in relationships, how people treated, disregarded, abused, betrayed, used each other. I've also seen how people use - no, abuse - supposed spiritual issues and dogma to run roughshod over other people's heart, over their feelings, nearly destroy their soul. I've seen how people lack concern for their 'significant other', and what happens when they act with ultimate disregard. I've seen what happens when tortured souls go on a spiritual rampage and turn it into a rampage on all those who should be their nearest and dearest.
To me, it looks like you're in the middle of such a cluster-fuck. To me, that man looks like a tortured soul, going on how you describe him. How much of a tortured soul you are - that I cannot say; I don't know you well enough. Somehow I doubt that you two are the perfect match, though.
I can't tell you what to do - that is your call. Except maybe: don't let Hope fool you into something that isn't there.
I know what happened to me when I got involved with a tortured soul (and no, spirituality did not play any role in it at all that time - it was other issues) and I wish I never had, it took me over a decade to get over/past my relationship with her.
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Post by pinkjeanie70 on Aug 29, 2016 18:40:55 GMT -5
Awww...thanks so much guys. Sending you big {{hugs}}.
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