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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 18:13:11 GMT -5
I feel like I'm drowning. I used all my energy to escape my SM. What next? I look forward to 7 pm when I can feel only semi-guilty/weird giving up for the day and numbing the pain with enough ativan to put me to sleep for the night. Even that I'm going to have to give up soon, I don't want to get addicted and cutoff. It's nice while it lasts though.
It turns out sex distracted from the emptiness at first but now only adds to it. Once sex is available it doesn't matter so much and companionship and mattering to someone other than as a means to an orgasm is what's missing and elusive. And I can't risk looking for that becauase the inevitable rejections along the way will send me down a spiral I don't have the strength to climb out of. So I'm stuck with this ache that I can't try to fill.
I know it's depression speaking. Yes I take medication (besides the ativan) and seek treatment. Yes it takes the edge off so I can sort of keep going through the motions. No it doesn't make it go away. Yes, I am tired of fighting. Yes I will redouble my efforts tomorrow anyway.
What brings meaning to your life? What do you look forward to?
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Post by unmatched on May 23, 2016 18:35:20 GMT -5
Helen, I am sorry you are feeling so crap. Feeling isolated and depressed is truly horrible. I guess the main things that keep me going are:
Relationships and interaction with others Time with my son Doing things that make me feel alive - travel (even day trips), exploring, riding motorbikes, sex Learning new stuff Having projects to do Time out (I don't get a lot so this is important to me)
I don't know what your friendship base is like, but that might be the best place to start. If you know there are one or two people out there who will have your back, it is much easier to go out and risk rejection romantically.
Otherwise, keep posting here and talking to us (about anything at all!) We're here!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 19:42:01 GMT -5
I love your strength, generosity and capacity to still love, given what you've been through, @helentishappy.
I was diagnosed with clinical depression three years ago. I denied my own symptoms, as just moodiness or bad hair days. As someone in healthcare, the irony was not lost on me. But, learning what my "new normal" is, has been eye-opening, aggravating, and liberating. Because I no longer ask others for their opinions about me. I KNOW who I am, and I'm starting to like me. (only took 48 years)
But, to answer your question, the following things fill my soul: My dogs - who have been with me in the darkest moments. My eclectic circle of friends/family (from my girlfriend posse to my kooky family) My City (it's just such an inclusive place to live and it "fits" me) The beach - I don't go enough, but it helps me ground myself and reconnect with spirit and God.
And, honestly, coming here. Connecting with other people who are living my reality, remind me I'm neither alone, nor crazy, for the feelings of ambivalence I have about my SM.
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Post by obobfla on May 23, 2016 20:35:01 GMT -5
Helen, so sorry you feel that way. I still deal with depression myself, and I used to medicate with lots of alcohol. Gave that up after I reached my lifetime quota in less than 35 years. HelenT, I've had depression so bad that I felt encased in concrete. I could not and would not do anything but lie in bed and sleep. I still fight that feeling. But I must remember - depression lies! It says do nothing, when the best thing for you is to do something. It says the whole world is against you, when really there are people who care. Others don't hate you; they just don't care. They are too wrapped up in their own problems and think you hate them too.
So what makes me feel better? First off, my son. He goes out of his way to make me laugh. Sometimes it's too much, but I need it. After 13 years, I am amazed at him. I am also amazed nobody stopped me at the hospital when we first took him home and said you are unfit to raise a child. I've gotten away with it this long!
Animals help. I have a cat, but the cat prefers my wife over me. Something about the fact that my wife gives her food. I should get a dog. They are less susceptible to bribery.
Music also helps. Lately, I've been into Americana and alt-country music. Yes, it's depressing, but I need something that understands how I feel. I don't want music that tells me to cheer up. F*ck that shit!
But when I feel really down, I reach out to others. I will chat or come here and post. If I need to, I will call friends or attend an AA meeting. When I am down, I need to get out of myself and not take myself so seriously. Talking to others gives me the truth to offset depression's lie.
Feel free to PM me if you want to talk.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 20:46:42 GMT -5
obobfla, "encased in concrete" covers it so well! And "depression lies" and the best thing to do is get out there. All the truest words. But so hard to put in motion when encased in the concrete. Reaching out here definitely helps, which is why I love this form. I feel tonight has chipped enough concrete free that I can make a good stab at getting out there tomorrow and giving the demon a good shove back.
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Post by JMX on May 23, 2016 21:13:48 GMT -5
Awe @helentishappy - I can say this and mean it because I have seen your picture now and know your sweet, smile - you're so darn adorable! I want to put you in my pocket and take you places. I reserve my pocket for the cutest of sprites!
I want to take you out on a friend date and hang out. But you have to lose the Ativan - no worries, I'll bring the vodka!! We cannot sleep at 7 - we will party until we pass out in the cab at least until midnight! Oh the fun we will have! I am a good time (usually) and will bring you out of your funk - this is a promise! If only for a night, this is my mission!!
The depression is really, really hard. I think I have lifted from most of it (maybe?) and only have a couple of "encased in concrete" days.
How is the job hunt? I hope asking that wasn't more depressing - just curious if you had a regular daytime routine.
Big hugs Helen! Seriously, let's go out and drink some vodka together!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:04:39 GMT -5
@helentishappy, I want to reiterate what JMX said. I was more than a little blown away back when we were all goofing off with the pictures. You're more than just attractive. But I also KNOW that being smart (Einstein smart), attractive, and obviously healthy (like I said before, I thought you were posting high school photos) doesn't fix these things. They're just fun to play with once everything else is in place. I wonder if you're just not getting out and involved with others enough? To look and talk to you (metaphorically through these forums) I would think you would have sharp guys bugging you to be significant to them, and the not so sharp ones totally intimidated. For me, I have a lot of fun with the same things unmatched mentioned. Machines and kids go a long way with a lot of men -- myself included. But, I'm going to go way out on a limb here and add Christianity to my mix. Of course, that's an understatement -- it's foundational to all the other things. You're somewhat familiar with my educational and professional background, and it hasn't always been like this for me. If it's true, it's a relationship with the one that spoke the universe into existence. It seems to be the cure for the existential angst that boggles so many of us that see symmetry and design in the universe but not the designer or purpose. If it's offensive to you -- and it is to lots of folks that are way smarter than I am -- there's always the lifelong endeavor to prove it wrong. There are lots of folks that have made that their life's goal as well, and while some may be angry, it keeps them busy and active in a community. And that itself is healthy.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:44:54 GMT -5
I've crawled into plenty of bottles but that got old so I'm pretty much done with that. Ativan is a great help but you build up a tolerance so quickly it's only a short term solution. My dog was a source of happiness but he's gone now. Music has always been a haven for me too. But it's the people in your life that matter. Well the dogs too.
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Post by petrushka on May 23, 2016 23:50:17 GMT -5
My divorce --- suddenly I was 'rattling around' in a 200+ square meter house on a 600 acre farm. By myself. Lots of potential for going bonkers, I suppose.
Well, first of all, with my background one thing was clear: I had to steer clear of alcohol. No, not going down that path. Same for drugs, any drugs. No happy pills, no sleeping pills, no anti-depressants. HELL no. The one thing is that at the time there were lots of friendly people in the valley, still. It was a bit of a hippy burg. So twice a week I would get on the phone, call someone "hey, what are you doing tonight, are you busy? Can I come visit?" That's what I did. I love cooking, so at least once a week I'd have a friend, or a family of friends over for dinner.
That's three nights taken care of.
There was usually something going on in the valley some place ... one guy had a billiard table in the loft of his workshop, and there was a gathering of folk, so I'd go, talk, listen to music, take my guitar ( but steer clear of the mary jane and the booze ).
Four nights taken care of.
Got a project that I really like. Several projects in fact, I extended the deck and put in a hot tub. I went and got lumber to build myself the dining table I always wanted to have. And I took in visitors. Hosted lots and lots of young people from all over the world in my huge house, often in exchange for some help with work on the farm. Which also provided company, the scope for learning new things from many different cultures and nations.
Seriously, I never rattled around in that big house of mine, not knowing what to do, not knowing how to get to sleep. When I was on my own for a stretch, I'd read books (every two months or so I'd drive a few hours to the big city, stay with the out-laws for a night or two, and raid all the 2nd hand bookstores, I've ended up with thousands of books) or I'd watch films on late night tv which only lasted a short time until they got heavily into advertising, that was the end of that.
Keep busy, and make sure you have lots and lots and lots of real warm-bodied, warm hearted people in your life, that is the best medicine. Stay away from the chemicals.
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Post by lwoetin on May 24, 2016 0:14:59 GMT -5
What brings meaning to your life? What do you look forward to? I don't look for any meaning. I look forward to staying up at night, having cups of coffee so I stay awake, riding my bike/running when it is sunny, touching my wife's legs because she hates me touching her legs, seeing kids, hanging out here...in summary, nothing special except these are what I like doing.
Lastly, I'm sorry for acting like an ass lately. Please cheer up and feel better soon.
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Post by petrushka on May 24, 2016 4:40:34 GMT -5
I just noticed that there's one question that I never answered, and that is "what brings meaning to your life".
What brings meaning to my life is to be the best I can at whatever I do. I get a huge amount of satisfaction and affirmation from a job well done. I am a perfectionist, and when I see I did something well, really well, that brings a smile to my face and gives me one hell of a rise in self worth.
And the other thing that brings meaning to my life is to continue to grow, continue to learn, to keep an open mind (but not so open that the wind blows in one ear and out the other side). I am worried about that. Practically everybody in my mother's family has dementia. My father and one half brother have lost their minds. I can only hope that my mind stays sharp. Looking, observing, learning - that gives a lot of meaning to MY life.
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Post by snowman12345 on May 24, 2016 5:35:27 GMT -5
What brings meaning to life? Find a passion. A passion is just something that makes you lose control. A hobby, an author or a band can elicit passion. If you find the right person - they can make you passionate. It is something that is outside of yourself that draws and hold your attention for hours/days/years. Learn about it. Become and expert in it. There is so much real beauty in this old world. Don't give up!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 7:17:39 GMT -5
What Fiery said about the exercise. @helentishappy, I've spouted off about regular high intensity exercise before, but mostly from the perspective of raising spirits and increasing metabolism. But Fiery raises an even better reason -- sleep. Getting up early and exercising makes sleeping at night much easier. And I'm a night owl by nature. But the night owl life style will kill you (me).
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Post by bballgirl on May 24, 2016 7:54:51 GMT -5
@helen - I'm so sorry you are struggling Helen. I hope you get to feeling better soon. I have had times in my life where I was depressed and to cope I exercised, tried to spend time with friends, did fun activities with my children, spent time on EP, music - I just love music and it's an escape for me. Those are just some things.
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Post by baza on May 24, 2016 8:52:47 GMT -5
The way I am reading this Sister helen (and bear in mind my medical degree is in my other jeans pocket) is that maybe you need to go back a stage. Are you up to date on your meds ? Might your meds need review ? Does your treating health professional enjoy your confidence ? Might there be a case to be made for a full review of your present medical regime ? - It is fucking hard to "spark up" and try some of the excellent suggestions (above) if the battery level is pretty well down. Maybe the battery might respond to some different / adjusted inputs. - Wish I had a magic wand I could wave over you. But I haven't - nor do I have a medical degree !!!
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