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Post by kiltedpadre on Dec 30, 2016 23:33:11 GMT -5
I currently have a Glock Model 30 for concealed carry. I decided to go .45acp since I already had a pretty good supply of rounds for my 1911 and am set-up for reloading it as well.
I keep considering getting something else but can't decide what I want just yet. I'll probably look at something in 9mm this time due to the lower cost of ammunition since reloading isn't quite the money saver it used to be.
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Post by wewbwb on Dec 31, 2016 15:50:52 GMT -5
Reloading is more about getting exactly what you want. I would also be very careful about reloading for a carry pistol and doing any modifications on it. It WILL come up if the pistol is ever fired outside a range.
9mm with defensive rounds have just as good stopping power as a 40 or a 45.
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Post by kiltedpadre on Dec 31, 2016 16:20:10 GMT -5
I've never handloaded for carry use; only for target use and I loaded some .45 colt for hunting simply because in my area no shops carrying anything but defensive and cowboy style loads in that caliber.
In the past for ball ammo I could save between 25-30% compared to factory loads. With shotshells I could do even better if I started with good enough hulls where I could get several reloads from them. Lead cost has just gone up even faster than the cost of factory shells it seems.
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Post by wewbwb on Dec 31, 2016 16:32:59 GMT -5
This is true.
I only load for competition now.
I need to do a some skeet. Can't wait till spring.
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Post by JonDoe on Dec 31, 2016 17:55:53 GMT -5
Took my son to the range the other day. We shot 100 rounds on the IWI US Tavor X95 rifle and 100 on my Glock 19. What a blast!  |
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Post by petrushka on Jan 10, 2017 6:29:11 GMT -5
Was just reading this on the BBC website a couple of days ago:
USA - 321 million people, 12,570 deaths due to shootings.
Britain, 64 million people, 30 deaths due to shootings.
What does that learn us?
I think I'd rather live on my side of the pacific. NO handguns. (and before you go ballistic at me, I own 3 *long* rifles
and a shotgun myself but they're not for 'protecting' me and mine and I don't obsess about them - I hunt varmint).
Anyway, I am sure I'm not going to change anybody's mind here .....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 9:51:21 GMT -5
Addressing concealed carry. Go with a glock for the simple reason reliability, even straight from the box. You have to trust it completely. My concealed system is a glock 26 - I then have a 17 rounds mag from G17, then 15 round from G19. I add x-grip to the magazine which really helps with look and handling - Then if I have it in car, home or carry in a messenger bag I have 17 round mag in. in winter in big coat the 15 round and summer in shorts I can holster in the standard small 10 round - instead of the what looks prettiest pick what's more practical For your needs.
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Post by snowman12345 on Jan 11, 2017 0:17:41 GMT -5
A little Remington .380. Smooth frame, light weight,and fair accuracy at close range. Not a bad price point.
S&W M&P - awesome guns. I had a .40 cal. Not much good for concealment, but a heck of a lot of fun with great boom factor.
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Post by snowman12345 on Jan 11, 2017 0:50:49 GMT -5
Was just reading this on the BBC website a couple of days ago: USA - 321 million people, 12,570 deaths due to shootings. Britain, 64 million people, 30 deaths due to shootings. What does that learn us? I think I'd rather live on my side of the pacific. NO handguns. (and before you go ballistic at me, I own 3 *long* rifles and a shotgun myself but they're not for 'protecting' me and mine and I don't obsess about them - I hunt varmint). Anyway, I am sure I'm not going to change anybody's mind here ..... I get why you feel safe. But, ponder this, the very reason you want to stay on your side of the pond is one of the reasons we fight so hard to keep our guns. The Japanese decided not to invade the U.S. because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. When the time comes, I want to be able to shoot back. |
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Post by unmatched on Jan 11, 2017 1:23:38 GMT -5
Was just reading this on the BBC website a couple of days ago: USA - 321 million people, 12,570 deaths due to shootings. Britain, 64 million people, 30 deaths due to shootings. What does that learn us? I think I'd rather live on my side of the pacific. NO handguns. (and before you go ballistic at me, I own 3 *long* rifles and a shotgun myself but they're not for 'protecting' me and mine and I don't obsess about them - I hunt varmint). Anyway, I am sure I'm not going to change anybody's mind here ..... I get why you feel safe. But, ponder this, the very reason you want to stay on your side of the pond is one of the reasons we fight so hard to keep our guns. The Japanese decided not to invade the U.S. because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. When the time comes, I want to be able to shoot back. I always thought Japan never had any intention of invading America. They just thought they could win a naval war because it was so far from US soil and by doing so could cripple American influence in their region. Guns or not they never could have supported a full scale invasion. |
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Post by baza on Jan 11, 2017 1:45:29 GMT -5
I think you might find the Japanese did not have the logistical capability to invade the west coast of the US at the best of times.
They had planned to invade northern Australia but found they didn't even have the logistical capability of doing that.
New Zealand was another place floated as an invasion prospect, but by that time the battle of the coral sea, and the hiding they got at Midway had depleted their logistical capabilities even further.
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Post by wewbwb on Jan 11, 2017 6:34:36 GMT -5
The philosophy of self defense, and self determination, the radical difference in governmental ideals, and the differences in culture are all way to complex to into here.
Even here in the states, the very basic numbers are debatable.
Lets leave this one alone.
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Post by snowman12345 on Jan 11, 2017 8:39:40 GMT -5
Whether or not Japan could have invaded the US is beside the point - if you know your opponent is armed and willing to fight; you may be less inclined to attack.
Another question might be - where did the BBC get it's statistics? In what context?
250,000 people died from medical errors (Johns Hopkins study) last year. Why should gun violence bother us more than that statistic? It seems to be a bigger problem, don't you think?
Just saying that you feel safer not having guns; I feel safer having them. We can debate the minutia of statistics all day - but at the end of the day it will not change how we feel about the subject.
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Post by DryCreek on Jan 11, 2017 11:34:56 GMT -5
Statistics do make for an interesting discussion, especially when several perspectives are considered.
But in the end, I think the real discussion is about culture, and the behavior it engenders. I think that has a far more material effect on violence than the availability of a particular tool. Hell, we've got people using semi trucks as their weapon of choice now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 11:47:54 GMT -5
I am a criminal prosecutor & I carry a Glock 23 (.40 cal) on my hip every day. I wear a suit, so the jacket conceals it well. In casual clothes, I have a Glock 43 in a pocket holster. I have other handguns, but I have NEVER had a Glock jam on me.
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