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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 11, 2019 14:29:44 GMT -5
My tenants keep stalling. Just like an attorney predicted, and advised me about. There is going to be a "Case for Rent Determination Hearing".
There was a question about $180.00 that they ONCE paid me in $$.That still leaves the other 7 missed or short payments.
This gives my tenants another 3 weeks of staying in the house.
If my tenants fail to appear the whole case is dismissed. The attorney advised me to " expect that to happen".
If.... and that's a BIG "IF". The 'amount owed' is established by the court, the defendant ( my tenants) needs to then pay that amount to the Clerk of Courts. I hope that means "on that day". I plan on finding out just how much more time this will cost me. ( legally it should also cost my tennants the longer they get to live in the house)
This reminds me of the many examples of a refuser who denies, argues, aviods, refuses then claims to be a victim. More DARVO.
This doesn't even begin to get into the damage of the property, and that the rent needs to be increased by 50%. Just like the big "IF" a rejector claims " they are going to change. Or " try to do better"
That still doesn't address the past ( damages) or the future ( upping the rent and being able to pay the rent).
Just like our SM. We are supposed to just dismiss the past and continue to cling to "false hope" for the future.
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Post by flashjohn on Apr 15, 2019 16:16:44 GMT -5
This is really a good analogy. A refuser wants you to keep the upkeep on the marriage, while he/she still refuses to make it better.
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Post by saarinista on Apr 17, 2019 1:44:21 GMT -5
greatcoastal, get a lawyer. their job is to kick butts. let the pros do it. just my free advice.
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 17, 2019 10:01:15 GMT -5
greatcoastal, get a lawyer. their job is to kick butts. let the pros do it. just my free advice. That's good advice, however,..... in this case..... it seems pretty well cut and dry,or straight forward that all the other missed payments need to be paid, that my tenants DO NOT pay their rent. I do still get attorney advice. I am told " you are doing everything correctly, you'll do fine." It does seem ridiculous that it is even getting 20 minutes of a judges time. Similar to how many of us continue to give our time to a rejector. I gave my tenants far to much time, mercy, and forgiveness, while hurting myself in the process. I am getting all my ' ducks in a row' for my court case. Just more ' positive' from my divorce. I learned a lot about preparing for a court case from my divorce, and I am now using it in other aspects of my journey! I am also giving my tenants a " l ife lesson". I don't expect to be thanked for it. Nor am I very happy about having to be the one to do it. It is what it is. They will soon realize what it will be like to rent from a apartment complex and what happens when you don't obey the rules, that you agreed to. ( similar to what happens when you don't have sex in a marriage) |
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Post by saarinista on Apr 17, 2019 13:15:52 GMT -5
I agree it's great to DIY anything if you can. But if you're like me, sometimes I spend too much time trying to do things myself when in the end I realize I should have given in and hired a pro to do it. Just something to keep in mind.
But absolutely if you can do it yourself in a reasonable time frame go for it.
And definitely don't be too nice, and don't expect to be thanked. Part of the reason you're making money from rent is that you have to be the bad guy. But that may actually be good practice for you. Sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves. And forcing your clients to adhere to their commitments may help them grow up, too.
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 25, 2019 14:43:21 GMT -5
I just returned from my time in court. My tenants ( 2 out of 3 of them) showed up. The one who didn't show is the youngest mother of two. She disappeared! Leaving her kids with grandma to take care of. ( Sad, isn't it ?  ) The judge asked them " how much is your rent? When was your last payment made?" They couldn't remember, they were confused. He then told them they owe April's rent, and asked if they were ready to pay that today? My tenants proceeded to say " we are moving out". The judge then told them they need to be out by tomorrow morning. My tenants then pleaded for more time, asking for the weekend, and promised to be gone by Sunday night. The judge asked me if I would agree to that? I said " certainly that's fine". I was handed a final judgement for eviction and a writ of possession and execution. I had a nice little conversation with my now ex tenants. They thanked me for my mercy and caring over the years. I openly listened to some of their problems and concerns. It reminded me of so many relationships on here that had to reach the bottom before getting better. I would like to know their status a season or two from now and hope they too find a new beginning! |
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Post by Handy on Apr 25, 2019 18:26:12 GMT -5
GC, that is very caring of you.
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 25, 2019 22:54:36 GMT -5
GC, that is very caring of you. Thank you! The judge turned to me and said " you have very little to say?" Well, I had spreadsheets documenting every check, late payment, short payments, copies of cashed checks, payments that were eventually paid, and even full payments in their favor, (they had claimed they made a short payment). I had current rental prices for that zipcode averaged out to the current rental rate per sq. ft. And yet, none of that needed to be brought up. They couldn't pay, and they were leaving. What was there to say? The judge asked them about returning the keys. That won't matter, I'll be changing all the locks. I told the judge, as I was leaving, "we had a very good 4 years, it's sad the last year had to end this way". Now I will have to deal with repairs, cleaning and up grades. Another new beginning. The bright side of this is my new girlfriend. She is constantly reminding me how much she wants to be with me, beside me, and offers to unselfishly give of her time for anything that's needed to fix and clean the rental house with me! We already are lovingly, laughing and talking about all the sexual and intimate adventures we will have in the house together! Something my ex wife and I would have never discussed or even imagined ever happening. Instead I would have cherished being away from her. Now I look forward to being alone in the house with my woman! |
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Post by Handy on Apr 25, 2019 23:01:07 GMT -5
GC, WTG with the new GF. I like her a lot, BUT she is all yours.  |
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Post by greatcoastal on May 6, 2019 7:05:47 GMT -5
It is finished!!
However the final process required a Writ of Eviction. My tenants where still not gone on the day they were ordered to evacuate by. The following day I met at the house with the Sheriff (after a 24 hr notice was posted on the door, by the Sheriff) he went into the house with his weapon drawn and opened every door! ( I was asked to wait outside).
This reminds me of the force that was needed to end my SM. ( Attorneys, mediators,laws, judges,counselling, parenting plan, etc...)
That same day guess who showed up on the property? My tennant!
She had some mail in my name to give me! And who knows what else she wanted to do or say? Fortunately I was two yards over mowing a neighbors lawn. I avoided any communication with her. I was informed to avoid any chance of any false accusations. ( her word against mine).
Sad it has to come to that. similiar to my years of marriage.
However the time for communication was there, and never used by my tenants. Again ,similar to my marriage.
People avoid you for their own reasons. Reasons that the "why" may never be completely understood, or answered.
Nevertheless, time to move forward! On a positive note my woman ( we have been together for 6 mo. now) takes a completely different attitude towards being with me and helping me with all of the household renovations.
She has never changed a ceiling fan before. Her attitude was " let me help you. I will now know how to do one myself. Thank you for showing me."
Me," thank you for helping me. Just having an extra hand, to hand me tools, screws, parts, etc... while I am up on a ladder is very helpful." ( not to mention the lovely view looking down at her)
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Post by hopingforachange on May 6, 2019 9:03:47 GMT -5
It is finished!! However the final process required a Writ of Eviction. My tenants where still not gone on the day they were ordered to evacuate by. The following day I met at the house with the Sheriff (after a 24 hr notice was posted on the door, by the Sheriff) he went into the house with his weapon drawn and opened every door! ( I was asked to wait outside). This reminds me of the force that was needed to end my SM. ( Attorneys, mediators,laws, judges,counselling, parenting plan, etc...) That same day guess who showed up on the property? My tennant! She had some mail in my name to give me! And who knows what else she wanted to do or say? Fortunately I was two yards over mowing a neighbors lawn. I avoided any communication with her. I was informed to avoid any chance of any false accusations. ( her word against mine). Sad it has to come to that. similiar to my years of marriage. However the time for communication was there, and never used by my tenants. Again ,similar to my marriage. People avoid you for their own reasons. Reasons that the "why" may never be completely understood, or answered. Nevertheless, time to move forward! On a positive note my woman ( we have been together for 6 mo. now) takes a completely different attitude towards being with me and helping me with all of the household renovations. She has never changed a ceiling fan before. Her attitude was " let me help you. I will now know how to do one myself. Thank you for showing me." Me," thank you for helping me. Just having an extra hand, to hand me tools, screws, parts, etc... while I am up on a ladder is very helpful." ( not to mention the lovely view looking down at her) It also puts you in a good position to be distracted while she can comfortably stand. 😉 |
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Post by Handy on May 6, 2019 17:00:10 GMT -5
Greatcoastal, isn't it amazing how some people will take advantage of a person's resources and kind bigheartedness? You had your XW do that and now the latest example of tenants taking advantage of the rent non-payments.
I have a slightly similar situation with my rental property and my daughter & grand kids. I sometimes get some money they can afford and hear how their expenses and medical issues leave them without any money. I wanted them to pay the taxes and insurance but they haven't even done that.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jun 9, 2019 7:50:45 GMT -5
My upgrade to my rental property is coming to a close. It's been a very productive 2 months.
Both bathrooms were completely gutted and re done. No more 60's tiles,tubs, shower, sinks, etc...!! ( plenty of unknown future problems arose and are now fixed)
My tenants did so much damage to the kitchen it was a good excuse to replace most all of it ( the DW, Ref. and sink where saved) Everything else is brand new. White everything, really brightened up the place. Thanks to my wonderful handyman and his partner!
All new doors throughout the house, and sliding mirror doors on every closet.
New tile in every bedroom.
The back porch received all new screens.
( the rental house is now in better shape than my own home!)
My girlfriend has been with me every time I am at the house doing the work, and at the stores buying all the supplies. Such a 180 from my ex SM!
I plan on going through the tennant process at the end of the month. Financially I am in the hole. Long term, my investment will pay off. Hopefully within a year.
Here's to new beginnings!
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Post by Handy on Jun 9, 2019 11:12:35 GMT -5
Nice work on rejuvenating your rental. Your story reminds me of all the work I did since I built my house, but I have been 45 years. The one big exception is my W never did any of the work. She did go to stores to pick out some of the kitchen appliances**.
**4 kitchen faucets, 3 dishwashers, 3 cook stoves, 5 refrigerators, 4 washer-dryers sets.
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Post by greatcoastal on Jun 9, 2019 16:25:01 GMT -5
Nice work on rejuvenating your rental. Your story reminds me of all the work I did since I built my house, but I have been 45 years. The one big exception is my W never did any of the work. She did go to stores to pick out some of the kitchen appliances**. **4 kitchen faucets, 3 dishwashers, 3 cook stoves, 5 refrigerators, 4 washer-dryers sets. I was thinking about you, and wondering how much your W lifts a finger to help in all the work you do that benefits both of you? Oppositland has shown me many of the stark differences in how things where. I try to not take them for granite now, and use several love languages to convey my appreciation. It's a win, win! |
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