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Post by mirrororchid on May 1, 2024 20:46:31 GMT -5
In Oregon, the political view on drugs is a bit different than most places, for better or worse. One of the things I have seen out here is psychedelic mushrooms. In small doses, they give one an emotional lift. I don't know much more than that, but if I was suffering from depression I would prefer to go that route than SSRIs. There is appeal in "natural" remedies, but dosage control has its appeal too. Psilocybin is the pharmaceutical incarnation of 'shrooms and is a contender for treatment, yes. Ketamine is another. Oddly, Electro Convulsive therapy has demonstrated some results, but the anesthetic was ketamine. Yet the psych field was not allowed to test ketamine by itself. Thank you War on Drugs for preventing rigorous scientific inquiry and control groups. |
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Post by kevinp on May 1, 2024 21:38:56 GMT -5
Herbal remedies are not regulated so the enforcement of reliable dosages or even ingredients is of concern to medical professionals. Growing your own is a level up in terms of purity assurance. I'd be curious to hear about dosage control and if the same amount can produce different results or if it has been consistent. SSRIs appear to be the equivalent in which case Paroxetine is a proven potent choice doctors have more confidence in. If Paroxetine doesn't have a good effect, SSRIs including St. Johns Wort may not be what that person needs and they might need to consider a different drug class. That said, I do appreciate the old saw "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Yes Getting the dose right with Naturals like St Johns Wort is hit and miss and initially I did overdo it. Happily though, there were no nasty side effects. Still to this day, I take a commercially available tablet every two days and double up as I need to. I haven't heard of Paroxetine. I will look that up ansd discuss it with the Dr. AS for me, it's definitely 'broke' stoill, referring to my depression and getting on with life. |
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Post by mirrororchid on May 2, 2024 18:52:44 GMT -5
Herbal remedies are not regulated so the enforcement of reliable dosages or even ingredients is of concern to medical professionals. Growing your own is a level up in terms of purity assurance. I'd be curious to hear about dosage control and if the same amount can produce different results or if it has been consistent. SSRIs appear to be the equivalent in which case Paroxetine is a proven potent choice doctors have more confidence in. If Paroxetine doesn't have a good effect, SSRIs including St. Johns Wort may not be what that person needs and they might need to consider a different drug class. That said, I do appreciate the old saw "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Yes Getting the dose right with Naturals like St Johns Wort is hit and miss and initially I did overdo it. Happily though, there were no nasty side effects. Still to this day, I take a commercially available tablet every two days and double up as I need to. I haven't heard of Paroxetine. I will look that up ansd discuss it with the Dr. AS for me, it's definitely 'broke' stoill, referring to my depression and getting on with life. Paroxetine goes by the trade name Paxil. The downside I have heard is that it makes achieving orgasm difficult. Those may be useful for those with Premature Ejaculation, but otherwise, not a welcome side effect. I suggest it because it was determined to be the most effective SSRI. If it works, SSRIs may be a good choice and you can find one with a lower side effect profile. If it doesn't help, you switch to a non-SSRI. If St Johns Wort is working, the SSRIs may be a reasonable guess. Herbs may have more effects that serotonin retention, though. They are a mixture of many compounds which makes identification of desirable effects and functions complex, perhaps impossible. As you noted, though. It works. So... maybe keep it until it doesn't. Tolerance of drugs is a big reason to make sure you get talk therapy in. The drug works better with active attempts to alter your perceptions and modes of thinking to allow you options to react to life that produce lower depression symptoms. |
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