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Post by darktippedrose on May 3, 2016 1:55:54 GMT -5
I am curious if family makes SM worse for you?
Sometimes I confide in my family, or vent to them. But then I just end up getting grilled by them and I feel much, much worse.
My grandma will get an upset stomach. My aunt gets sooooo angry because he uses me. She says I have battered woman syndrome. I can admit how wrong he his, but the moment he's home I just freeze up. I have no idea why.
My aunt says He's a dog. She just found out I pay for all the billz with the kidz SSI money, otherwise we'd be on the streets. She's pissed. My great aunt lectures me on how I can live on my own. Theres no way I can make it on my own and get everyone, including myself to all the drs appointments.
my great great aunt just prays that one day, when the time is right, that God will take him from our lives forever.
Does anyone else's family take your venting and just make it feel 10x worse?
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Post by unmatched on May 3, 2016 3:39:20 GMT -5
Rose, I know they make you feel worse, but they are on your side. They just want you out of an abusive, nasty relationship. I know some of us have said this before, and I don't want to keep labouring the point because I want you to feel supported here and able to come and say whatever you want. But please please find yourself a women's shelter or a citizen's advice office or something and get yourself some really good advice. There has to be a way you can make this work on your own, and there has to be help you can get with your kids given their conditions. You really need to get out of there, and you absolutely do not need to wait for him to die first.
If you are feeling lectured at right now, please say so and I will stop.
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Post by tamara68 on May 3, 2016 4:01:34 GMT -5
Your family will want you to leave your psychopath husband. They will want you to become happy. If they would only say they understand you and feel for you, you would feel supported but your situation would not change. I understand that you feel stressed and family pushing you can feel you feel even more stressed. But they do it because the want your life to become better. And probably they don't know how to help you. It is so good you have a counselor now, I wish for you that that will help you to get out of there. Perhaps as Unmatched suggests via a women's shelter.
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Post by Chatter Fox on May 3, 2016 7:36:42 GMT -5
I am curious if family makes SM worse for you? Sometimes I confide in my family, or vent to them. But then I just end up getting grilled by them and I feel much, much worse. My grandma will get an upset stomach. My aunt gets sooooo angry because he uses me. She says I have battered woman syndrome. I can admit how wrong he his, but the moment he's home I just freeze up. I have no idea why. My aunt says He's a dog. She just found out I pay for all the billz with the kidz SSI money, otherwise we'd be on the streets. She's pissed. My great aunt lectures me on how I can live on my own. Theres no way I can make it on my own and get everyone, including myself to all the drs appointments. my great great aunt just prays that one day, when the time is right, that God will take him from our lives forever. Does anyone else's family take your venting and just make it feel 10x worse? My family does make my decision making process more difficult. For me, my family (at least the ones I share this with) give her the benefit of the doubt. We are a happy couple on the outside. So many try to help me see the positive and they try to urge me to stay and cope somehow for the sake of the kids. So, my experience is kind of the opposite problem as yours. I want to leave and I kind of turn to family to almost get validated for my choice. Instead of getting the support I hope for, I get reasons to stay and tough it out. I get where they are coming from, but many don't understand that I've tried giving her the benefit of the doubt and staying and coping. I've done that for 10 years. I'm simply not able to continue to do that and still be truly happy. Even my therapist urges me to simply be positive. She says things like "your sex life is only one part of your relationship". My counter to that is "my right leg is just one part of my body... if someone went 10 years on crutches with a broken leg that only their partner could fix, wouldn't they eventually have trouble with continuing to focus on their healthy limbs as they hobble around day after day?". Anyway, point is that I can relate. Even though our situations are kind of opposite of each other, the end result is the same, reaching out for support has only made things worse. So I totally know what you're going through.
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Post by tamara68 on May 3, 2016 7:56:27 GMT -5
Even my therapist urges me to simply be positive. She says things like "your sex life is only one part of your relationship". My counter to that is "my right leg is just one part of my body... if someone went 10 years on crutches with a broken leg that only their partner could fix, wouldn't they eventually have trouble with continuing to focus on their healthy limbs as they hobble around day after day?". doesn't sound like a good therapist to me.
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Post by RumRunner on May 3, 2016 8:03:59 GMT -5
I am curious if family makes SM worse for you? Sometimes I confide in my family, or vent to them. But then I just end up getting grilled by them and I feel much, much worse. My grandma will get an upset stomach. My aunt gets sooooo angry because he uses me. She says I have battered woman syndrome. I can admit how wrong he his, but the moment he's home I just freeze up. I have no idea why. My aunt says He's a dog. She just found out I pay for all the billz with the kidz SSI money, otherwise we'd be on the streets. She's pissed. My great aunt lectures me on how I can live on my own. Theres no way I can make it on my own and get everyone, including myself to all the drs appointments. my great great aunt just prays that one day, when the time is right, that God will take him from our lives forever. Does anyone else's family take your venting and just make it feel 10x worse? I would be tempted to tell you the exact same advice that your family has told you, you should be happy and have someone that loves you and cares for you. At least you know that your family loves you very much since they want the best for you. My family likes my wife, so if I was to leave I would be the bad person no matter what so venting to them is useless. This place and one friend is all I have to vent my frustration and I am sure my one friend is probably getting tired of me by now.
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Post by Chatter Fox on May 3, 2016 8:04:54 GMT -5
Even my therapist urges me to simply be positive. She says things like "your sex life is only one part of your relationship". My counter to that is "my right leg is just one part of my body... if someone went 10 years on crutches with a broken leg that only their partner could fix, wouldn't they eventually have trouble with continuing to focus on their healthy limbs as they hobble around day after day?". doesn't sound like a good therapist to me. Yeah, I have been thinking of ditching her for a while now. I stick with her though because part of my overall self improvement goals is to learn to deal with conflict and to be more confident in myself. She challenges me in those ways since we don't see eye to eye on some things. It's good for me to use instances such as that to practice my ability to handle conflicts with someone in a calm and productive manner. Plus, she does have her strong points. Still, I'd love to go to a new one to get a new perspective on my marital issues. I may move onto another therapist some day in the near future. I'm not sure yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 8:30:00 GMT -5
I really only told my sister what was happening with me, and it took me over a decade to even tell her. I was so humiliated by what was happening to me that I couldn't tell anyone. The only person that knew was my therapist. When I did finally tell family, they were supportive but had a hard time believing me - they all really like my STBX and thought he was a great guy. They were all sure it would work out in time. Except my sister, she was 100% on my side - it's just that she had no experience with what I was going through so she wasn't really helpful, but at least she was supportive. I think they were all trying to be supportive in their own way - they didn't want to see me leave what they saw as this great person and end up struggling as a single mom with two young children. The problem with that attitude is that it kept me thinking that I should just be grateful for what I did have and not complain about the things that were missing. Until I found this group last summer, I never had any real support from people who actually understood my situation.
I do think your family is trying to be supportive. They want you to be safe and happy. I know your situation is complicated and that it isn't as easy as just packing up and leaving, but I'm sure they are worried that things may get even worse for you. I'm so glad you have a supportive counselor now and I hope you can start working on an exit plan that will get you out of there as soon as possible.
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Post by Dan on May 3, 2016 8:42:16 GMT -5
I am curious if family makes SM worse for you? I think the general lesson is this: regarding your SM (or any troubles in your life) choose your confidants carefully. Everyone's situation is different, everyone's family and friends are different... so there is no one answer. When it comes to my marriage woes, I am reluctant to confide in anyone I know IRL, as they all know my wife, too. Similarly: I have an adult son with mental health issues (mild bipolar, noteworthy social anxiety): likewise, as much as my friends like or love me, they are not the best ones to talk to about him. There are many factors: - They have some wisdom, but will have their own baggage and biases.
- They have some time, but not enough to solve all my problems.
- They have their own problems and challenges, too.
As such: - Consider a professional talk therapist: they know their stuff. (Consider a psychologist if there are certain serious behavioral issues with other family members, but for most relationship issues, an LCSW or MSW will do fine.)
- Even then: find one who "gets" you, and shares your values -- or at least respect them.
- Find supportive communities -- online or face-to-face self-help groups.
All this can be summarized as: "choose your confidants carefully".
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Post by Dan on May 3, 2016 9:02:23 GMT -5
... The problem with that attitude is that it kept me thinking that I should just be grateful for what I did have and not complain about the things that were missing. Here's the thing: With most medicine, the "right amount" is helpful... but too much of it is harmful. This is EXACTLY what I think of the advice: "just focus on the good stuff". In small doses, it helps us get through a day, overlook a minor problem with a spouse or a kid. It is a good technique to getting through life. I think it generally keeps us more positive, and keeps us happier. HOWEVER... if over-applied, it may prevent you from acknowledging a problem such as prolonged marital sexlessness, or signs of a child's substance abuse. That is when that advice -- that "medicine" -- becomes harmful. Eventually it becomes a sort of tool to suppress your "true self" and your true feelings. For example, in a sexless marriage, it becomes an unhealthy conclusion "I don't really need/deserve a normal, healthy, adult sex life -- because after all, other than the sex, he's a 'good man'/she's a 'good woman'." This is so obvious... but WHY OH WHY is it so hard to "see" when we are in the middle of it? And why is it that good-hearted people (like so many of us stuck in a the sexless marriage) are so prone to this?
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Post by greatcoastal on May 3, 2016 9:13:15 GMT -5
My family does make my decision making process more difficult. For me, my family (at least the ones I share this with) give her the benefit of the doubt. We are a happy couple on the outside. Even my therapist urges me to simply be positive. She says things like "your sex life is only one part of your relationship". For many people , FAMILY IS LIKE KRYPTONITE! It seems that no matter how much we've grown, how long we've been away, how far we've traveled in our own journeys, when we go back to family, we are suddenly children again! All the old dynamics, the patterns, the messages- they're all back trying to pull us down. (look at David and Goliath and how his cowardly brothers mocked him, made fun of his size, threw him in a pit! Ah..family!) how many an artist has been crushed by a family that prefers a " rational" approach to life? How many an engineer dismissed by a family of musicians? How many of us are lost in life simply because no one in our world saw our glory and affirmed it! remember little of this is your fault ( for others reading this too) it is one of the hardest, and richest things you ever do. Look for freedom in ways that will reveal that YOUR HEART IS GOOD! And your heart matters . DEEPLY. Caring for your own heart isn't selfish; it's how we begin to love. Yes, we care for our hearts for the sake of others. Does that sound like a contradiction? Not at all. What will you bring to others if your heart is empty, dried up,pinned down? Love is the point. And you can't love without your heart, and you can't love well unless your heart is well. How you handle your own heart is how you handle others!
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Post by wewbwb on May 3, 2016 9:13:52 GMT -5
I cannot tell anyone in my family anything. Apparently, my sister like my W more then me. I won't tell my sister the time. It makes it very lonely when your family cannot listen.
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Post by Chatter Fox on May 3, 2016 9:41:58 GMT -5
My family does make my decision making process more difficult. For me, my family (at least the ones I share this with) give her the benefit of the doubt. We are a happy couple on the outside. Even my therapist urges me to simply be positive. She says things like "your sex life is only one part of your relationship". For many people , FAMILY IS LIKE KRYPTONITE! It seems that no matter how much we've grown, how long we've been away, how far we've traveled in our own journeys, when we go back to family, we are suddenly children again! All the old dynamics, the patterns, the messages- they're all back trying to pull us down. (look at David and Goliath and how his cowardly brothers mocked him, made fun of his size, threw him in a pit! Ah..family!) how many an artist has been crushed by a family that prefers a " rational" approach to life? How many an engineer dismissed by a family of musicians? How many of us are lost in life simply because no one in our world saw our glory and affirmed it! remember little of this is your fault ( for others reading this too) it is one of the hardest, and richest things you ever do. Look for freedom in ways that will reveal that YOUR HEART IS GOOD! And your heart matters . DEEPLY. Caring for your own heart isn't selfish; it's how we begin to love. Yes, we care for our hearts for the sake of others. Does that sound like a contradiction? Not at all. What will you bring to others if your heart is empty, dried up,pinned down? Love is the point. And you can't love without your heart, and you can't love well unless your heart is well. How you handle your own heart is how you handle others! Beautifully said! Tysm!!!
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Post by LITW on May 3, 2016 12:37:13 GMT -5
My ex found an excuse to visit my sister every weekend for about a three month period following my divorce. During her visits, she regaled my sister with tales of my indiscretions and other moral failings. That was 18 years ago. My sister still won't talk to me.
Part of the reason I stay is that I remember the emotional shrapnel I went through during my divorce, and I do NOT want to go through that again.
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Post by unmatched on May 3, 2016 17:57:49 GMT -5
remember little of this is your fault ( for others reading this too) it is one of the hardest, and richest things you ever do. Look for freedom in ways that will reveal that YOUR HEART IS GOOD! And your heart matters . DEEPLY. Caring for your own heart isn't selfish; it's how we begin to love. Yes, we care for our hearts for the sake of others. Does that sound like a contradiction? Not at all. What will you bring to others if your heart is empty, dried up,pinned down? Love is the point. And you can't love without your heart, and you can't love well unless your heart is well. How you handle your own heart is how you handle others! We should pin this on the front page somewhere! Awesome.
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