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Post by JonDoe on Nov 27, 2016 10:11:23 GMT -5
As many as 30% of men and 50% of women say they have little or no sex drive. Could it be at least partially caused by the synthetic estrogens (endocrine disrupters) from plastics like BPA, petroleum based products, detergents, cosmetics, furniture, carpeting, thermal receipts and on our food from agriculture chemicals like pesticides, herbicides and fungicides? How about social media? My wife admits to spending at least an hour per day on Facebook. That seven hours per week! Attachments:![](//storage.proboards.com/6484335/thumbnailer/6RaYJZbsY9TaTSeZCJyQ.JPG)
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Post by beachguy on Nov 27, 2016 10:52:05 GMT -5
You know, my STBX's excuse list was a mile long. But she never threw down the BPA card. Ever ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by obobfla on Nov 27, 2016 12:00:16 GMT -5
I don't think it's social media. However, I can attest to the affects of some drugs and chemicals. To me, the greatest libido suppressor is fear.
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Post by DryCreek on Nov 27, 2016 12:33:04 GMT -5
I agree with you that it's systemic, somehow. I have no idea if it's cultural, chemicals, or technology. I would be very interested to see a study by geography. There have been great studies on diet and disease, if only sex had been included.
In Japan I've read that it's gotten to a crazy level where guys there are only interested in career and not women. They are perhaps the highest-tech culture on the planet. Does the issue exist in such levels in less developed countries?
For example, estrogen supplements used for birth control can't be filtered by sewage processing plants, and it's been appearing in our food supply as a result. As some municipalities strive for 100% recycling of their water supply, where does that lead us?
Population growth is leading mankind to screw with ecology and other systems beyond our ability to see or comprehend. I suspect sexlessness is one of the milder consequences.
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Post by beachguy on Nov 27, 2016 13:01:34 GMT -5
Or maybe people just aren't naturally monogamous
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Post by greatcoastal on Nov 27, 2016 15:13:08 GMT -5
I am a big fan of someones up-bringing, trauma, and self esteem. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, seems to apply often.
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Post by GeekGoddess on Nov 27, 2016 17:16:44 GMT -5
I do find endocrine disrupters feasible as an aggravator of this symptom.
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Post by JonDoe on Nov 27, 2016 17:40:44 GMT -5
I don't think it is the only factor or even the most significant factor, but it shouldn't be ignored either.
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Post by nancyb on Nov 27, 2016 20:39:47 GMT -5
Or maybe people just aren't naturally monogamous Bingo!
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Post by baza on Nov 27, 2016 21:09:46 GMT -5
I have an exercise people might like to complete. Making a basic assumption that - "synthetic estrogens (endocrine disrupters) from plastics like BPA, petroleum based products, detergents, cosmetics, furniture, carpeting, thermal receipts and on our food from agriculture chemicals like pesticides, herbicides and fungicides" are the true "why" your deal is an ILIASM shithole, I'd invite anyone to write a piece on how this knowledge would materially alter anything in your ILIASM shithole. - Your options - in the above scenarioed "why" are exactly the same. The "why" doesn't matter. You still have the same choices, irrespective of the "why".
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Post by JonDoe on Nov 27, 2016 22:03:58 GMT -5
baza I was in no way suggesting that this is why any of us have experienced a sexless marriage nor was I suggesting that it will bring sex back into our marriages or prevent divorce. However, as it relates to a potentially significant percentage of the population that report having a low libido or no libido, I find it relevant to this forum. Furthermore, many of us are parents and may someday become grandparents, and some are already grandparents, who have influence on what we feed to children and what products we use in our households that may potentially affect children. As such, my intention was to write a short initial post to see if there was further interest and discussion. I like to believe that we are a thinking group here, and as such sharing some potentially alarming "statistics" and trying to invoke a thought provoking discussion can't be all bad can it? I find your first post in this thread to be very close minded in much the same way that many nay sayers react to claims of global warming. It's ok if you disagree, everyone is equally entitled to an opinion, but at least add something of value instead of being snarky and challenging someone to write a paper and submit it to "Dr. Baza" for review. I find that a tad trollish. If you felt this thread was posted to the wrong section, then perhaps you could have kindly suggested this post belongs in the "Off Topic" section.
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Post by solodriver on Nov 28, 2016 0:39:32 GMT -5
You know, my STBX's excuse list was a mile long. But she never threw down the BPA card. Ever She will now lol!
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Post by beachguy on Nov 28, 2016 8:26:25 GMT -5
You know, my STBX's excuse list was a mile long. But she never threw down the BPA card. Ever She will now lol! Not with me. That ship sailed 2 years ago. Maybe 10 depending on how you count...
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Post by solodriver on Nov 28, 2016 12:57:48 GMT -5
You know, my STBX's excuse list was a mile long. But she never threw down the BPA card. Ever She will now lol! I can hear it now: "I'm sorry sweetie, as much as I would love to be intimate with you, I drank my water from a plastic bottle and the material from the plastic bottle has shut down my desires."
Damn plastics.
Brings to mind the movie "The Graduate" about how plastics were the wave of the future. Some future.
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Post by csl on Nov 28, 2016 15:22:00 GMT -5
Opening up a can o' worms, but maybe porn is the problem for much of what we are seeing in those stats.
Check out this TEDx Talk by Gary Wilson from a couple of years ago, and check out the science behind it:
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