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Post by deadzone75 on Dec 19, 2018 19:52:27 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's possible for a typically very high sex drive person to just stop caring if she gets it anymore? I'm starting to notice I don't think about or ever crave sex as much as I used to. Can't help but think I'm shutting down a bit because, I guess, why bother? Wanting it is only going to be an unmet desire. So, shut down, go numb, and stop thinking about it. Can your drive just lessen or go away? I don't even break out my toy near as much as I used to either. Seems so strange to me. Thoughts? The drive to have sex with my wife is very low at this point. Years of a sexless marriage has left me with so much frustration and resentment, that it's all I can think of on the rare occasion that we have sex. That, when we have sex, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, better enjoy this one, pal...who knows how many months until next time. That kind of messes with you to the point you afraid to get off because you want it to last as long as possible. But as far as my drive, it's still very high. I have to resolve my own issues pretty much daily. If only someone would have told me that one day I would have more fun with my hand than I would with the woman I said vows to....if only. If I could go back in time 14 years ago, I'd punch myself right in the face.
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Post by DryCreek on Dec 19, 2018 20:35:24 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's possible for a typically very high sex drive person to just stop caring if she gets it anymore? I'm starting to notice I don't think about or ever crave sex as much as I used to. Can't help but think I'm shutting down a bit because, I guess, why bother? Wanting it is only going to be an unmet desire. I don’t think it goes away, but I do think it can be overridden / suppressed due to negative reinforcement. If you got zapped every time you went for the cheese, you’d lose interest in trying because the failure rate is high and the pain isn’t worth the attempt. That doesn’t stop you from craving cheese, but it’d sure make you hesitant even if it was handed to you. As an emotional survival response, it makes sense. In the bigger picture, it’s survival, but at what cost?
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Post by greatcoastal on Dec 19, 2018 22:01:02 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's possible for a typically very high sex drive person to just stop caring if she gets it anymore? I'm starting to notice I don't think about or ever crave sex as much as I used to. Can't help but think I'm shutting down a bit because, I guess, why bother? Wanting it is only going to be an unmet desire. So, shut down, go numb, and stop thinking about it. Can your drive just lessen or go away? I don't even break out my toy near as much as I used to either. Seems so strange to me. Thoughts? I'll share some recent personal experience from opposite land. First of all, take into account that I had 10 yrs of vanila, once every two weeks, and then 14 yrs of practically nothing. Then a crazy two year divorce and 9 months of finding a new partner. Also that I am 55 yrs old and that 1 out of every two men my age are experiencing ED. I assumed that my at home alone ( hands on experience) would mean I would welcome once a day. So far ( in my limited experience that's true.) However I am also experiencing a far greater need for reconnecting on an intimate personal level. Of knowing that greatcoastal the person is just as accepted as greatcoastal the physical male. I hope that makes sense? Heavy ,intense kissing, intense hard hand rubbing to my chest and hair. And constant touching from the moment we meet ,may have sounded like a dream, but is turning out to be too much, too soon. Almost overwhelming. Sometimes it even hurts! This has me wondering, has my body changed in how it reacts? Did all of that mental abuse have a physical effect as well? Did my drive lessen or go away? Is there a lack of confidence or desire? Does self doubt creep into things? Well I still care if I get it (sex), it's very important, it has a very high value and significant meaning. But it has to have significant meaning, I have to feel secure that there will be a next time. I have to know that my 'performance' left my partner desiring more in the morning. Will it all heal in time? Will I react different from one partner or another? Partners have different 'styles, touches, methods, preferences, experiences, too. How am I going to find what fits? There's a lot more communicating verbally and physically that needs to happen. In your case @whynotm3, if this communicating does not happen, you will be left with more doubt and more questions that another partner can hopefully help you figure out together in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 22:11:55 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's possible for a typically very high sex drive person to just stop caring if she gets it anymore? I'm starting to notice I don't think about or ever crave sex as much as I used to. Can't help but think I'm shutting down a bit because, I guess, why bother? Wanting it is only going to be an unmet desire. So, shut down, go numb, and stop thinking about it. Can your drive just lessen or go away? I don't even break out my toy near as much as I used to either. Seems so strange to me. Thoughts? I'll share some recent personal experience from opposite land. First of all, take into account that I had 10 yrs of vanila, once every two weeks, and then 14 yrs of practically nothing. Then a crazy two year divorce and 9 months of finding a new partner. Also that I am 55 yrs old and that 1 out of every two men my age are experiencing ED. I assumed that my at home alone ( hands on experience) would mean I would welcome once a day. So far ( in my limited experience that's true.) However I am also experiencing a far greater need for reconnecting on an intimate personal level. Of knowing that greatcoastal the person is just as accepted as greatcoastal the physical male. I hope that makes sense? Heavy ,intense kissing, intense hard hand rubbing to my chest and hair. And constant touching from the moment we meet ,may have sounded like a dream, but is turning out to be too much, too soon. Almost overwhelming. Sometimes it even hurts! This has me wondering, has my body changed in how it reacts? Did all of that mental abuse have a physical effect as well? Did my drive lessen or go away? Is there a lack of confidence or desire? Does self doubt creep into things? Well I still care if I get it (sex), it's very important, it has a very high value and significant meaning. But it has to have significant meaning, I have to feel secure that there will be a next time. I have to know that my 'performance' left my partner desiring more in the morning. Will it all heal in time? Will I react different from one partner or another? Partners have different 'styles, touches, methods, preferences, experiences, too. How am I going to find what fits? There's a lot more communicating verbally and physically that needs to happen. In your case @whynotm3, if this communicating does not happen, you will be left with more doubt and more questions that another partner can hopefully help you figure out together in the future. greatcoastal ... thank you very much. You gave me a different perspective and a few things to ponder.
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Post by h on Dec 20, 2018 7:16:09 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's possible for a typically very high sex drive person to just stop caring if she gets it anymore? I'm starting to notice I don't think about or ever crave sex as much as I used to. Can't help but think I'm shutting down a bit because, I guess, why bother? Wanting it is only going to be an unmet desire. So, shut down, go numb, and stop thinking about it. Can your drive just lessen or go away? I don't even break out my toy near as much as I used to either. Seems so strange to me. Thoughts? The drive to have sex with my wife is very low at this point. Years of a sexless marriage has left me with so much frustration and resentment, that it's all I can think of on the rare occasion that we have sex. That, when we have sex, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, better enjoy this one, pal...who knows how many months until next time. That kind of messes with you to the point you afraid to get off because you want it to last as long as possible. But as far as my drive, it's still very high. I have to resolve my own issues pretty much daily. If only someone would have told me that one day I would have more fun with my hand than I would with the woman I said vows to....if only. If I could go back in time 14 years ago, I'd punch myself right in the face. I know exactly what you mean. Every sexual encounter was a struggle for me to make it last as long as possible because I never knew how long I would have to wait for the next one. Sometimes the resentment over living like that would even mess with my ability to finish at all. My drive is high also. I have to handle me business daily too. I no longer expect anything from her anymore. I quit initiating because, as DryCreek put it with his lab rat analogy: I had been zapped too many times for trying to get the cheese. The pain of getting "zapped" isn't worth the cheese anymore. Now the fear of getting zapped prevents me from trying. All sexual encounters are initiated by my W now. We had sex back in the first weekend of December. Before that it was a 3 months since the last time. It was nice and I didn't have the resentment, because I expect nothing from her. Lack of expectations has helped me focus on reality. Our marriage is doomed. It will end. Not as soon as I want, but sooner than she expects. Sex in marriage is supposed to be an expectation. If there is no expectation of sex, to me there is no marriage.
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Post by deadzone75 on Dec 20, 2018 11:18:35 GMT -5
The drive to have sex with my wife is very low at this point. Years of a sexless marriage has left me with so much frustration and resentment, that it's all I can think of on the rare occasion that we have sex. That, when we have sex, in the back of my mind I'm thinking, better enjoy this one, pal...who knows how many months until next time. That kind of messes with you to the point you afraid to get off because you want it to last as long as possible. But as far as my drive, it's still very high. I have to resolve my own issues pretty much daily. If only someone would have told me that one day I would have more fun with my hand than I would with the woman I said vows to....if only. If I could go back in time 14 years ago, I'd punch myself right in the face. I know exactly what you mean. Every sexual encounter was a struggle for me to make it last as long as possible because I never knew how long I would have to wait for the next one. Sometimes the resentment over living like that would even mess with my ability to finish at all. My drive is high also. I have to handle me business daily too. I no longer expect anything from her anymore. I quit initiating because, as DryCreek put it with his lab rat analogy: I had been zapped too many times for trying to get the cheese. The pain of getting "zapped" isn't worth the cheese anymore. Now the fear of getting zapped prevents me from trying. All sexual encounters are initiated by my W now. We had sex back in the first weekend of December. Before that it was a 3 months since the last time. It was nice and I didn't have the resentment, because I expect nothing from her. Lack of expectations has helped me focus on reality. Our marriage is doomed. It will end. Not as soon as I want, but sooner than she expects. Sex in marriage is supposed to be an expectation. If there is no expectation of sex, to me there is no marriage. I feel ya there. The three times my wife has allowed me to have sex this year were three encounters that left me feeling worse afterwards. Because my performance was hampered by the fact I knew this would be it for months, and because there was nothing outstanding or memorable about the encounters. It was this feeling like, I waited and suffered 5 months...for that? Talk about insult to injury. Zero expectations. Zero.
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Post by Handy on Dec 20, 2018 16:28:09 GMT -5
I have read where sexual and emotional connections are few and far between, the sex and emotion starved person needs some sex and intimacy to happen 2 to 4 times to dissipate the feeling of rejection. The first few times after a long abstinence are just getting the rust off of the prior emotional loneliness. It takes a couple of times getting to get the rust off before getting down to the metal that counts.
My main source for the above was a woman that shared her feelings on why one go round of sex every couple of months didn't satisfy her. For her satisfaction came after the rd or 4 time sex happened in a day or two. Like a lot of us here, there was zero sex the same or the next / couple of days, so she never was emotionally satisfied.
Last I heard, she moved to the basement bedroom / TV room and her former bedroom with her H was on the second floor. She admitted the distance was a relief or at least a way to feel less frustrated.
I don't know why a refuser thinks 1X a season should be enough to satisfy a HD desires. I like french fries so why is it unusual to eat then twice in a week? BTW, I can also be happy with broccoli 2 or 3 times a week.
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Post by muzack on Dec 23, 2018 0:36:08 GMT -5
........ I quit initiating because, as DryCreek put it with his lab rat analogy: I had been zapped too many times for trying to get the cheese. The pain of getting "zapped" isn't worth the cheese anymore. Now the fear of getting zapped prevents me from trying. All sexual encounters are initiated by my W now. We had sex back in the first weekend of December. Before that it was a 3 months since the last time. It was nice and I didn't have the resentment, because I expect nothing from her........... Man. So familiar, I thought I was thinking out loud again.
Pretty much the same as the conversations I have had with my wife that get her upset.
She tells me I have given up. I tell her that I am persuing the path that causes me the least pain. Trying to initiate gets me satisfying sex <1% of the time, unsatisfying starfish sex slightly more often, and frustration >95%.
I used to sugar coat things like that, but that never really helped. At least honesty makes me feel good about myself.
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