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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 4, 2016 10:38:11 GMT -5
With improved health, most people between their late 60s and age 75 (2/3 of men and 2/5 of women) continue to be sexually active (Lindau et al. 2007). Not only are people in this stage of life having more sex but they are also enjoying it more (Beckman et al. 2008).
I like this chapter! LOL. And so needless to say, something far higher than 20% of women between age 50 and 60 DO presumably have and enjoy sex. Anyway - I can hardly wait to hear the cringing of the little 20 year olds in my classroom when the prof goes over this section in lecture.
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Post by bballgirl on Oct 4, 2016 12:01:04 GMT -5
With improved health, most people between their late 60s and age 75 (2/3 of men and 2/5 of women) continue to be sexually active (Lindau et al. 2007). Not only are people in this stage of life having more sex but they are also enjoying it more (Beckman et al. 2008). I like this chapter! LOL. And so needless to say, something far higher than 20% of women between age 50 and 60 DO presumably have and enjoy sex. Anyway - I can hardly wait to hear the cringing of the little 20 year olds in my classroom when the prof goes over this section in lecture. When I reach 62 and retire, I'd love to be a guest speaker in your class for that lecture series!
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Post by jim44444 on Oct 4, 2016 15:41:16 GMT -5
Why does the math of the studies never seem to work? Assumming nearly equal populations then since there are significantly more men enjoying sex than women I wonder if that implies an increase in homosexual behavior in older men or if the women are having more partners.
Personally, I have not given up yet.
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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 4, 2016 16:44:30 GMT -5
Why does the math of the studies never seem to work? Assumming nearly equal populations then since there are significantly more men enjoying sex than women I wonder if that implies an increase in homosexual behavior in older men or if the women are having more partners. Personally, I have not given up yet. Jim - I just learned a few stats in Gov't Policy the other day but this is still incomplete. Twice as many girl babies are generally born (I found that INCREDIBLE). Then for some reason the teacher didn't know, infant mortality tends to be higher in boys. AND - we send them to wars & such at a higher rate. AND the manly gender tends to be less risk-averse in sports (race cars, skydiving, etc). That info is all "stereotyping" if you look at it on an individual level, but I guess as a big-picture effect on populations, these are credible ideas. And I know that in the old folks home where my folks are, there are at least twice as many ladies as men (and it may be more off-balance than that even). So if there was ever a complete picture of "how many IS that" - then I would bet you that 2/5 of all women in this age group is a roughly SIMILAR number to 2/3 of all the men in this age group. It's just my guess. PS - do NOT give up!
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Post by jim44444 on Oct 4, 2016 21:13:41 GMT -5
Why does the math of the studies never seem to work? Assumming nearly equal populations then since there are significantly more men enjoying sex than women I wonder if that implies an increase in homosexual behavior in older men or if the women are having more partners. Personally, I have not given up yet. Jim - I just learned a few stats in Gov't Policy the other day but this is still incomplete. Twice as many girl babies are generally born (I found that INCREDIBLE). Then for some reason the teacher didn't know, infant mortality tends to be higher in boys. AND - we send them to wars & such at a higher rate. AND the manly gender tends to be less risk-averse in sports (race cars, skydiving, etc). That info is all "stereotyping" if you look at it on an individual level, but I guess as a big-picture effect on populations, these are credible ideas. And I know that in the old folks home where my folks are, there are at least twice as many ladies as men (and it may be more off-balance than that even). So if there was ever a complete picture of "how many IS that" - then I would bet you that 2/5 of all women in this age group is a roughly SIMILAR number to 2/3 of all the men in this age group. It's just my guess. PS - do NOT give up! "There were about 125.9 million adult women in the United States in 2014. The number of men was 119.4 million. At age 85 and older, there were almost twice as many women as men (4 million vs. 2.1 million)." USA Census Bureau This supports your observation of the old folks home. Going a bit further the 2010 census show about 20.2 million females in the 60 to 75 age groups versus 18 million males. So that is 8 million females (2/5) and 12 million males (2/3) who are sexually active. Sorry, I get a bit goofy with stats and numbers when they seem wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 21:45:51 GMT -5
With improved health, most people between their late 60s and age 75 (2/3 of men and 2/5 of women) continue to be sexually active (Lindau et al. 2007). Not only are people in this stage of life having more sex but they are also enjoying it more (Beckman et al. 2008). I like this chapter! LOL. And so needless to say, something far higher than 20% of women between age 50 and 60 DO presumably have and enjoy sex. Anyway - I can hardly wait to hear the cringing of the little 20 year olds in my classroom when the prof goes over this section in lecture. Just turned 51 on Sunday. I've never enjoyed sex so much. I fully expect it to be the same ten years from now.
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Post by beachguy on Oct 5, 2016 7:04:20 GMT -5
Jim - I just learned a few stats in Gov't Policy the other day but this is still incomplete. Twice as many girl babies are generally born (I found that INCREDIBLE). Then for some reason the teacher didn't know, infant mortality tends to be higher in boys. AND - we send them to wars & such at a higher rate. AND the manly gender tends to be less risk-averse in sports (race cars, skydiving, etc). That info is all "stereotyping" if you look at it on an individual level, but I guess as a big-picture effect on populations, these are credible ideas. And I know that in the old folks home where my folks are, there are at least twice as many ladies as men (and it may be more off-balance than that even). So if there was ever a complete picture of "how many IS that" - then I would bet you that 2/5 of all women in this age group is a roughly SIMILAR number to 2/3 of all the men in this age group. It's just my guess. PS - do NOT give up! "There were about 125.9 million adult women in the United States in 2014. The number of men was 119.4 million. At age 85 and older, there were almost twice as many women as men (4 million vs. 2.1 million)." USA Census Bureau This supports your observation of the old folks home. Going a bit further the 2010 census show about 20.2 million females in the 60 to 75 age groups versus 18 million males. So that is 8 million females (2/5) and 12 million males (2/3) who are sexually active. Sorry, I get a bit goofy with stats and numbers when they seem wrong. Perhaps the numbers seem wrong to you because you assume strict monogamy. Assumptions are always dangerous....
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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 5, 2016 7:45:57 GMT -5
beachguy - good point on that. And maybe the assertion from earlier is true that a female's interest wans earlier than a males - or maybe the older men have female partners that are 10 years younger!
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Post by beachguy on Oct 5, 2016 7:50:18 GMT -5
....or maybe the older men have female partners that are 10 years younger! ^^^ this is a definite possibility. More lechers than cougars?
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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 5, 2016 7:57:29 GMT -5
It's societal, I guess but it's more accepted for an older guy to be with a younger woman than the other way around. Being my actual age, though, and yet having a "young" outlook - in the 12-step program, my home has some hot young men and I'm considering "what would be so bad" if a particular one or two ARE interested in a cougar. It's a serious question for me (for my sobriety) because using people is no longer a practice I can engage in without suffering consequences (in the case of LoverMan, it was entirely agreed upon that we were fuck-buddies but I couldn't do that with a person in my program - it wouldn't be right for either of us). I have a huge crush on a particular masseuse who is "too young for me" but who gave me a hug last weekend that I canNOT stop thinking about. Mmm. I can hardly wait for when I'll have a chance to discuss it with him.
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Post by Caris on Oct 5, 2016 8:36:28 GMT -5
This makes me want to cry.
I am a healthy 62-year old woman, and this is so far removed from where I am. I am so damn lonely, and it's a gargantuan task to get through every day. I've given up hope, and I mean that. I have a physical coming up, and I wonder what's the point? If they find something wrong with me, I won't accept treatment. I'm tired. I'm tired of going through these painful motions every day. I'm going to accept my fate, and get this over with. I've had enough, and I am so very worn out. Mentally and emotionally, I'm drained. I have nothing more to give.
25-years of hell, preceded by a horribly abusive childhood to end up like this. It's too much.
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Post by beachguy on Oct 5, 2016 8:41:31 GMT -5
It's societal, I guess but it's more accepted for an older guy to be with a younger woman than the other way around. Being my actual age, though, and yet having a "young" outlook - in the 12-step program, my home has some hot young men and I'm considering "what would be so bad" if a particular one or two ARE interested in a cougar. It's a serious question for me (for my sobriety) because using people is no longer a practice I can engage in without suffering consequences (in the case of LoverMan, it was entirely agreed upon that we were fuck-buddies but I couldn't do that with a person in my program - it wouldn't be right for either of us). I have a huge crush on a particular masseuse who is "too young for me" but who gave me a hug last weekend that I canNOT stop thinking about. Mmm. I can hardly wait for when I'll have a chance to discuss it with him. Fuck society. Maybe he's thinking about that hug too!
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Post by beachguy on Oct 5, 2016 8:51:29 GMT -5
It's societal, I guess but it's more accepted for an older guy to be with a younger woman than the other way around. Being my actual age, though, and yet having a "young" outlook - in the 12-step program, my home has some hot young men and I'm considering "what would be so bad" if a particular one or two ARE interested in a cougar. It's a serious question for me (for my sobriety) because using people is no longer a practice I can engage in without suffering consequences (in the case of LoverMan, it was entirely agreed upon that we were fuck-buddies but I couldn't do that with a person in my program - it wouldn't be right for either of us). I have a huge crush on a particular masseuse who is "too young for me" but who gave me a hug last weekend that I canNOT stop thinking about. Mmm. I can hardly wait for when I'll have a chance to discuss it with him. In terms of societal acceptance I'd much rather be a cougar than a lecher!!!
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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 5, 2016 9:44:34 GMT -5
Fuck society. Maybe he's thinking about that hug too! One can hope :-) I do get a certain vibe from him and that is why I let my mind wander to the "what if he IS interested" side of things. I'm trying real hard to not get expectations without input though. If it turns out he isn't interested, I want to be able to stay supportive friends and not be "ruined by heartbreak" over it.
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Post by GeekGoddess on Oct 5, 2016 9:48:13 GMT -5
This makes me want to cry. I am a healthy 62-year old woman, and this is so far removed from where I am. I am so damn lonely, and it's a gargantuan task to get through every day. I've given up hope, and I mean that. I have a physical coming up, and I wonder what's the point? If they find something wrong with me, I won't accept treatment. I'm tired. I'm tired of going through these painful motions every day. I'm going to accept my fate, and get this over with. I've had enough, and I am so very worn out. Mentally and emotionally, I'm drained. I have nothing more to give. 25-years of hell, preceded by a horribly abusive childhood to end up like this. It's too much. Caris - I am sad to hear of your total and utter surrender on the hope of living. This makes me really sad. I am currently working on accepting me for me and going on to do & experience whatever happens (my program calls it: life on life's terms). Identifying my own concept of a higher power, and learning to rely on this spiritual arm, has helped me alot. I know you have found much help from Buddhist practices. I wish you peace & contentment even if alone & unattached. I wish you absence of suffering. The above sounds like very much suffering. Sending you good vibes as I can, sister. I hope that you will get a good report back from the physical and that something, somehow, will happen to make you glad to be alive even if you do not find external things as you wish them to be.
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