Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 10, 2017 15:08:15 GMT -5
Love it! This nugget:
Negative emotions are a vital part of the human condition .... To deprive oneself of any emotion characteristic to our nature is to deny the very things that make us human. Our minds work the way they do for a reason. They are not broken.
Ms enna has endogenous depression - that is to say - permanent. She manages this by medication, and I do mean *manages* it. The medication gives her a stable base, the rest of it she manages from that stable base. So I believe that there are versions of depression that just 'happen' irrespective of environment.
That said, I reckon there's a lot in the referenced article Take our common experience of being in an ILIASM shithole where you self esteem continually gets belted over the head with a 4x2. Where your aspirations are thwarted. Where your persona gets buried. Where your sense of self is continually undermined. Such an environment is a perfect breeding ground for depression. Situational depression.
I'd go so far as to say that if you are in an ILIASM shithole it would be a huge surprise if you were NOT depressed to at least some extent.
Post by northstarmom on Oct 11, 2017 7:04:42 GMT -5
Sometimes people are sad because their lives suck. If you are involuntarily sexless in your marriage, you probably are depressed because of that. Solving your depressing situation- and that may mean leaving it-- will end your depression. Therapy and or meds may be necessary to get the energy to solve one's .depressing problems.
Some people are in a sm because out of depression they chose the wrong partner. They may have been like I was depressed all of their life and as a result making decisions that weren't the best. Such people may need therapy, meds to get rid of their depression so they become healthy enough to know what they like and to make decisions in the interest of supporting a fulfilling life.
Post by awakeforthedance on Oct 11, 2017 9:04:36 GMT -5
When I as in my previous marriage I had trouble with living a happy life - it took more effort on my part. It took serious effort to eat well, do healthy activities, get up and out of bed on a Saturday, do my make up, etc. So, for me it was definitely "situational depression." That said, I do have to keep conscious about my tendency towards depression and stay proactive living a healthy lifestyle. As simple as it sounds, for me, the food I eat makes all the difference along with regular time outdoors (lots of it). I am so trying to push this in the group homes I supervise but staff are so damn lazy. I take time out of my admin work to take clients on hikes and I see such a difference with them. No one feels good "napping" all day. (infuriates me)
On a slightly different note, I do really think we are too quick to numb negative emotions instead of letting them tell us what we need to hear and then act accordingly. Most people are not happy with the lives they lead going to work day in and day out, in marriages that lack real love, just paying bills, etc. Some of it is mindset, some of it is environment. I have to work a job to pay the bills, but I find a way to do it in a way that I love that brings more meaning to it (taking the girls for hikes, for instance).
Great read. I never went for therapy but drugged myself nonetheless and I can't blame anyone else for that. Trying to block out the hell that was my childhood, I guess. That's all over now, thankfully.
Stopped drinking 3 years ago, before I became a full-blown alcoholic (close call). I can still have a beer or glass of wine and not continue demolishing the whole bottle - just not into it any more and it was ruining my marriage.
Stopped doing pot May of 1998; sitting at a party and having fun one night, then the weed got passed around and I went zombie. No fun anymore and, as well, I was looking for a new job and decided that more money was better then weed.
Cocaine - worked on me more like espresso; only did it with some friends when available. Biggest regret there is that I was enabling; the shit destroyed their marriage and damn near ruined them financially. I should have at least tried to step in. Last use in the mid to late 80's
LSD / Mushrooms: great fun if only the shit had an "off" button when things start to go sideways. Last use early 90's
Opiates: bah. Got a bunch of painkillers (like a barrel full big pink pills) when I had eye surgery mid 90's. Took a few, nothing, took a handful - fully sober and fully in pain and hyper awake (probably because my body was reacting to it as the poison it is). Immune? I've heard it can happen but can't confirm or deny. Nowadays my painkiller of choice is acetaminophen.
The point of my life sucking - that's the major takeaway. My life sucked as a child and I made sure it sucked as an adult - no substance will fix that. Only I can fix that by making better choices.
Refrained from useless lashing out since Oct 1, 2017