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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 17:48:05 GMT -5
Too close to politics for me. I love you guys but I'm out on this thread.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 25, 2021 18:12:19 GMT -5
I actually love talking politics, because I see those I disagree with as being people with bad ideas, and believe the free exchange of ideas can change that. Sadly, some people see those that they disagree with as being bad people with ideas.
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Post by saarinista on Feb 25, 2021 18:58:18 GMT -5
Too close to politics for me. I love you guys but I'm out on this thread. Yep. I am, too. |
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Post by Handy on Feb 25, 2021 20:32:45 GMT -5
I like to remind people just because you believe something to be true, it doesn't make it true.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 26, 2021 0:59:11 GMT -5
I like to remind people just because you believe something to be true, it doesn't make it true. As John Maynard Keynes once said when debating another economist, "when the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?" Sadly, we are seeing digital book burning, and, in opposition to Goebbels, a lie repeated a thousand times doesn't make it true. |
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Post by Handy on Feb 26, 2021 10:44:29 GMT -5
Ironhamster, if masks do not work, why do surgeons wear masks while doing surgery? Maybe early on people used their mask for too long or wore it improperly. At first I had 3 masks and left the unused one in the window area so the sun was shining on them to help kill at least some germs or viruses. Now I have more of the blue masks, I still leave the unused masks in the sun by the window.
I agree with , a lie repeated a thousand times doesn't make it true.
Cases by country, Just put or remove a check marl on the left side of the page.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 27, 2021 0:24:46 GMT -5
Masks during surgery prevent saliva from getting into open wounds.
It would be interesting to see what the Covid infection rate is among dentists. Dentists are trained to not touch their face. They tend to not get the flu and colds because of this.
I'm not going to say masks are useless, but I hope we can all agree that they are politicized to some extent. I might get yelled at for not wearing a mask, but when is the last time you saw anyone get yelled at because they touched their face to wipe their eyes and adjust their mask without washing their hands for twenty seconds? I never have seen that.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 27, 2021 0:30:10 GMT -5
It's fascinating how the number of new cases has dropped off, in tandem, in both the UK and the US, very recently, per the graph on your link Handy. What do you think is going on, there? |
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 27, 2021 0:34:05 GMT -5
Also, look at the total confirmed Covid deaths in India. Do you know what they are doing differently, because, the data indicates third world medicine is better than Boston's biotech empire as a whole.
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Post by Handy on Feb 27, 2021 2:18:25 GMT -5
Ironhamster, I also noticed several countries Covid cases declining and I don't know all of the reasons why. I know for me, I am actually more careful now than I was in the beginning of the pandemic and I stay home more.
My opinion is, several factors play into the number of new Covid infections and I do not have the skills or data to determine why. There are two cities in my state with similar populations. One city only had about 60% of the infection rate as the city I live near.
Three counties had zero infections until the Sturgis Motor Cycle Rally in August, then they they had 10 cases. Now they are back to one. They were down to zero cases for a long time in the fall.
I asked my dental hygienist if anyone in the office got Covid from working there. She said no but two people did get Covid while on vacation. Masks are mandatory in the dental office and clients are scheduled so not many are in the waiting area and over half of the chairs were removed. Everyone was temperature checked. The magazines and the coffee pot were removed and all clients had to use hand sanitizer before signing paper work.
It was the same way for all of my cancer treatments at a different location.
If doctors and dentist have distancing standards, mask wearing rules and hand sanitizing rules, I think they know more than I do about avoiding Covid.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 27, 2021 3:42:52 GMT -5
I'm less careful. I'm ready for this to be over. I was ready for it to be over when Fauci was ok with mostly peaceful riots. I have my antiviral supplements, and haven't had a cold or flu in the three years I have been on them. I have my third world anti-coronavirus medications, which appear effective even though discussing them is banned on the big social media platforms. I want to resume my life, and I think those of us that do should be allowed to take calculated risks.
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Post by Handy on Feb 27, 2021 3:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by greatcoastal on Feb 27, 2021 10:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by mirrororchid on Mar 1, 2021 19:28:24 GMT -5
Masks during surgery prevent saliva from getting into open wounds. It would be interesting to see what the Covid infection rate is among dentists. Dentists are trained to not touch their face. They tend to not get the flu and colds because of this. I'm not going to say masks are useless, but I hope we can all agree that they are politicized to some extent. I might get yelled at for not wearing a mask, but when is the last time you saw anyone get yelled at because they touched their face to wipe their eyes and adjust their mask without washing their hands for twenty seconds? I never have seen that. Not wearing a mask infects others. Touching your face infects you. Not sure anyone is ready to start a confrontation for someone endangering themselves. A gentle inquiry as to whether they are aware of the risks they are taking might be worthwhile, but yelling? Hey, his funeral. A bit like dentists. Customers sit in chairs. dozens of customers drop in. www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/health/coronavirus-hair-salon-masks.htmlCalculated risks? Might be okay. Not sure which risks affect just the brave and don't affect the cowards around him. Like masks. They are for the crowd, they are not primarily meant to protect the wearer. Going to a bar might be a good start. Everyone there is 21 or older so typically lower risk anyway. No children. Impractical to go drinking but keep a mask on. Hopefully parents of newborns would hold off a while. It is an interesting thing to see how closely bars opening in WV and COVID outbreaks correlated. I got COVID. I'm no risk to anyone and am very unlikely to be hurt by an infected person. But I understand we need maybe a month more so everyone who wants a vaccine can get one. Refusing a vaccine is a risk I might be okay with too. www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/02/17/pentagon-officials-say-one-in-three-military-troops-are-refusing-the-coronavirus-vaccine/?sh=25bd3c9b1ed2Get the vaccine to everyone who wants it first. That's kind of a risk taking that doesn't matter much, I would think. Hopefully soldiers with newborns might be inclined to trust big pharma a bit more, given the stakes. Fewer deaths in India? www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31857-2/fulltextPoor recordkeeping seems to play a role. (China has one of the lowest death rates, if you believe THEIR numbers.) Places hit by COVID early didn't have as much warning of its lethality. Techniques were developed over time so the longer it took to get an outbreak the better you handled it. New York, New Orleans, and California have bad numbers. They got hit first. India was put on notice. A lot more folks flying from Wuhan to America than India, I'd wager. I don't have documentation. |
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Post by worksforme2 on Mar 4, 2021 8:49:33 GMT -5
Way back on Aug.24th I 1st posted about schools in NC and remote learning. I have posted on several occasions updating what I have and am seeing in remote learning. I am not impressed. And I have expressed concern about the simplicity of the lessons and what I see as an environment that does not challenge the kids very much. I said I feared a sizable % of kids were receiving a poor education both in quality and quantity. Now this morning I read that 65% of 1st and 3rd grade students in NC failed midpoint math testing. The expectation is that perhaps 20% will not be promoted to the next grade. And I worry about many of those who may be promoted as they may be just barely making the cut line.
A weeks ago their class reviewed that test and not surprisingly a lot of them could not answer the math questions. One of my grandsons was surprised and remarked to me about how poor his classmates were at the answers.
Admittedly my postings are based on 1 3rd grade class doing remote learning but I have learned over the decades that concerning schools every grade class does pretty much the same curriculum. So I'm willing to bet they are all getting a dummied down version of studies.
I hate to say it but my previously expressed fear that an entire generation of kids is being handicapped by current educational policy seems to be happening, at least here in NC. The posted results of exam grading seems to be bearing out those fears.
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