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Post by lwoetin on Feb 19, 2018 3:32:29 GMT -5
I was thinking about my parents.... Who got it better in life: The one who loves. The one who is loved.
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Post by bballgirl on Feb 19, 2018 7:42:44 GMT -5
The one who is loved. I never read that book.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 9:15:21 GMT -5
Never read it either. I’m thinking the one who is loved has it better? But that’s probably because I’m so desperate to be loved. So I’m biased.
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 19, 2018 9:22:40 GMT -5
This reminded me of the words from an old song by Nat King Cole ' Nature Boy". "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love, and be loved in return." (still waiting for the return, and MAN, am I dating myself LOL! )
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 19, 2018 22:31:27 GMT -5
The one who is loved. I never read that book. I watched the movie, several versions out there I'm sure. This one has Kaya S. (Pirates of the Caribbean, Maze Runner) who is lovely. And an African man as the lover. His love for her gave him life and destroyed it as well. After the video, I thought of my parents. My dad adores my mom so much, doesn't have many years left, yet she sees him as a platonic partner and can't be sweet to him. She told me once she could have married someone better but he offered a better life for her and a family. There's a lesson for me that I should probably understand at some point.
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Post by bballgirl on Feb 20, 2018 11:19:39 GMT -5
The one who is loved. I never read that book. I watched the movie, several versions out there I'm sure. This one has Kaya S. (Pirates of the Caribbean, Maze Runner) who is lovely. And an African man as the lover. His love for her gave him life and destroyed it as well. After the video, I thought of my parents. My dad adores my mom so much, doesn't have many years left, yet she sees him as a platonic partner and can't be sweet to him. She told me once she could have married someone better but he offered a better life for her and a family. There's a lesson for me that I should probably understand at some point. It's funny because my mother always preached - find someone who loves you more than you love them. When I married my H I felt like we loved each other equally, that was my naivety. In retrospect I believe I definitely loved him more. Time has a way of giving us wisdom and understanding for what we want for ourselves. I don't believe it's so easy to come by the perfect relationship where you have it all, not to say it doesn't exist but not for everyone. In life everything comes at a price and for me companionship and stability is more important than sex. When I was starving for sex I didn't feel that way but I'm no longer starving. So a life with the father of my children who is also my best friend is right for me. For Valentine's Day we exchanged cards and candy and in his card he said what a giving person I am with love and he hopes that I feel loved. Those words brought me comfort. If your father adores your mother then he must in his own way feel loved and he accepts her flaws too, that's what we do when we love someone. It's a little sad what your mom said, I would definitely ask her why she can't be kind to your father? Call her out but realize it probably won't change anything because people don't change.
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 21, 2018 3:06:09 GMT -5
Hey, I found such perfect relationship in this 'Lifetime Love' grocery video. And there's a new Publix in my neighborhood. I hope you can shop at Publix too.
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Post by bballgirl on Feb 21, 2018 7:14:15 GMT -5
Hey, I found such perfect relationship in this 'Lifetime Love' grocery video. And there's a new Publix in my neighborhood. I hope you can shop at Publix too.
Gosh I love Publix commercials! And I love Publix!! It's where shopping is a pleasure and I'm always about pleasure!! That was very sweet. Enjoy your new Publix!!
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Post by saarinista on Feb 23, 2018 3:34:06 GMT -5
This reminded me of the words from an old song by Nat King Cole ' Nature Boy". "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love, and be loved in return." (still waiting for the return, and MAN, am I dating myself LOL! ) I love that song. But not as much as "Orange Colored Sky." That song gives me hope.
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Post by ted on Feb 24, 2018 1:11:42 GMT -5
Hey, I found such perfect relationship in this 'Lifetime Love' grocery video. And there's a new Publix in my neighborhood. I hope you can shop at Publix too.
That is beautiful, but stop-my-breath painful to watch. That is a dream the SM killed.
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Post by misssunnybunny on Feb 24, 2018 10:36:00 GMT -5
Hey, I found such perfect relationship in this 'Lifetime Love' grocery video. And there's a new Publix in my neighborhood. I hope you can shop at Publix too.
This is a sweet commercial. Who knew The Safety Dance could sound so lovely?
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Post by obobfla on Feb 24, 2018 14:18:46 GMT -5
Never read Wuthering Heights or saw any movie versions. But I not only shop at Publix, I used to work there and met my wife there. She worked in the deli making those famous Pub Subs.
So, which is better - to love or to be loved? Hard to say, because there are so many different ways to love. I read Erich Fromm’s The Art of Loving, which probably as good of a philosophical treastise of the subject since Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians. Fromm stated that love is an art much like music and painting. It requires skill, an open mind, and lots of practice. And like musicians, writers, painters, and actors, lovers develop their own style.
Which brings me to the people who taught me to love, my parents. They were married 58 years. Neither was publicly affectionate, but that was no indication on their sex life. They had eight children, so their marrriage definitely was not sexless. I only saw them argue once. When it came to us kids, they always presented a united front, never disagreeing or under-cutting each other. My dad could be a bit eccentric and tease us mercilessly. My mom had her share of health problems, including 12 years of kidney dialysis and a transplant. At times, my dad was her nurse. It was only after my dad succumbed to a weak heart did my mother pass three months later. I miss them terribly but envy how they died, together with family around.
They would have made a great Publix commercial.
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 25, 2018 15:03:26 GMT -5
Never read Wuthering Heights or saw any movie versions. But I not only shop at Publix, I used to work there and met my wife there. She worked in the deli making those famous Pub Subs. So, which is better - to love or to be loved? Hard to say, because there are so many different ways to love. I read Erich Fromm’s The Art of Loving, which probably as good of a philosophical treastise of the subject since Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians. Fromm stated that love is an art much like music and painting. It requires skill, an open mind, and lots of practice. And like musicians, writers, painters, and actors, lovers develop their own style. Which brings me to the people who taught me to love, my parents. They were married 58 years. Neither was publicly affectionate, but that was no indication on their sex life. They had eight children, so their marrriage definitely was not sexless. I only saw them argue once. When it came to us kids, they always presented a united front, never disagreeing or under-cutting each other. My dad could be a bit eccentric and tease us mercilessly. My mom had her share of health problems, including 12 years of kidney dialysis and a transplant. At times, my dad was her nurse. It was only after my dad succumbed to a weak heart did my mother pass three months later. I miss them terribly but envy how they died, together with family around. They would have made a great Publix commercial. I didn't really believe the Publix ad with the Safety Dance music. Your parent's marriage is real though. Probably the reason you were there for your wife until the end. I think I will be with my wife til death do us part. Unless if a sexless marriage causes me to go crazy, then I wouldn't know any more. I will read Corinthians carefully in near future. Good luck caring for your son.
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Post by lwoetin on Feb 26, 2018 2:33:36 GMT -5
This reminded me of the words from an old song by Nat King Cole ' Nature Boy". "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love, and be loved in return." (still waiting for the return, and MAN, am I dating myself LOL! ) I had to watch Moulin Rouge to appreciate that song. And this song too: "I hope you don't mind I hope you don't mind That I put down in words How wonderful life is while you're in the world"
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