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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 12, 2020 11:15:36 GMT -5
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Post by jerri on Dec 12, 2020 15:47:36 GMT -5
I wonder what the grey areas are to this behavior and how it affects people in a sexless marrige. There's a book out there called Men wWho Can't Love" I thought my H fit into some of the commitment phobic behavior on a lighter scale. But then my H can commit to a lot of different things.
This person didn't even take the risk of just having a fun time.
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 12, 2020 17:28:33 GMT -5
jerri* Think of all the SM and spouses who avoid taking the risk to have a 'fun time', they are independant, emotionally distant and tend to equate intimacy with a loss of independence.( their fear of being submissive- giving it up for sex)
My ex is one of those who during her childhood was not part of the "in crowd" and decided to be a bookworm instead. ( this got her very high grades and continued to her Masters degree) Her independence and lack of needing intimacy carried through to our marriage. She still had needs, a man to be married too, so she would 'fit in' with society. A man who would be more like 'the mother' in a family relationship, so she could be 'mom' while giving it all to her career.
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Post by jerri on Dec 12, 2020 17:42:12 GMT -5
So they do what they think they need to do to fit the norm, then just decide what they want and don't want. That is when we lose out.
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Post by baza on Dec 12, 2020 17:43:34 GMT -5
I reckon that in ILIASM situations "avoidance" is rife.
There's usually one of the spouses trying to avoid close engagement with the other.
There's the other spouse trying to avoid the turmoil and heartbreak of dismantling the marriage.
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 12, 2020 17:49:48 GMT -5
So they do what they think they need to do to fit the norm, then just decide what they want and don't want. That is when we lose out. That's pretty much it. It also fits the pattern of a manipulative controller, a narcissist. It also relates to the study about DARVO. The "A" in DARVO stands for Avoidant. I've also read about "greysexual". Basically someone who doesn't like sex (being submissive) and can take it or leave it. They have sex to procreate, and then they leave it, they're done. Then comes the "dangling of the carrot, moving of the goal post, bait and switch, etc.....
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 13, 2020 15:19:48 GMT -5
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